I would expect significant pushback from the Gentoo people
on the issue of including other projects inside Sage. GCL
packaged gmp4 (now fixed) and their response was that this
should not be part of GCL. I'm not sure if independently
available projects (e.g. ECL, Maxima, etc) would fit the
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:01 PM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding fortran, for a Microsoft Visual C++ version of Sage, I
will just get rid of Fortran (and Lisp) entirely, and not bother with
building anything currently in Sage that depends on them...
My thoughts about
On 10/28/10 06:37 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
Hi David,
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
The fact Sage does not reliably respect the CC and CXX variables is a pain
if you want to use a non-GNU compiler, but I just found it causes problems
on openSUSE
On 2010-10-28 09:17, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
There are so many things weird about the Sage build process.
Unfortunately, that's very true. I guess the problem is that you have
so many different packages all with their own Makefile system.
Jeroen.
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On 10/26/10 08:32 PM, William Stein wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, leifnot.rea...@online.de wrote:
On 26 Okt., 19:36, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding fortran, for a Microsoft Visual C++ version of Sage, I
will just get rid of Fortran (and Lisp) entirely, and not
On 10/28/10 06:37 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
f2c
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7027
This to me looks like the upstream source code has been modified. SPKG.txt
says The one change is to use cc instead of gcc in the makefiles. I
think the comment is round the other way, and they have
Hi William,
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 06:44:21PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
When I started Sage I viewed it as a distribution of a bunch of math
software, and Python as just the interpreter language I happen to use
at the time. I didn't even know if using Python as the language would
On 27 Okt., 20:36, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
I've created an updated readline package to attempt to get a better solution
(less of a hack), to the issues on openSUSE 11.2, 11.3 and Arch Linux.
http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/patches/readline-6.1.spkg
On Oct 27, 8:36 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net
wrote:
I've created an updated readline package to attempt to get a better solution
(less of a hack), to the issues on openSUSE 11.2, 11.3 and Arch Linux.
http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/patches/readline-6.1.spkg
On 27 Okt., 09:56, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote:
On 2010-10-27 09:36, Robert Bradshaw wrote: The larger problem with the
current system is not that it's hard to
comment on a single line, but it's way to much work to *fix* a single
line.
I would say it's mainly way too
Dear William, dear all,
(I am CC'ing Sage-Combinat which may be interested by this thread on
sage-devel)
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 06:44:21PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
(3) Have other Python libraries (like psage:
http://code.google.com/p/purplesage/source/browse/), which depend on
On 10/27/10 08:38 PM, François Bissey wrote:
I should pipe in since we are talking about that.
Generally speaking sage should work on a reasonably up to date stable
Gentoo system. However it would be a good thing to point user to
sage-on-gentoo as it is aimed at properly integrating to
Making every 3rd party author adhere to the standard usage of CC/CXX
is a bit like herding cats. It would be the cleanest fix to patch all
the different build systems, sure. But wouldn't it be easier if Sage
would set up its own gcc wrapper in $SAGE_LOCAL/bin? The first step of
the Sage build
On 2010-10-28 11:31, Volker Braun wrote:
Making every 3rd party author adhere to the standard usage of CC/CXX
is a bit like herding cats. It would be the cleanest fix to patch all
the different build systems, sure. But wouldn't it be easier if Sage
would set up its own gcc wrapper in
I forget to add few more equations to system ie. {x^4-x,y^4-y,z^4-z}
in reason to have solution in GF(4) and zero dimensional ideal, so I
answered my question.
But, I have another issue.
When I use quotient ring Q, J.groebner_basis() does not return
completely reduced basis.
Also, with quotient
Unless I'm mistaken, someone has attached loads of file to the Wiki. See for
example the attachments on the AIX page
http://wiki.sagemath.org/AIX
See the Recent Changes page too.
http://wiki.sagemath.org/RecentChanges
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On Oct 28, 11:18 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net
wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken, someone has attached loads of file to the Wiki. See for
example the attachments on the AIX page
http://wiki.sagemath.org/AIX
See the
On Oct 28, 11:57 am, DuleOrlovic duleorlo...@gmail.com wrote:
I forget to add few more equations to system ie. {x^4-x,y^4-y,z^4-z}
in reason to have solution in GF(4) and zero dimensional ideal, so I
answered my question.
But, I have another issue.
When I use quotient ring Q,
While fixing the bug at #10096 by editing
sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/sha_tate.py, I noticed that there were
several doctests tagged # long.
Doctests can be tagged #long time to get ignored unless -long is
specified when testing. But tagging tests just #long does NOT have
this effect!
My
Hi John,
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:07 PM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
Worth a ticket?
I think so. But perhaps I think there should be at least two separate
tickets. One ticket for fixing the long doctesting issue in exactly
one file in the Sage library. Ideally that file should
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:07 PM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
Worth a ticket?
I think so. But perhaps I think there should be at least two separate
tickets. One ticket for fixing the long
Hi John,
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know which should be the one file to single out though!
Of all the candidate files you listed above, I think plot/plot.py is
the best candidate for isolation within a single ticket, even though
that
OK, I'll make two tickets accordingly (cross-referencing eachother).
John
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know which should be the one file to single out
See #10182, #10183.
John
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:21 PM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, I'll make two tickets accordingly (cross-referencing eachother).
John
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:13
In that case, since it's compiling a C++ file, the variable should be called
CXX, so changing to
$(CXX) $(CFLAGS) -c cubex.cpp
and removing the line
CC=g++
makes it use Sage's variable.
It doesn't change much to the problem, but instead of removing the
line
CC = g++
I think you could
On Oct 28, 4:20 am, luisfe lftab...@yahoo.es wrote:
Computing with generic quotient rings I am afraid that will be slow
and that will yield to various errors. Specially as in this case,
where the ideal is not prime (you are looking for solutions in GF(4)).
Doesn't GF(4) construct a field with
On Oct 28, 5:25 pm, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 28, 4:20 am, luisfe lftab...@yahoo.es wrote:
Computing with generic quotient rings I am afraid that will be slow
and that will yield to various errors. Specially as in this case,
where the ideal is not prime (you are
Florent, Thanks for pointing that out. There are a few semirings
which I'd like to see in there:
1) Boolean semiring: where '+' is 'or' and '*' is and
2) Tropical semiring: if R is an ordered abelian group then there is a
semiring whose elements are R union {Infinity}, and '+' is min, '*' is
On 28 Oct, 08:17, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
On 10/28/10 06:37 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
Hi David,
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
The fact Sage does not reliably respect the CC and CXX variables is a pain
(The following is a *spoof* of something I just got from the Director
of computing at UW. I replaced the name of some famous math software
with Sage. See if you can guess which.)
Sage users-
Documented use of Sage on computers not authorized under our contract
with Stein has caused them to
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:36 AM, leif not.rea...@online.de wrote:
On 27 Okt., 09:56, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote:
On 2010-10-27 09:36, Robert Bradshaw wrote: The larger problem with the
current system is not that it's hard to
comment on a single line, but it's way to much
(The following is a *spoof* of something I just got from the Director
of computing at UW. I replaced the name of some famous math software
with Sage. See if you can guess which.)
Sage users-
Documented use of Sage on computers not authorized under our contract
with Stein has caused
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:35 PM, François Bissey
f.r.bis...@massey.ac.nz wrote:
(The following is a *spoof* of something I just got from the Director
of computing at UW. I replaced the name of some famous math software
with Sage. See if you can guess which.)
Sage users-
Documented use
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:36 AM, leif not.rea...@online.de wrote:
On 27 Okt., 09:56, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote:
On 2010-10-27 09:36, Robert Bradshaw wrote: The larger problem with the
current system is
Hi Sage Devel (and Bug Days) lists:
Sage Days 27 will be Jan 7-13, 2011 (almost certainly in Seattle)w,
and the theme will be Fixing Bugs in Sage!
The wiki page is here: http://wiki.sagemath.org/days27
So far 11 people have expressed a strong interest in coming. If you
are a good at
On Oct 28, 3:56 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Sage Devel (and Bug Days) lists:
Sage Days 27 will be Jan 7-13, 2011 (almost certainly in Seattle)w,
Joint Mathematics Meetings are January 6-9, 2011. I see a mention of
this on the wiki as well; maybe it would be worth reminding
My favorite part is the non-spoofy thing that happens at this spoofy
site:
Faculty and Staff of the UW Seattle campus may connect
tohttp://sagemath.org/homeuse/to request a Sage license for their
404 Error: page not found
as it should be :)
- kcrisman
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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 28, 3:56 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Sage Devel (and Bug Days) lists:
Sage Days 27 will be Jan 7-13, 2011 (almost certainly in Seattle)w,
Joint Mathematics Meetings are January 6-9, 2011. I see a
On 10/28/10 02:34 PM, Alexandre Blondin Massé wrote:
In that case, since it's compiling a C++ file, the variable should be called
CXX, so changing to
$(CXX) $(CFLAGS) -c cubex.cpp
and removing the line
CC=g++
makes it use Sage's variable.
It doesn't change much to the problem, but instead
Thanks for comments.
Apologizing for misplaced mailing list.
BYE
On Oct 28, 5:37 pm, luisfe lftab...@yahoo.es wrote:
On Oct 28, 5:25 pm, Roman Pearce rpear...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 28, 4:20 am, luisfe lftab...@yahoo.es wrote:
Computing with generic quotient rings I am afraid that will
Hi David:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 04:51:39AM +0100, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
The fact Sage does not reliably respect the CC and CXX variables is
a pain if you want to use a non-GNU compiler, but I just found it
causes problems on openSUSE too. There g++ installs as
/usr/bin/g++-4.5, not as
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 09:05:39AM -0700, VictorMiller wrote:
Florent, Thanks for pointing that out. There are a few semirings
which I'd like to see in there:
1) Boolean semiring: where '+' is 'or' and '*' is and
+1 at least to this one: if you look at
Hi Florent,
Maybe you could give Victor some pointers to what Éric Laugerotte had
implemented in MuPAD-Combinat.
Cheers,
Nicolas
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:41:34PM +0200, Florent hivert wrote:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 09:05:39AM -0700,
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 at 11:18AM +0100, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken, someone has attached loads of file to the Wiki.
See for example the attachments on the AIX page
http://wiki.sagemath.org/AIX
See the Recent Changes page too.
http://wiki.sagemath.org/RecentChanges
I
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 at 02:00PM -0700, kcrisman wrote:
On Oct 28, 3:56 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Sage Devel (and Bug Days) lists:
Sage Days 27 will be Jan 7-13, 2011 (almost certainly in Seattle)w,
Joint Mathematics Meetings are January 6-9, 2011. I see a mention of
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 at 12:31PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Our Sage contract with Stein only covers computers owned by University
of Washington Seattle. Any other installations must be removed.
Faculty and Staff of the UW Seattle campus may connect to
http://sagemath.org/homeuse/ to request
On 10/28/10 6:33 PM, Dan Drake wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 at 12:31PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Our Sage contract with Stein only covers computers owned by University
of Washington Seattle. Any other installations must be removed.
Faculty and Staff of the UW Seattle campus may connect to
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
On 10/28/10 6:33 PM, Dan Drake wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 at 12:31PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Our Sage contract with Stein only covers computers owned by University
of Washington Seattle. Any other
Can you (and anyone else reading this who wants to volunteer) add
yourself to:
http://wiki.sagemath.org/jmms2011
?
Thanks,
Marshall
On Oct 28, 6:27 pm, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 at 02:00PM -0700, kcrisman wrote:
On Oct 28, 3:56 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com
On 10/29/10 12:33 AM, Dan Drake wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 at 12:31PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Our Sage contract with Stein only covers computers owned by University
of Washington Seattle. Any other installations must be removed.
Faculty and Staff of the UW Seattle campus may connect to
On 10/28/10 10:20 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
On 10/29/10 12:33 AM, Dan Drake wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 at 12:31PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Our Sage contract with Stein only covers computers owned by University
of Washington Seattle. Any other installations must be removed.
Faculty and
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:54 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I just spent the day working on code with some people, and using
http://code.google.com with multiple cloned repositories and their
code review
On 10/29/10 04:34 AM, Jason Grout wrote:
On 10/28/10 10:20 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
On 10/29/10 12:33 AM, Dan Drake wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 at 12:31PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Our Sage contract with Stein only covers computers owned by University
of Washington Seattle. Any other
Hi David,
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
If you want to put students off of using Mathematica, I can suggest a very
simple way. Suggest they look on job sites like phdjobs, monstir.com, and
search for the number of jobs requiring Mathematica
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:08, Marshall Hampton wrote:
Can you (and anyone else reading this who wants to volunteer) add
yourself to: http://wiki.sagemath.org/jmms2011
Speaking of the Joint Meetings, does anyone need a roommate? Send me an
email if you're interested; I plan to be there for the
Apparently the version of ECL in Sage will not build on Fedora 14 which is
coming out on the 2nd November.
I created a trac ticket for this.
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10185
Note however that the latest ECL is 10.4.1, which apparently does build on
Fedora 14, since a package I
On 2010-Oct-28 02:31:19 -0700, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote:
Making every 3rd party author adhere to the standard usage of CC/CXX
is a bit like herding cats. It would be the cleanest fix to patch all
the different build systems, sure. But wouldn't it be easier if Sage
would set up its
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