I don't think it's a bad idea to make something partly commercial.
From the moral point of view I may cite Richard Stallmann (
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html ):
Many people believe that the spirit of the GNU Project is that you should
not charge money for distributing copies of
Yo !
Seems like some people forget that, you have to play the game in order to
be successful.
On the other hand, some people think that they need to play some kind of
game. Who is the craziest ?
The game could broadly be described as: navigating the framework of
society. That framework
As far as i understand, the current plan is to spend the money made by SMC
(if it makes money, some day) to improve Sage (for example, to hire paid
programmers that would work into the windows port). So, if things don't
deviate from that plan, the gain of SMC would also turn into a gain for
Seems like some people forget that, you have to play the game in order to
be successful. The game could broadly be described as: navigating the
framework of society. That framework whether you like it or not, is and
likely will continue to be composed largely of money.
The game consists for
While the subject line is somewhat inflammatory, I respectfully
disagree that civil discussion about Sage's relationship to other
software projects, especially one so tightly coupled with Sage,
belongs entirely on sage-flame.
+1
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About William's blog post (*): even though I don't like you do much (but I
don't like what a lot of persons do, so apparently there is nothing wrong
in that), I was wondering about your plans. If you ever end up earning
money with this for-profit company you have in mind, who would you hire to
None of these arguments make any sense. If you want to run a local server
with sage, you are very welcome to use the sage notebook that is
distributed with sage itself. Also, this thread should definitely not be in
sage-devel.
On Monday, August 18, 2014 7:45:36 AM UTC+8, Dr. David Kirkby
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:24:32AM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
We had this in the form of the original sage notebook for years. Yes,
it had its problems, but universities didn't step up to fix them (or
replace it with something better). Few others than William hosted such
servers of
While the subject line is somewhat inflammatory, I respectfully
disagree that civil discussion about Sage's relationship to other
software projects, especially one so tightly coupled with Sage,
belongs entirely on sage-flame. (Yes, debating the morality/legality
of it belongs there, but
Wow, this ended up much less flame-like than I had anticipated - yeah!
barrier to Sage. I am not necessarily convinced that some of this
energy would not be better used in different approaches. But since
they do the work, they get to choose whichever strategy they believe
This is
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:40 PM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote:
I heard there was conversion sws - sagews, but I don't think there was any
the other way.
Until there is a better solution, you can open up a terminal and do
something like $ zip -r takeout.zip * and download the takeout.zip
http://sagemath.blogspot.com/2014/08/what-is-sagemathcloud-lets-clear-some.html
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Sorry for the delay, had a quarrel with myself about it.
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Thierry
sage-googlesu...@lma.metelu.net wrote:
What's the spirit of the Sage project? It's mission statement?
The mission statement is about a free open source alternative, which SMC
is not.
True, SMC's
I think the whole closed source nature is likely to restrict the takeup of
Sage for several broad groups of people when they realise that to get high
performance they are going to need to store sensitive material on a Linux
server they don't control.
As a 50 year old engineer I have worked at
I agree with Harald that this discussion belongs on the sage-flame mailing list:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sage-flame
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave
Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote:
I think the whole closed source nature is
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Thierry
sage-googlesu...@lma.metelu.net wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 08:52:03AM -0700, Harald Schilly wrote:
This should be moved to sage-flame.
On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:42:14 AM UTC+2, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby
Microwave Ltd) wrote:
If not
As I understand it, the SageMathCloud is closed source. Yet it is
making extensive use of open-source code. Maybe the closed source bits
don't link to the open-source bits, though I find it a bit hard to
believe. If it did not link, it would not that be against the GPL? Or
I guess if
On 2014-08-15, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote:
As I understand it, the SageMathCloud is closed source. Yet it is
making extensive use of open-source code. Maybe the closed source bits
don't link to the open-source bits, though I find it a bit hard
IANAL, but my understanding is that the licensing of the code that William
wrote for the servers that run SMC would only be relevant if the code is
distributed.
That is, the license of a software is an agreement that happens in the
moment of the distribution. The license stablishes the
This should be moved to sage-flame.
On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:42:14 AM UTC+2, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby
Microwave Ltd) wrote:
If not against the GPL, this certainly seems to be going against the
*spirit* of the Sage project.
What's the spirit of the Sage project? It's mission
Since you mention looking on Wikipedia for more info on SageMathCloud, just
thought id let you know that William writes about SageMathCloud on his Sage
blog at: http://sagemath.blogspot.com/ , in case you hadn’t come across it.
As it has a lot of information about SMC.
On Friday, August 15,
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 08:52:03AM -0700, Harald Schilly wrote:
This should be moved to sage-flame.
On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:42:14 AM UTC+2, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby
Microwave Ltd) wrote:
If not against the GPL, this certainly seems to be going against the
*spirit* of the
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