Is there no way to have users of the wiki add their universities
themselves? I've seen collaborative maps elsewhere.
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On Nov 23, 9:33 am, Pablo Angulo pablo.ang...@uam.es wrote:
Is there no way to have users of the wiki add their universities
themselves? I've seen collaborative maps elsewhere.
Well, what do you mean by users of the wiki. Nearly all of the entries
on that wiki page are by me. I found them by
Good morning sage-devel,
This from a user I don't think we were previously aware of: I was
planning to begin conversion of my Mathematica materials to Sage over
the holiday break, so your workshop comes at an opportune time.
I'll also point out heavy interest and lots of support from the
Florent Hivert wrote:
Hi there,
Regarding deprecation, we already hashed this out in a previous thread
quite some time ago.
* Use the official deprecation(...) function when deprecating a function.
* We can tell precisely what is deprecated and when by simply
looking at the
From the proposal
... and which has sophisti-
cated interfaces to nearly all other mathematics software, including
Mathematica, Maple,
MATLAB and Magma. ...
Maxima just gets no respect. :)
Most of the facilities mentioned are already in Maxima.
And why is Cython much more than a Python to C
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:28 AM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
From the proposal
... and which has sophisti-
cated interfaces to nearly all other mathematics software, including
Mathematica, Maple,
MATLAB and Magma. ...
Maxima just gets no respect. :)
Most of the facilities mentioned are
On Nov 23, 4:38 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:28 AM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
From the proposal
... and which has sophisti-
cated interfaces to nearly all other mathematics software, including
Mathematica, Maple,
MATLAB and Magma. ...
Maxima
Hi Jason
Speaking about deprecation, I posted a patch #7515 which does two things:
1 - Add an option called ``version`` do deprecation where you can put the
information on since which version of sage this thing was deprecated:
sage: def bar():
...
Speaking about deprecation, I posted a patch #7515 which does two things:
1 - Add an option called ``version`` do deprecation where you can put the
information on since which version of sage this thing was deprecated:
sage: def bar():
...
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
On Nov 23, 4:38 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:28 AM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
From the proposal
... and which has sophisti-
cated interfaces to nearly all other mathematics
On Nov 23, 8:28 am, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
From the proposal
[snip]
And why is Cython much more than a Python to C translator? (This is
not sarcasm. I honestly have no idea that it was more.
I thought it was, if anything, less.)
Look at the section on Cython and Numerical Computation
On Nov 23, 9:55 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
Sage provides the capabilities of a wide range of open source
mathematical and non-mathematical software, such as GAP, JMol, Maxima,
Numpy, Pari/GP, R,
rjf wrote:
From the proposal
and which has sophisti-
cated interfaces to nearly all other mathematics software, including
Mathematica, Maple,
MATLAB and Magma. ...
Maxima just gets no respect. :)
Most of the facilities mentioned are already in Maxima.
[...]
You are so
You are so funny. You remind me of the sour old men in the public of
the Muppet show. Complaining all the time, but not looking what's
really happening.
Statler and Waldorf.
Also, unless we predict the immediate demise of Sage's integration,
(hopefully soon) summation (review this please!),
Hi William!
On 23 Nov., 18:55, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Maxima started in the 1960s, whereas Singular, Pari, GAP are from the
1990s, right? Venerable = accorded a great deal of respect, esp.
because of age
My impression was that the word venerable (used *twice* in the
Minh,
The patch may have been merged into sage-4.1.2.
But it is NOT in sage-4.2.1.
Just do (in sage-4.2.1) ./sage -sh.
I expect to see (at the end)
*
/home/mariah/sage/sage-4.2.1-x86_64-Linux-core2-fc
sage subshell$
*
Yet what I see is just
*
Bypassing shell configuration files
On Nov 23, 11:56 am, Mariah mariah.le...@gmail.com wrote:
Minh,
The patch may have been merged into sage-4.1.2.
But it is NOT in sage-4.2.1.
Just do (in sage-4.2.1) ./sage -sh.
I expect to see (at the end)
*
/home/mariah/sage/sage-4.2.1-x86_64-Linux-core2-fc
sage subshell$
*
On Nov 23, 11:18 am, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
Hi William!
On 23 Nov., 18:55, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Maxima started in the 1960s, whereas Singular, Pari, GAP are from the
1990s, right? Venerable = accorded a great deal of respect, esp.
because of
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, John H Palmieri
jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 23, 11:18 am, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote:
Hi William!
On 23 Nov., 18:55, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Maxima started in the 1960s, whereas Singular, Pari, GAP are from the
Of course, when writing code, we have no idea what date the next
release
would be, and sometimes are mistaken about the release that the patch
will be included in as well. How should we take care of this
patch-updating problem?
I've been lazy to raise this problem on the lists.
On Nov 23, 8:38 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:28 AM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
From the proposal
... and which has sophisti-
cated interfaces to nearly all other mathematics software, including
Mathematica, Maple,
MATLAB and Magma. ...
Definition of venerable:
1. Commanding respect by virtue of age, dignity, character, or
position.
2. Worthy of reverence, especially by religious or historical
association.
For the non-native English speakers (and maybe others) in the group,
it may be useful to point out that
labeling
Florent Hivert wrote:
Of course, when writing code, we have no idea what date the next
release
would be, and sometimes are mistaken about the release that the patch
will be included in as well. How should we take care of this
patch-updating problem?
I've been lazy to raise this problem on
On Nov 23, 3:30 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. In fact, I hope in the proposal to not insult or snub
non-free commercial software either.
But William, just two days ago on sage-support you wrote:
Let's put Mathworks out of business.
mark mcclure wrote:
On Nov 23, 3:30 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. In fact, I hope in the proposal to not insult or snub
non-free commercial software either.
But William, just two days ago on sage-support you wrote:
Let's put Mathworks out of business.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:04:25PM -0800, rjf wrote:
Actually, while Maxima includes library access to Fortran methods, it
is far inferior to what could be done in numeric integration,
as demonstrated by recent Mathematica versions. You would hardly get a
hint that 75% of the
mark mcclure wrote:
On Nov 23, 3:30 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. In fact, I hope in the proposal to not insult or snub
non-free commercial software either.
But William, just two days ago on sage-support you wrote:
Let's put Mathworks out of business.
Jaap Spies wrote:
mark mcclure wrote:
On Nov 23, 3:30 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. In fact, I hope in the proposal to not insult or snub
non-free commercial software either.
But William, just two days ago on sage-support you wrote:
Let's put
Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl writes:
mark mcclure wrote:
On Nov 23, 3:30 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. In fact, I hope in the proposal to not insult or snub
non-free commercial software either.
But William, just two days ago on sage-support you wrote:
Let's put
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:04 PM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
That's helpful. Forgive me for asking for information. I see,
somewhat later, that this has to do with adding type declarations.
Just the ticket. To me is suggests that Python is inappropriate for
numerical work -- for which C is
It's time for this thread to move to sage-flame. Please no more
messages on sage-devel.
Nick
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Martin Rubey wrote:
Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl writes:
mark mcclure wrote:
On Nov 23, 3:30 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. In fact, I hope in the proposal to not insult or snub
non-free commercial software either.
But William, just two days ago on sage-support
On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Jason Grout wrote:
Florent Hivert wrote:
Of course, when writing code, we have no idea what date the next
release
would be, and sometimes are mistaken about the release that the
patch
will be included in as well. How should we take care of this
On Nov 23, 2009, at 12:05 PM, John H Palmieri wrote:
On Nov 23, 11:56 am, Mariah mariah.le...@gmail.com wrote:
Minh,
The patch may have been merged into sage-4.1.2.
But it is NOT in sage-4.2.1.
Just do (in sage-4.2.1) ./sage -sh.
I expect to see (at the end)
*
On Nov 23, 4:56 pm, Martin Rubey martin.ru...@math.uni-hannover.de
wrote:
Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl writes:
Ever heard of the word humor? Even without a smiley this is possible in
a message.
I, as a german speaking, can see no humor in that post you link to.
I guess I didn't either.
Here are some statistics for the Sage website. Oct and Nov are
probably the best months for the Sage website.
These numbers are for 2009, oct 23rd to nov 22nd.
Visits:
89,495 Visits (session of several pageviews)
253,716 Pageviews
6,271 (tracked) downloads
By Country 1%:
1. United States
Harald Schilly wrote:
Here are some statistics for the Sage website. Oct and Nov are
probably the best months for the Sage website.
These numbers are for 2009, oct 23rd to nov 22nd.
Nice! Thank you for doing this.
Jaap
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On Nov 23, 1:33 pm, Alex Ghitza aghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:04:25PM -0800, rjf wrote:
Actually, while Maxima includes library access to Fortran methods, it
is far inferior to what could be done in numeric integration,
as demonstrated by recent Mathematica
On Nov 23, 2:20 pm, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder how many silent users there are out there...
My latest entry (from yesterday) on the testimonial page:
Sage brought me back to using linux, perhaps permanently this time.
I only use windows for games these days. I actually haven't
On Nov 24, 12:07 am, Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl wrote:
Nice! Thank you for doing this.
No problem, stats were long overdue ... if there are any specific
questions about a country, some additional numbers or data like which
IE browser is used most often? ... just ask me ;)
One thing I didn't
Is the topic of how should a Sage proposal be written so that it is
funded by NSF really something to be relegated to sage-flame?
I don't know how many other readers here have (repeatedly) served as
NSF reviewers or panelists evaluating proposals.
Based on my contributions to the writing of this
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:22 PM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the topic of how should a Sage proposal be written so that it is
funded by NSF really something to be relegated to sage-flame?
I don't know how many other readers here have (repeatedly) served as
NSF reviewers or panelists
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:04 PM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
venerable Maxima is mentioned once, suggesting that the only thing
it can do is symbolic integration and numeric integration.
Actually, while Maxima includes library access to Fortran methods, it
is far inferior to what could be
On Nov 23, 3:49 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:04 PM,rjffate...@gmail.com wrote:
venerable Maxima is mentioned once, suggesting that the only thing
it can do is symbolic integration and numeric integration.
Actually, while Maxima includes library
Hi All!
On 24 Nov., 01:15, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
It may be worthwhile pondering Tim's comment...
NSF will not fund software development that competes with
existing commercial software.
Indeed, that's irritating. What exactly does NSF mean?
Do they mean (1) no fund for
It may be worthwhile pondering Tim's comment...
NSF will not fund software development that competes with
existing commercial software.
Indeed, that's irritating. What exactly does NSF mean?
Do they mean (1) no fund for software that competes economically with
existing commercial
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:15 PM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 23, 3:49 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:04 PM,rjffate...@gmail.com wrote:
venerable Maxima is mentioned once, suggesting that the only thing
it can do is symbolic integration and
I thought that Mark McClure's post on another thread raised some
interesting issues, and that it was worth responding to, but it was so
tangential that it deserves a seperate thread:
But William, just two days ago on sage-support you wrote:
Let's put Mathworks out of business.
Is there a plan for what happens if funding is not approved?
Do the servers continue? Are the students reassigned?
Do the Sage days continue? Does the code move to
sourceforge or github? Does this become a free-time only,
non-academic activity? Once Sage becomes a non-academic
free and open
mhampton wrote:
I thought that Mark McClure's post on another thread raised some
interesting issues, and that it was worth responding to, but it was so
tangential that it deserves a seperate thread:
But William, just two days ago on sage-support you wrote:
Let's put Mathworks out of
Hi Tim,
Thanks for airing your concerns and worries.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Tim Daly d...@axiom-developer.org wrote:
Is there a plan for what happens if funding is not approved?
Yes.
Do the servers continue?
I'm not asking for funding for servers.The actual hardware is
owned
Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net writes:
I find it hard to believe Sage will not have a negative impact on the
sales of Mathematica, but I certainly hope Sage does not put Wolfram
Research out of business. I very much doubt it will either.
I am with your hope (how to say this
On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Tim Daly wrote:
Is there a plan for what happens if funding is not approved?
Do the servers continue?
Yes.
Are the students reassigned?
There aren't any students being funded by unconfirmed funding, and the
grant isn't about funding students either.
Do the
OSX 10.6.2 on Intel with Xcode 3.21:
--
The following tests failed:
sage -t devel/sage/doc/en/a_tour_of_sage/index.rst
sage -t devel/sage/doc/en/bordeaux_2008/introduction.rst
sage -t
For what it's worth,
this is from Sage-4.3.alpha0 (when I do ./sage -sh):
snip
Starting subshell with Sage environment variables set.
Be sure to exit when you are done and do not do anything
with other copies of Sage!
Bypassing shell configuration files ...
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