Hi,
I have a very nice home layout and have been trying to clean it up for at
least three months. I now have a deadline of April 10th, as our Lehigh
Valley S Gauger's are coming in for their Annual Secret Project month. I
also have two models hogging up my workbench for at least two months.
Hey to Ya, I trust everything went well this weekendsure would have
liked to have been there Did you get any photos? Have a super week.
gale
Hi Gale and all,
Yes, our Lehigh Valley S Gauge meeting went well. Other than the low
turnout, which seems to be happening a lot lately, we
S Scalers don't support the hobby. Duh! I've been at this a long time and I
knew that S scale modelers are on the bottom of the model railroad pile,
even in S gauge. There wouldn't even be S scale modeling at all without the
American Flyer - High Rail train people. Ask the American Models, S
Curious, is the Lehigh Valley Model a PRR roundroof or a SAL roundroof? The
two are close, but not the same which made the SAL interesting.
Unless you were totally unaware of the project, you didn't miss anything.
There were not enough preliminary reservations, the kit was never designed
much less
I have the old rubber ones, they look good, but at times will derail a
passenger car on my layout.
Frank Titman made his own. If we could get his pattern you could make the
diaphragms yourself out of a good manila paper. (Or Whatever!)
Frank was a master at making supplemental train details.
I had a rather exciting day; I rebuilt my Staging Exchange yard area. Some
years ago I built a large shelf over the S/E yard and it never was easily
accessible. Now you can see the yard and it is a easily accessible. (All of
the turnouts in the yard are manual.)
Next up is to clean and detail
Bill Lane's Container project caused quite a lot of email action over the
weekend.
All because no one was sure of where the Containers came from or did it
matter!
Well, the Containers came from Ed Loizeaux who together with Stan Furmanak,
spent a lot of time designing and then having the molds
Dear Friends,
If Bill Lane produces the Container boxes identical to Ed Loizeaux's
patterns, Ed could in turn sue for violation of patents, he legally has that
right.
However, all of this is Silly Time, for all Ed originally wanted to do was
correct how the founding of the Containers came
The T1 and the G3 are absolute works of art. I don't know how Frank Titman
did it, surely a very inventive man. And the new photo of a scene from Roger
Nulton's layout is also an art form, a great inspiration, Roger. Tom
Folks in his day Frank Titman was genius at constructing locomotives,
Fellow S Scalers ...
And just to think that I helped start all this at the Steamtown convention
in 2001.
These were to be S-Scale Yahoo list Seminars and they were just that until
I ran into family health problems.
I felt so good that Dick Karnes filled in for me thereafter, even though he
Do they put old S Gauger's out to pasture? Is that where Rollie is?
Funny that the above quote should show up today as I'm sitting on the old
front porch thinking, why am I wasting my time up here when I could be model
railroading? I read all the monthly Model railroad magazines, the Yahoo
Good morning,
Mary and I had a very nice talk with Linda Furmanak last evening.
Linda is doing fine and is very thankful that she wasn't contacted regarding
the above mentioned Container fiasco.
Once again she a stated that it was Stan's hobby, that she encouraged Stan
to participate
Bob, I have one that works on my mainline. I had a nasty little vertical
curve on an entrance to a curve that a few of my cars would not take every
time. I installed a short guard rail on the inside rail at the trouble spot
and cured the problem. I have since corrected the vertical curve, but it
My Jefferson Central has bee, with me since I started in model railroading
as an American Flyer train collector, setting up a 4x8 platform only at
Christmas time.
I was taught all this from my father who did the same with a Lionel and Marx
train sets back in the 1940's. Fortunately, he was
I find it surprising that no one has mentioned Brooks Stover's, Modeling
the BCG's Dundon Shops in Reverse, in our August 2011 NMRA magazine. This
is an excellent article on preparing a scene for Brook's Prototype Models
Certificate NMRA Achievement Program which helped Brooks become one of our
S Gauge the modelers gauge.
Many of us in S Gauge are blessed, as we can design, or see a building we
want in a magazine and then build it.
Many of our structures are hand crafted and as Dick Karnes wrote, there is
plenty of material available to do so in S gauge.
The biggest change I've seen
Hi,
My model railroading friend Rich is in desperate need of Del-Air Products,
mostly the switch controller handles [that he accidentally breaks off.]
Rich was working with someone in California but it seems they are no longer
in business.
Anyone out there want to sell their Del-Air equipment,
Many thanks to all the Del-Aire responders on this list, you have helped my
friend Rich very much. It does seem that a very common problem with the
Del-Air toggles is that they break off very easily.
Another thing became very noticeable; that is, many model railroaders now
use the Tortoise
Me??? I am going to the kitchen to fetch a beer and relax a bit. There is
no cure and I realize it. I cannot change the entire world. Call me smart!
Take care. Ed L.
Well Mr. Smart, the music continues to go around and around, or, Same-O,
Same-O! Ho Hummmnn, snort!
Folks! S gauge -Scale
I am running AM products from the earliest to the latest on Code 100
SHABBONA RR with NO problems whatsoever, and that includes their early
crossover wheelsets. Like those umpteen-zillion dollar computerized
automobiles available in 8000 exciting shades of bland, once in a while one
may need a
For shells of currently produced models, it would seem AM is the only game
in town. They even do better than Athearn in that regard. So what is the
complaint...?? Maybe we should be thanking them? Smiles ..Ed the
provocateur L.
Gee Whiz Eddie, what I have I been saying over the 25 years?
Only in S scale would you need to splice a plastic nose onto a brass
shell to get the model you want. I guess that's what makes S so charming.
Must have taken guts to saw off the front end of a brass loco!
Yeah, just like the first person to ever eat a tomato!
Man, this sure does prove
Good Grief!
Not to make fun of all this, but please tell me what 3 scale inches looks
like?
What do I use, a micrometer?
How much of your valuable time did it take to come up with all those figures
and terrific analysis?
You all havin' FUN?
I can't believe the conversation, heck, let's do a
Ottawa, Canada ...
One of the very finest NASG conventions that Mary and I ever attended was in
Ottawa in 1976.
We thought we would never get there as it is lng drive, but once in
Ottawa you found it a most beautiful city and a photographers delight.
Back then there were many very
The way it sounds, I may have the only S Scale BOBBER in our group. It was
scratch built by Frank Titman for his then Delaware and Western model
railroad many years ago. I treasure this model and it's not for sale.
Okay, someone tell us about CJSS Get-together held this past weekend.
I was
I've posted an image of Frank Titman's BOBBER.
I've had it for many a year, and upon further inspection found that Frank
not only scratch built this Bobber, he has sprung wheels on it. Most likely
built in the 1960's.
As I and many others have maintained, the man was genus in his day.
The
Which begs the question why din't he just use scale track and be done
with it? It looks like he spent enough time and resources on the
layout that the cost and effort of changing out wheelsets in the cars
would have been a non issue?..Dave Branum
Brooks has explained this many times, he
Sheldon reminded me of the members of this list! LOL
Gomer
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Years ago I converted a On30 EBT Hopper to S scale.
I still run it, but it still needs some details applied.
It is slightly wider than your standard S scale Hopper.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/photos/album/1074496686/pic/730546575/
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I posted the image in my Jefferson
You can holler, squeal, shriek, P--- and moan about Lionel going into S
Gauge, but it is the best National motivator we've had in the last 40 years.
Yes, I scale model, but Lionel can do for us what AC Gilbert did for us many
years ago, bring NEW people into S Gauge.
It's not for me, but many
This list is my daily reading Digest every morning, and quite frankly I
don't get upset at anything any one writes on this list as long as it
pertains to model railroading in S scale. This list is for S Scale modelers,
however all the names (Flyonel, American Flyer and others) mentioned are
I had another question POP to mind this morning.
What's the average age of this group?
Can we set up a survey to find out?
ThankS,
Bill FRaley
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Yipes! Something's sticking in my Craw again!
Just when I thought we were making headway in the national magazines I
received my December 2011 Model Railroader magazine and read Senior Editor,
Jim Hediger's column on Welcoming New Model Railroaders to the hobby. (The
what not's and to dos for our
Yes, the article is slanted towards the newbie and there was a lot left out
of the article. Matter of fact for what Jim is writing about, you could
possibly call it poorly written, or perhaps more kindly, short changed, a
page filler, if you will.
Regarding starter kits, we have them in S
Shades of Brooks Stover .. WOW! I noticed how smooth the train ran over the
layout, plus the terrific scenery. Is that all hand laid track? Really a
great video of one mighty fine S Scale layout.
Thank You for sharing it with us.
Bill (Fraley)
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Bob,
I've been told the same thing, simply pull the DC and install the DCC and
it'll work out okay. GULP!
I figure if I switch, I need to pull all the wiring and rewire the layout to
be safe.
What keeps me back is all my 30 some locomotives needs refitted, or should I
say most of them?
I'm
Frankly,
Honestly, I'm a Pack Rat, I don't look at myself as a collector, but I do
have an amazing amount of models on the layout, in boxes and in kits never
built, but with good honest intentions to build. After all, I've been at
this since the early sixties.
But I'm not beyond buying
Has anyone operating in DC jumped into the new MRC Tech 6 operating system?
Sounds interesting .
Bill (Fraley)
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JCRR - Reading GP 35 Project 4-5-11 (1) Jefferson Siding Idle.jpg
A new second generation Reading GP 35 idling on a siding waiting for its
assignment on the Jefferson Central Railroad mainline..
Hi,
This U tube may be somewhat digitally extreme, but it is very effective, and
may help to
I'm a big Brooks Stover fan and I've been looking at his web-site for
several weeks, now at Don's urging I ordered his BCG book.
Looking forward to reading it, but still my favorite is his BCG DVD, I
always show it to visitors, they can't believe the realism.
Thanks again,
Bill FRaley
Also, as Dick Karnes recently pointed out, NASG was created by scale
modelers not hi-railers or AF guys and I have to assume they selected the
name.
I'm one of the olde timers and I remember Claud Wade starting up the NASG
with his SSLS and how everyone who were able helped Claud make up
Hi,
Finally, I must take a turn at this location link.
I also belong to the Susquehanna S gaugers, although most likely considered
once removed. The Susquehanna S gaugers are a very active S Gauge group led
by Jim Ingram, a very prolific do it everything type of guy. Where Jim gets
all that
Ladies and Gentleman,
I've been on this list a long time and right now I feel that we are getting
way off track. (No Pun intended)
I feel it is time to reexamine ourselves and what we write on this list.
This list is intended to help one another build models and to help with our
model
One of the neatest ideas coming out of all this Kadee coupler talk is the
idea of placing a little bit of silicone in the box that holds the spring.
What a great idea, never ever thought of that and I've been at this for 50
years.
I presently use Kadee 802 and SHS coupler's on my equipment.
Stan's SMMW - Waffle box car image is now posted.
Bill
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I was there when Stan built them. Now I'm not sure about the SMMW Waffle box
cars. I know Jim and Stan worked closely with one another and I thought
these were SMMW models. But Stan did have Trainstuff kits too. He raided
my Trainstuff for kits, also for parts and decals, in trade for one of
I know that Dick Karnes, Wally Collins, and many other S Scalers place a
small tube inside the spring to stop the slack action with the Kadee
couplers. It was explained to me, but I haven't tried that idea to date.
Bill
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Talking about Mack, ask Frank Titman, he built them and even at times
modified them for the Mack Co.
Example; They were putting together a new Mack body and Frank told the
engineers the one part wouldn't fit or work. They ignored him and darned if
they couldn't complete the project because the
Mary reads the funnies [comics] in the morning paper.
Me? I read the Yahoo-groups S-Scale list every morning! Yo!
Happy New Year!
Billy Fraley
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Sorry, I just don't get it!
Other than to run a boost S scale thread on this list, what is its
purpose?
(This kind of talk has been going on for 50 years, its old stuff!)
How many scales are there in model railroading, maybe twenty?
I'm convinced that S scale is just one of the many, many
Don't know why, but I got this BRIGHT idea to go to Lionel's web-site,
then I punched in S Gauge in the search box, and was really surprised at
all the offerings in S Gauge.
http://www.lionel.com/Products/Finder/SearchResults.cfm?doAction=BrowseCate
goryID=36
No wonder there are so many
Someone mentioned Frank Titman's LVM Box Car kit.
I'm attaching Stan Furmanak's version of the LVM Round top box car.
Bill FRaley
All,
Here is really horrible news:
http://www.ky3.com/news/ky3-huge-fire-destroys-business-in-linn-creek-201201
05,0,4228890.photogallery
Hopefully, they will be able to recover.
Bill FRaley
The Pittsburgh NMRA National was one of the finest I ever attended and we
had a monstrous S Scale module network set up. I helped on the at times
unforgiving track work. LOL! To me it was very educational, as I did most
of the home layout tours and found out how a lot of the modelers got their
I had a very early Kemtron code 172 brass three pronged S track gauge and
lent it to Stan of which obviously I never got back.
Come to think of it! Hey Gale, if you have it, please send it back to me!
Pretty please!
That is the earliest track gauge that I know of.
Bill (FRaley)
I've supported the NMRA and the NASG since 1962.
I've never understood the malevolence (hateful) remarks of a few very vocal
S gaugers on the NMRA, yes, many of them who do not belong the NASG either,
those who make sarcastic notes on this list and otherwise.
At the NASG Cleveland convention
Good Grief, why don't you non-joiners donate $25.00 or $50.00 to the NASG,
just to help us along.
Everything would be free to you! That way you wouldn't be a member of
anything, but would actually be helping our S gauge cause in common.
If you were to do that, maybe we would have more money to
Pieter is right
There ain't no better convention than the South Amboy Get Together
convention held every September by the CJSS..
Attendance has fallen off in recent years, but the real S Gaugers still turn
out and a good time is had by all.
So much free food and cold drinks too!
Years ago several S Gauger modelers came to our Lehigh Valley S gaugers
meeting with the intent of joining our group. They were from the upper
central Pennsylvania area around Williamsport, Pa.
They for one reason or another decided to start and form their own club.
They did, and their club
They say history repeats itself!
Looking at all the American Flyer conversions reminds me of the old days.
When we carried tool boxes and models with us to our monthly meetings and
chopped up American Flyer, Marx and Lionel rolling stock to S scale for our
layouts.
I can still see Frank
Didn't MTH have a bag of figures? Actually very close to S size?
Yes, several years ago I bought three bags of them, mostly of what is left
are the sitting ones.
I'm sure you can still find them.
Bill (Fraley)
Reg Bilodeau was one of the hosts for the 1976 NASG Centennial Convention in
Ottawa, Canada.
Reg, had a machine shop in his basement, one would die for. He was an
excellent machinist-craftsman and he also had an excellent S scale model
railroad. I remember it well and I have at least a dozen
I refer to my Jefferson Central Railroad as a point to point operation, but
I do have a running double loop mainline incorporated in the overall layout.
That is where most of my running trains exists.
Attached is my schematic, what are your thoughts?
I also love the new S SIG and do wonder
Dear S Scale friends,
Here we go again I ask, where would we be today without American Flyer
by A.C. Gilbert? Lionel jumping on board our S gauge Band Wagon is a
wonderful opportunity for all of us to enjoy and to reap benefits now and in
the future, Then many other companies will also
I'll bet you all those HO modelers out there could give a darn about scale
prototype that way we in S Scale do.
Sure there are some just like in our gauge who are rivet counters, but the
majority are just like us, they just run the trains!
Bill
Sorry, William... but you clearly have no knowledge of what goes on in HO.
If you don't think HO modelers care about proto-typicality, then why do you
think all the detail parts companies offer so mnyt detail parts in HO? I
can't even begin to tell you how many companies there are that produce
This is another unbelievable model railroad video-story!
I was going to send this out to my close modeling friends, but decided you
all should love this video ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCTPHbjpPcsfeature=youtube_gdata_player
I lived in a 2 story/basement/full attic house from 1946 till 1958 that was
covered with the faux brick panels. as I recall they were about 1/2 inch
thick, possibly asbestos mixed with something else, similar in composition
to ceiling tile.
Dear Friends, The asbestos panels were what made
John Long (Deceased) had a beautiful three locomotive set of converted
American Flyer PA locomotives.
Also converted to minute detail all the passenger cars and all ran well.
I might have images of them in my files, I'll have to look.
Main thing; I wonder what ever happened to John's
Hi! Yelp!
Just received in my mail today a large glassine envelope containing a FREE
O GAUGE RAIL-ROADING [April-May 2012] magazine, plus a smaller magazine
containing, Ameri -Towne -KITS-VIDEOS- TOOLS - BOOKS. (a supplement to O
Gauge Railroading magazine.)
Now folks this is what our
Hey take a peak!
This is very fine model railroad magazine regardless of the scale (Gauge)
It looks even better than the present Model Railroader magazine.
Sorry to say I haven't had the time to digest it, but leafing through this
magazine, it looks pretty good with lots of advertisements
Heck, and all the time I thought they were little Gremlins messing up my
track, especially when I had visitors.
I finally went to a train show this morning. It was sponsored by the
Pennsylvania Railroad Technical Historical Society http://www.prrths.com/
and was held in Steelton., Pa. I was
Jace and all,
I bought my Omnicom RDC-3 of which the Reading Railroad only had one, last
December from Jeff Wilson, Hoquat Hobbies.
I'm very pleased, but must tell all that you have to finish off the car with
windows and any interior improvements you desire to have.
Fellow modeler Bert Mahr,
Does anyone have a date that Omnicom first produced their RDC's?
Bill
Received my packet of brochures (Vol. # 1 No. 1 January 2012) in yesterdays
mail.
When I read the Who is Who around here statement on the back of the
brochure, I'm really impressed at this first effort to trying to get
national attention for pure S Scale.
I intend to send out these
I'm going out on the limb here, but several weeks ago it was written on this
list that John Martin had passed on. I wrote to the sender and sent an image
along asking if I had the right John Martin, never received a reply.
So... being the kind of guy I am. I want to write that John Martin
Brooks Stover has a very nice article in this issue named Looking Back and
Looking Ahead 50 years of S .
Most interesting is Brooks excellent photography of his BCG with two BO
Geeps on the front page. Brooks also explains why his Code 148 track
situation. Quite honestly, I don't find the
All my recent paint projects have been through Scalecoat Model paints by
www.Weavermodels.com.
They have Scale Coat I for Brass, Metal and Wood - Scalecoat II for plastic.
I use a Paasche Air brush and at times (what Bill, calls) a Rattle can.
An example can be found in this month's issue of
I bought at least three bags of those S sale people several years ago.
The standing ones are very nice as are the sitting ones.
Unfortunately there are more sitting ones in the bag than standing people.
But, the sitting ones make very nice passengers in your passenger cars.
Several months
FNF
I've been working on populating my RDC3.
I made my own window silhouettes, and must admit they look pretty neat
behind the green tinted windows.
I'm also in the process of painting two engineers for the front and rear
cabs.
My big scare is when the model is completed, should I
As most know the Jefferson Central/Reading Company model railroad is old and
runs on DC with many blocks. I would love to cut out all the wiring and
reinstall new for DCC. But I have at least 30 some locomotives and that
makes it a challenge at my age.
So, like Bob (Nicholson), I run my
I'm presently working on my Omnicom Reading Company RDC-3 and as I always
do, I love to research my projects.
I knew that the Reading Northern Railroad in Port Clinton, Pa, had all the
Reading RDC cars as they're listed on their web-site. So, Mary and I drove
up there (Pottsville, Pa.) last
MTH acquires S-Helper Service.
Okay, but now what is American Models going to do?
Bill (Fraley)
Sorry Bill, I have fairly large layout and it still runs on DC with the help
of many electrical blocks.
Matter of fact the Jefferson Central operates off of two DC power packs,
allowing up to 4 modelers to run trains at one time.
Problem is when I go under there to resolve a problem, it
Anyone interested in moving one of these locomotives (S Helper Service
2-8-0 Scale - DC) to a new home should contact me.
Thanks,
Bill Fraley
Anyone interested in moving one of these locomotives (S Helper Service
2-8-0 Scale - DC) to a new home should contact me.
Thanks, Bill Fraley
I'm sorry, I should have made this request clearer, I want to purchase this
locomotive for my model railroad.
Bill (Fraley)
Hi,
I've been working on my REX locomotives [back Shopping] and wondered,
whatever happened to Putt Trains?
Bill (Fraley)
What I don't understand about model railroading is the expectation of
Flawless Operation.
Any modeler who has a model railroad has hang-ups somewhere in the
operation; I don't care if it is in HO, S or in any scale. I will admit that
the most trouble free model railroads that I myself have
NS OCS Palmyra 6-11-2012.mov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPm7tDuebhgfeature=em-share_video_user
What a Rail- Fans delight!
Running the old Reading Mainline through Palmyra - Hershey, Pa. yesterday!
Friends, Tom Ann Ebersbach own and operate a Lionel Shop in that station.
Want a
To all my dear friends out there in the model railroad world.
The thought I tried to make is that each one of us who model railroad,
model railroad to our fullest self. The Peter Principle points out that in
life we all continue to try to achieve our best until we finally reach the
top, that
I've been writing model railroad articles for 60 years, starting with Frank
Titman's S Gauge Herald.
I am an accredited NMRA Author and have my Achievement Certificate stating
such.
I have a myriad of files on the articles I have written, the ones I wanted
to write and haven't gotten there
Well from the replies [on and off list] from my friends, I sure wrote a
laugher that time!
Age 90? Good Grief John, do you mean I can look forward to seven more years
of this harassment?
Ha! LOL!
Snort, gurgle and burp!
Billy Fraley
This week was a Monster!
Monday, I had my left eye cataract removed, - The Awning people came to
repair our Awnings that got caught in the Storms everyone has read about and
the Dryer repairman came to fix our dryer that went bad. (We Replaced the
Dryer today) Also, because of the storms our
My model railroad runs the length of my basement and I can reach most of it
very easily, except when it enters the train room, there I have to have two
Duck Unders or Duck-Ups and this makes it very difficult for me to get to
now-a-days when something goes wrong over there.
In earlier days I
Going through a bunch of folders trying to find a schematic of the model I'm
working on and found many interesting things that will cause me to take days
to read through.
(1) I found this MONON Catalog dated 7-1-1991 Catalog # 27 full of S scale
structure and detail offerings..
Please note
The more I read on this marvelous list, the more I realize what great
modelers we have out there among us.
Just taking a look at Bill Lanes Hopper project and what he has done with it
staggers ones imagination.
http://www.lanestrains.com/Open%20Hoppers_Photos/NYC_Panelside_Hopper.jpg
Gosh ... I've been in S scale since 1962 and find that now-a-days I can buy
whatever want.
So much is available, and I have so much more in boxes, that I may never get
to build and run them on my layout.
Layout! Amazingly, I haven't run anything for a week or two and this morning
I fired up
Chicks Hobbies
Bill, your right Chicks is the land that S Scale forgot!
Whenever our DVSG-LVSG club went down that way, we always visited Chicks
Hobbies and we bought loads of S stuff. Yes, his shop looks junky but you
go there and see it and I guarantee you'll buy something, because
Lately after reading the list, I find that perhaps a model railroader has to
have a degree in electronics, especially those with DCC.
Many of the responders to that type question really does possess a degree in
electrical engineering.
I would imagine that is a good thing for all of us, otherwise
Jamie.jpgJamie
Our famous Jamie Bothwell?
Anyone to ever really figure this guy out would have to have a masters
physiology!
Anyway, regardless, he is all ours! GULP!
Sent with love and Hershey Kisses,
Bill (Fraley)
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