[sage-devel] Re: Solaris doctest failure and 'maxima' issue with tests.

2009-05-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: sage -t devel/sage/sage/misc/misc_c.pyx ** File /export/home/drkirkby/sage/sage-4.0.rc0/devel/sage/sage/misc/misc_c.pyx, line 359: sage: test_bitset('00'*32, '01'*32, 64) Expected: a

[sage-devel] Re: Solaris doctest failure and 'maxima' issue with tests.

2009-05-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: I was on the local host - sitting at the chair in front of my workstation. No ssh/telnet or similar. I quit sage, removed the directory .sage, then started again, using notebook(address=, open_viewer=False) just for a test. Again, there is nothing I can see listening

[sage-devel] Re: Web page looks pretty poor compared to Mathematica's

2009-05-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
ahmet alper parker wrote: Also, why not give them some real life example for why to use a free/opensource program instead of a commercial one. I think this is far more important then money. In example, one of a professor at my university has written a program on a language which has no

[sage-devel] What should happen if you type 'notebook()' ?

2009-05-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
If one starts Sage and types 'notebook()', I believe this should start a server which can be used to connect via a browser. Should the command return, giving a sage prompt, like it would if you typed 1+1 ? When I type 'notebook()' with 4.0-rc0 on Solaris, I get the following: -- sage:

[sage-devel] Re: Solaris doctest failure and 'maxima' issue with tests.

2009-05-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: Did you try sage: notebook(secure=True) ? I had not tried an encrypted link. I did not know Sage supported this, and was going to mention it as potentailly useful. I can see you have beaten me to it. I can think of occasions where I would have liked to show

[sage-devel] Re: Solaris doctest failure and 'maxima' issue with tests.

2009-06-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: 1) sage-4.0.rc0 hangs when generating the private key: drkir...@kestrel:[~/sage/sage-4.0.rc0] $ ./sage 2) Using 4.0.rc1 I get a different problem - see below. That's caused by you

[sage-devel] Failure generating keys for secure notebook on Solaris

2009-06-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
FWIW, sage-4.0.1.alpha0 compiled without any hickups on my Blade 2000 running Solaris 10 update 6. Again, like any version of Sage I've tried (including the binary Micheal compiled), the GUI interface, with 'notebook()' will not work for me. I'm unable to find any server listening on port

[sage-devel] Re: Failure generating keys for secure notebook on Solaris

2009-06-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Again, like any version of Sage I've tried (including the binary Micheal compiled), the GUI interface, with 'notebook()' will not work for me. I'm unable to find any server listening on port 8. I was checking port 8000 - the 8 is a typo

[sage-devel] Re: Failure generating keys for secure notebook on Solaris

2009-06-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
FWIW, sage-4.0.1.alpha0 compiled without any hickups on my Blade 2000 running Solaris 10 update 6. William Stein wrote: 2009/6/4 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net: FWIW, sage-4.0.1.alpha0 compiled without any hickups on my Blade 2000 running Solaris 10 update 6. Did you run

[sage-devel] Re: Failure generating keys for secure notebook on Solaris

2009-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dan Drake wrote: On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote: Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet? If so, it would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't yet!), since then I could directly debug this notebook problem. Note that right now,

[sage-devel] Re: Failure generating keys for secure notebook on Solaris

2009-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote: Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet? If so, it would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't yet!), since then I

[sage-devel] Re: Securing Sage Notebook - MSc project

2009-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Yoav Aner wrote: Hello all, This is my first post. My name is Yoav, and I'm studying for an Information Security MSc at Royal Holloway, University of London. I'm starting to work on a project proposed by Martin Albrecht, to look at several security aspects of the Sage Notebook server. Hi,

[sage-devel] Re: Failure generating keys for secure notebook on Solaris

2009-06-05 Thread Dr David Kirkby
On Jun 5, 8:48 am, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: On Fri, Jun 5 2009 12:37 am, William Stein wrote: Have you got an account on t2.math.washington.edu yet?  If so, it would be *extremely* useful if you could build Sage there (I haven't yet!), since then I could directly debug this

[sage-devel] Re: Failure generating keys for secure notebook on Solaris

2009-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr David Kirkby wrote: On Jun 5, 8:48 am, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: Note that right now, building Sage fails on that machine with an internal compiler error -- the Fortran compiler fails. There's a partial build in /scratch/drake if you want to see an install log. Dan

[sage-devel] Can gmp-4.2.3 mpfr-2.3.2 be moved to the T2 to build gcc ??

2009-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've downloaded gcc 4.4.0 with a view to building this to try to get rid of the internal compiler bug on the T2. I looked at an install.log of one of my builds of Sage using the Solaris binaries from Micheal and see the compiler was configured with: GCC Version gcc -v Using built-in specs.

[sage-devel] Re: Can gmp-4.2.3 mpfr-2.3.2 be moved to the T2 to build gcc ??

2009-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Anthony David wrote: On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I've downloaded gcc 4.4.0 with a view to building this to try to get rid of the internal compiler bug on the T2. As a general question to the list: I understand that sage is designed to

[sage-devel] Some progress on t2.math.washington.edu issues

2009-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I need to do some other things now, so will return to this later. But I believe I've found some of the reasons Sage is not building on t2.math.washington.edu whereas it does on my Blade 2000. 1) It is possible the gcc 4.3.1 binaries in /usr/local/sparc-solaris-toolchain were created in a

[sage-devel] Re: Some progress on t2.math.washington.edu issues

2009-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I need to do some other things now, so will return to this later. But I believe I've found some of the reasons Sage is not building on t2.math.washington.edu whereas it does on my Blade 2000.

[sage-devel] Re: Some progress on t2.math.washington.edu issues

2009-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Bill Hart wrote: -bash-3.00$ cat /etc/release Solaris 10 1/06 s10s_u1wos_19a SPARC Copyright 2005 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 07 December 2005

[sage-devel] Re: t2.math.washington.edu

2009-06-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: I have just confirmed that mark and mark2 have identical Solaris installs. So I guess that wasn't the problem. OK, that confirms my initial thought that the gfortran binary was too new is wrong. Either way, that fortran compiler is definitely a problem on t2, as even a

[sage-devel] Solaris toolchain - fails on other machines too.

2009-06-07 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
As some of you know, I downloaded the Solaris toochain and managed to build sage on my Blade 2000. But Sage will not build on t2.math.washington.edu, due to a problem with gfortran. The Blade 2500 on which the toolchain ws build is quite a similar machine to my Blade 2000, but t2 is quite

[sage-devel] What's the best way to change files, without lots of recompilation?

2009-06-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
In most open-source program, which come as a set of source files, one can change a file, type 'make' and the changes will be seen immediately. In Sage, this is not so, as typing 'make' after any edits to files will extract the original .spkg file, and overwrite ones edits. I know one could

[sage-devel] Solaris toolchain based on gcc-4.4.0

2009-06-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've created a tool chain for Solaris on t2, which I'm hoping solves the gfortran issues. Certainly gcc-4.4.0 will compile fortran programs now and it seems to get a long way to building Sage, although I do have an error I hope to fix. If anyone wishes to use it, please sent the following

[sage-devel] Re: e2: Mathematica and free software

2009-06-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Harald Schilly wrote: Nice and interesting article on everything2.com about free maths software, a presentation by wolfram about mathematica and thoughts about the reason, why mathematica is still tolerated. Link to Sage included ;)

[sage-devel] Re: Solaris toolchain based on gcc-4.4.0

2009-06-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: 6) Attempt to build Sage. This gets quite a long way but does fail at sqlite-3.5.3.p3. I'll put the compilation issues in another message, as I don't think it is related to the build of gcc 4.4.0, but the order some libraries are linked in sqlite - the error message

[sage-devel] Build problem of sqlite-3.6.14.2 on Solaris 10 with gcc 4.4.0

2009-06-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I'm sending this to sqlite-us...@sqlite.org in the hope someone can help, but are copying it to sage-devel@googlegroups.com so there is a record there. I'll post a summary to the latter list later. I'm helping out on the GPL'ed open-source mathematics program Sage http://www.sagemath.org/ to

[sage-devel] Build problem of sqlite-3.6.14.2 on Solaris 10 with gcc 4.4.0

2009-06-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I'm sending this to sqlite-us...@sqlite.org in the hope someone can help, but are copying it to sage-devel@googlegroups.com so there is a record there. I'll post a summary to the latter list later. I'm helping out on the GPL'ed open-source mathematics program Sage http://www.sagemath.org/ to

[sage-devel] Re: What's the best way to change files, without lots of recompilation?

2009-06-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Mike Hansen wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: In Sage, this is not so, as typing 'make' after any edits to files will extract the original .spkg file, and overwrite ones edits. I know one could create a new .spkg file, but that

[sage-devel] I've fixed sqlite on Solaris 10 - what's the process now ?

2009-06-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I believe I have found the problem why sqlite 3.5.3.p3 would not build on Solaris 10 with gcc-4.4.0. That now builds on t2 at least. I previously submitted this as a trac ticket http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac/ticket/6266 I'm not sure of the process of now getting that fix incorporated into

[sage-devel] Re: I've fixed sqlite on Solaris 10 - what's the process now ?

2009-06-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dan Drake wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 at 01:35AM +0100, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I believe I have found the problem why sqlite 3.5.3.p3 would not build on Solaris 10 with gcc-4.4.0. That now builds on t2 at least. I previously submitted this as a trac ticket http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac

[sage-devel] atlas-3.8.3.p2 failing on Solaris 10 with gcc-4.4.0

2009-06-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
After getting sqlite 3.5.3.p3 building on t2 with gcc-4.4.0, Sage is falling over on atlas-3.8.3.p2. Before I waste any time on this, is a fix known, or anyone have any useful information about the problem? I'd rather not waste time on it if the reason for the failure is known, but the fix is

[sage-devel] Re: I've fixed sqlite on Solaris 10 - what's the process now ?

2009-06-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dan Drake wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 at 01:35AM +0100, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I believe I have found the problem why sqlite 3.5.3.p3 would not build on Solaris 10 with gcc-4.4.0. That now builds on t2 at least. I previously submitted this as a trac ticket http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac

[sage-devel] Re: I've fixed sqlite on Solaris 10 - what's the process now ?

2009-06-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: 2009/6/13 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net: What's the process of marking this as to need a review, and to find a reviewer? Just put [with patch; needs review] I've done that. I thought I'd repost the link, then made a mess of the link, as I gave it to one

[sage-devel] Re: atlas-3.8.3.p2 failing on Solaris 10 with gcc-4.4.0

2009-06-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: 2009/6/13 Clint Whaley wha...@cs.utsa.edu: The actual error you guys are showing below looks more like something really odd happened during an install: It is trying to choose a small block factor, and has chosen 0. Looking at the place the assertion failed, its

[sage-devel] Could Sage be built in parallel?

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I know from experience that trying to build programs in parallel, with things like $ make -j 10 will often break them, so I tend not to do it. It's a nice idea, and does work in some cases, but in others one just ends up with a mess. But Sage is a big program, and takes a *long* time to

[sage-devel] Sage 4.0.1.alpha0 linbox trying to build before blas was installed

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
In the process of building Sage on t2, I noticed another failure, which I'm somewhat surprised has not been seen on all platforms. I've submitted this as ticket 6278, where more information is provided than here. Essentially the following packages are now installed on my attempts at building

[sage-devel] Re: Could Sage be built in parallel?

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I know from experience that trying to build programs in parallel, with things like $ make -j 10 will often break them, so I tend not to do it. It's a nice idea, and does work in some

[sage-devel] Re: atlas-3.8.3.p2 failing on Solaris 10 with gcc-4.4.0

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
The fix suggested by Clint to allow ATLAS to build (namely making GuessSmallNB return 28) does indeed allow ATLAS to build. I could crate a patch file for that, which is only applied on Solaris, but clearly this is not a long-term solution, as I assume it will degrade performance on Solaris.

[sage-devel] Re: I've fixed sqlite on Solaris 10 - what's the process now ?

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: 2009/6/13 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net: What's the process of marking this as to need a review, and to find a reviewer? Just put [with patch; needs review] I've done that. I thought I'd repost the link, then made a mess of the link, as I gave it to one

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.1.alpha0 linbox trying to build before blas was installed

2009-06-14 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: In the process of building Sage on t2, I noticed another failure, which I'm somewhat surprised has not been seen on all platforms. I've submitted this as ticket 6278, where more information

[sage-devel] Re: Not able to compile sage-4.0.1

2009-06-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: nitu wrote: Hi All, I am trying to build sage-4.0.1 and getting the following error: Build environment : #uname -a SunOS smath01 5.10 Generic_137137-09 sun4v sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-T200 Compiler used: Sunstudio 12 cfg/shared.c: In function `store_single_arg': cfg

[sage-devel] Can Trac 6266 get a positive review now?

2009-06-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
This was my first patch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6266 so things did not go quite to plan. The basic code works, but 'ddrake' commented I'd put too many stars in the SPGK.txt, as they were supposed to be a for list. He changed the sPKG.txt file, made a package. My code worked

[sage-devel] Re: Can Trac 6266 get a positive review now?

2009-06-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dan Drake wrote: On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 at 12:17AM +0100, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: This was my first patch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6266 so things did not go quite to plan. The basic code works, but 'ddrake' commented I'd put too many stars in the SPGK.txt, as they were

[sage-devel] Re: atlas-3.8.3.p2 failing on Solaris 10 with gcc-4.4.0

2009-06-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: The fix suggested by Clint to allow ATLAS to build (namely making GuessSmallNB return 28) does indeed allow ATLAS to build. I could crate a patch file for that, which is only applied on

[sage-devel] Re: Interested in helping port Sage (maths software) to Solaris ??

2009-06-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Tristram Scott wrote: Hi Dave, I might be interested in working on this, but only if there is a chance that it will be possible to get it to compile using the SunStudio compilers. I see that at the moment the only work being done is under gcc. Anyway, I have sun hardware, ranging from

[sage-devel] hg on t2.math.washington.edu

2009-06-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I noticed someone installed 'hg' yesterday on t2. Is this to be expected? kir...@t2:[~] $ hg abort: couldn't find mercurial libraries in [/usr/local/bin /usr/lib/python24.zip /usr/lib/python2.4 /usr/lib/python2.4/plat-sunos5 /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload

[sage-devel] Re: Build error: atlas-3.8.3.p0

2009-06-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Minh Nguyen wrote: This looks to me like your system was overloaded or something (just a guess). But can you give some information about your hardware, like CPU speed, etc. Would it not be sensible for Sage to at least give an option of continuing if ATLAS can't be optimized? The fact is,

[sage-devel] Is t2.math.washington.edu working now - I can't log in?

2009-06-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I was using t2 fine earlier (about 12 hours ago) and all seemed ok, but any attempt for me to ssh to it now just hangs. Note, I disabled telnet and ftp the other day on t2, as they are an unnecessary security risk. Can someone try to ssh to t2 and let me know what happens? It just hangs from

[sage-devel] Re: Is t2.math.washington.edu working now - I can't log in?

2009-06-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi David, On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I was using t2 fine earlier (about 12 hours ago) and all seemed ok, but any attempt for me to ssh to it now just hangs. Note, I disabled telnet and ftp the other day on t2, as

[sage-devel] Re: Is t2.math.washington.edu working now - I can't log in?

2009-06-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Tom Boothby wrote: t2 is reporting 4 hours of uptime, though it wasn't responding 3 hours ago. Fishy? I suspect the problem was outside of t2. The machine logged no messages at all to indicated it had problems, so perhaps a power failure was the issue. When the machine came up, the home

[sage-devel] Seeking reviewer for patch to fix core dump of atlas on Solaris.

2009-06-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I have not developed and tested a patch which allows ATLAS to build on Solaris using gcc-4.4.0 on 't2'. Could someone please review please the patch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6276 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: Seeking reviewer for patch to fix core dump of atlas on Solaris.

2009-06-19 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I have not developed and tested a patch which allows ATLAS to build on Solaris using gcc-4.4.0 on 't2'. Could someone please review please the patch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6276 Oops, that was supposed to be 'I have NOW developed a patch

[sage-devel] Re: Seeking reviewer for patch to fix core dump of atlas on Solaris.

2009-06-19 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: rm -f libbz2.a ar cq libbz2.a blocksort.o huffman.o crctable.o randtable.o compress.o decompress.o bzlib.o make[2]: ar: Command not found make[2]: *** [libbz2.a] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/wstein/t2/sage-4.0.2/spkg/build/bzip2-1.0.5' Error building

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.1.alpha0 linbox trying to build before blas was installed

2009-06-19 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: In the process of building Sage on t2, I noticed another failure, which I'm somewhat surprised has not been seen on all platforms. I've submitted this as ticket 6278, where more information is provided than here. Essentially the following packages are now

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.1.alpha0 linbox trying to build before blas was installed

2009-06-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Dr. David How can the bug be closed. I've closed it. Only a few people have the option to close tickets right now. William Thank you. That's one less Solaris bug to worry over. Plenty more though to occupy our time. dave

[sage-devel] mpfr 2.4.1 build issue on Solaris with gcc 4.4.0

2009-06-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Before building gcc 4.4.0 on 't2' I needed to build mpfr, as it is perquisite for gcc. I built the latest version of mpfr (2.4.1) using the Sun supplied gcc 3.4.2 in /usr/sfw/bin. mpfr built and passed all 148 tests. With the aid: 1) The aid of a patch to atlas

[sage-devel] Website says latest is 4.0.1, but link to source shows 4.0.2

2009-06-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Title pretty much says it all. http://www.sagemath.org/ says Download 4.0.1 following the links and one finds a link to http://sage.math.washington.edu/sage/src/sage-4.0.2.tar Easy to fix I guess. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: mpfr 2.4.1 build issue on Solaris with gcc 4.4.0

2009-06-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Before building gcc 4.4.0 on 't2' I needed to build mpfr, as it is perquisite for gcc. I built the latest version of mpfr (2.4.1) using the Sun supplied gcc 3.4.2 in /usr/sfw/bin. mpfr built and passed all 148 tests. With the aid: 1) The aid of a patch

[sage-devel] Re: Is ntl-5.4.2.p7 setting the output name of the shared library twice ?

2009-06-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: 2009/6/21 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net: In the patches directory of ntl-5.4.2.p7 there are two files which I'd consider makefiles (i.e. make would understand them) -rw-r- 1 kirkby 1093 443 Mar 24 2008 ntl_makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 kirkby

[sage-devel] Was shared libraries added to ATLAS in Sage ?

2009-06-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
When I tried to build Sage on my Blade 2000 with gcc 4.4.0 configured to use the Sun linker, so it failed to build, when building ATLAS. make[3]: Entering directory `/export/home/drkirkby/sage/sage-4.0.2/spkg/build/atlas-3.8.3.p3/ATLAS-build/lib' ld -shared -soname libatlas.so -o

[sage-devel] Re: Was shared libraries added to ATLAS in Sage ?

2009-06-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I downloaded the ATLAS source code from sourceforge, built, tested and installed that with no problem at all. However, I note it only maked static libraries, not shared libraries on my Sun Blade 2000. I would add, building, testing, *tuning* and installing ATLAS

[sage-devel] Re: Is ntl-5.4.2.p7 setting the output name of the shared library twice ?

2009-06-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: 2009/6/21 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net: In the patches directory of ntl-5.4.2.p7 there are two files which I'd consider makefiles (i.e. make would understand them) -rw-r- 1 kirkby 1093 443 Mar 24 2008 ntl_makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 kirkby

[sage-devel] Re: Was shared libraries added to ATLAS in Sage ?

2009-06-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: When I tried to build Sage on my Blade 2000 with gcc 4.4.0 configured to use the Sun linker, so it failed to build, when building ATLAS. make[3]: Entering directory `/export/home/drkirkby/sage/sage-4.0.2/spkg/build/atlas-3.8.3.p3/ATLAS-build/lib' ld -shared

[sage-devel] Solaris and README's

2009-06-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
According to the top level README.txt -- NOT OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED, BUT NEARLY WORKS: PROCESSOR OPERATING SYSTEM sparc Solaris 10 -- works fine (needs custom built gcc toolchain) x86_64 Solaris 10 --

[sage-devel] Ports to FreeBSD and/or NetBSD

2009-06-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
From the top README.txt --- NOT SUPPORTED: * FreeBSD * Arch Linux * Gentoo Linux * Microsoft Windows (via Visual Studio C++) * Microsoft Windows (via Cygwin) We like all of the above operating systems, but

[sage-devel] Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I think we should really make some effort to improve our page on Wikipedia. Comparing the Sage and Mathematica pages on Wikipedia shows the Mathematica one is much nicer. Would it not be sensible to put some effort into promoting Sage there? If it looks like the program is more complete, one

[sage-devel] A bug or mis-use ?

2009-06-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Some of you may be aware of Vladimir Bondarenko, who is an 'interesting' character who can be very childish at times, but has written some interesting software which can find faults with computer algebra systems. He took a quick look at http://demo.sagenb.org/ as he could potentially hook up

[sage-devel] Re: A bug or mis-use ?

2009-06-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Mike Hansen wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: exp(-x^i).integral(x,0,1) returns Traceback (click to the left for traceback) ... Is %i an integer? Ouch! Any Sage comments? This is just coming from Maxima: (%i3)

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I think we should really make some effort to improve our page on Wikipedia. OK, based on some input from others, and what I found with Google, I have revised the 'Features* section somewhat (and only the Features to date). The current page is here (this might include

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
kcrisman wrote: A related page to look at would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_algebra_systems Note that Mma is declared there to be ubiquitous while Maple only notes its libraries' sources are viewable. Our friends at Axiom even link from there to a video! -

[sage-devel] Reviewer needed for patch to allow ATLAS to build on Solaris with Sun linker

2009-06-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
As reported before, ATLAS fails to build on Solaris if the Sun linker is used, since the flags in one of the makefiles are GNU-specific. The patch applies 'sed' a few times to substitute the GNU flags to the Sun flags: -shared == -G -soname == -h --whole-archive == -z allextract

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.alpha0

2009-06-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Robert Miller wrote: This is the first release of the new cycle, and I've agreed to step in and co-chair the release with Tom. The source tarball and sage.math binary are available: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.alpha0.tar

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Simon King wrote: Hi On Jun 24, 8:33 pm, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: A related page to look at would behttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_algebra_systems I updated that somewhat, expanded the description similar to that for Mathematica. I removed the 'Boolean

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: Cheers, Simon Unix is tricky, as Solaris works, on some machines, but is not fully supported. (To be precise about this, one needs a definition of 'support'). Sage works on OS X, and OS X has been officially certified to be UNIX. There is a separate column for

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Skylar Saveland wrote: * A collection of databases of mathematical, scientific, and socio-economic information (see below) Man, that would be neat to have data like that at your fingertips with a sage interface and R and Python backing you up. (and not having to work to hard to have

[sage-devel] Re: A bug or mis-use ?

2009-06-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Mike Hansen wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: exp(-x^i).integral(x,0,1) returns Traceback (click to the left for traceback) ... Is

[sage-devel] I need a bit of python help

2009-06-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I better buy a book on python, but in the mean time, can anyone help me here. In 'polibori' /polybori-0.5rc.p7/patches/SConstruct there is this bit of code: def sonameprefix(env): if env['PLATFORM']==darwin: return -Wl,-dylib_install_name -Wl, else: return

[sage-devel] Re: I need a bit of python help

2009-06-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
#!/usr/bin/bash if [ `uname` = SunOS -a `ld --version 21 | grep GNU` = ]; then echo Solaris system. The linker is NOT the GNU linker echo The correct compiler flags are '-Wl,-h,' elif [ `uname` = darwin ]; then echo OS X echo Correct compiler flags are '-Wl,-h,' else

[sage-devel] Re: I need a bit of python help

2009-06-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
John H Palmieri wrote: On Jun 27, 6:50 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: #!/usr/bin/bash if [ `uname` = SunOS -a `ld --version 21 | grep GNU` = ]; then echo Solaris system. The linker is NOT the GNU linker echo The correct compiler flags are '-Wl,-h,' elif

[sage-devel] REALLY ODD twisted error on Solaris with sage-4.1.alpha2

2009-06-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
twisted-8.2.0 is messing up on my Solaris box, but it looks odd. The error message is saying there's no spkg-install script,setup.py or configure script. But there is. drkir...@kestrel:[~/sage/sage-4.1.alpha2/spkg/build/twisted-8.2.0] $ ls -l total 9 -rw-r--r-- 1 drkirkby other 1466

[sage-devel] Re: REALLY ODD twisted error on Solaris with sage-4.1.alpha2

2009-06-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: twisted-8.2.0 is messing up on my Solaris box, but it looks odd. The error message is saying there's no spkg-install script,setup.py or configure script. But there is. Oops, somehow I seem to have cut out the most important bit of the error message, which

[sage-devel] Re: REALLY ODD twisted error on Solaris with sage-4.1.alpha2

2009-06-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: twisted-8.2.0 is messing up on my Solaris box, but it looks odd. The error message is saying there's no spkg-install script,setup.py or configure script. But there is.

[sage-devel] Re: REALLY ODD twisted error on Solaris with sage-4.1.alpha2

2009-06-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: twisted-8.2.0 is messing up on my Solaris box, but it looks odd. The error message is saying there's no spkg-install script,setup.py or configure script. But there is.

[sage-devel] Re: I need a bit of python help

2009-06-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Arnaud Bergeron wrote: Then change the function to this: def sonameprefix(env): if env['PLATFORM']==darwin: return -Wl,-dylib_install_name -Wl, elif env['PLATFORM']==what you found: if 'GNU' in os.system('ld --version'): return GNU flags

[sage-devel] Re: I need a bit of python help

2009-06-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: 2009/6/28 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net: Arnaud Bergeron wrote: Then change the function to this: def sonameprefix(env): if env['PLATFORM']==darwin: return -Wl,-dylib_install_name -Wl, elif env['PLATFORM']==what you found

[sage-devel] A GNUism in zn_poly-0.9.p0 causes linking problems with Sun's linker

2009-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I just found this with sage-4.1.alpha2. zn_poly-0.9.p0 has a problem, a GNU-specific flag (-soname) is passed to the linker, which breaks if the linker is the Sun linker. gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,libzn_poly-`cat VERSION`.so -o libzn_poly-`cat VERSION`.so src/array.o src/invert.o

[sage-devel] Strange problem on t2 - pari fails to build, but fine on my home machine.

2009-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Well, is is a bit of an odd one. I built gcc 4.4.0 to use the Sun linker assembler on my home machine (Sun Blade 2000, Solaris 10 update 6) and it built 61 packages without any issues I have not yet fixed. (see list at the bottom). On 't2', I only get 6 packages built before pari generates

[sage-devel] /mpir-1.2.p4 has no entry for p4 is SPKG.txt

2009-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
The SPKG.txt for mpir-1.2.p4 shows: == Changelog == === mpir-1.2.p3 (Nick Alexander, June 9, 2009) === * Update to latest MPIR 1.2 final release. === mpir-1.2.p2 (William Stein, June 4, 2009) === * Update to latest MPIR 1.2 pre-release Shall this just be ignored? Do we want a trac

[sage-devel] Re: Fw: [mpir-devel] Strange problem on t2 - pari fails to build, but fine on my home machine.

2009-06-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Jason Moxham wrote: - Original Message - From: Jason Moxham ja...@njkfrudils.plus.com To: mpir-devel mpir-de...@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:46 PM Subject:

[sage-devel] flint's use of the 'cp' command.

2009-06-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I noticed a problem when building 'sage-4.1.alpha2.spkg'. It complains ld: fatal: library -lflint: not found But the flint package indicates it was installed. However, when I tried to build flint again, I see this error message: Deleting old FLINT Installing new library file cp: illegal

[sage-devel] Re: flint's use of the 'cp' command.

2009-06-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I noticed a problem when building 'sage-4.1.alpha2.spkg'. It complains ld: fatal: library -lflint: not found But the flint package indicates it was installed. However, when I tried to

[sage-devel] Re: flint's use of the 'cp' command.

2009-06-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I noticed a problem when building 'sage-4.1.alpha2.spkg'. It complains ld: fatal: library -lflint: not found But the flint package indicates it was installed. However, when I tried to

[sage-devel] MPFR test failures in Sage (optimisation issue)

2009-06-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I found that when trying to build Sage on t2.math.washington.edu there are problems with 'mpfr', with 20 out of 148 test failures. I downloaded the mpfr 2.4.1 source, compiled that with the same gcc optimisation level as used in Sage (-O2). Again mpfr failed 20 tests. I can't say for sure

[sage-devel] Re: flint's use of the 'cp' command.

2009-06-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Jason Grout wrote: Dr. David Kirkby wrote: William Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I noticed a problem when building 'sage-4.1.alpha2.spkg'. It complains ld: fatal: library -lflint: not found But the flint package indicates

[sage-devel] Re: MPFR test failures in Sage (optimisation issue)

2009-06-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I found that when trying to build Sage on t2.math.washington.edu there are problems with 'mpfr', with 20 out of 148 test failures. I downloaded the mpfr 2.4.1 source, compiled that with the same gcc optimisation level as used in Sage (-O2). Again mpfr failed 20

[sage-devel] Trac issue

2009-07-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Trac seems to be working for me, but if I choose: {6} All Tickets By Milestone (Including closed) Report execution failed: column modified does not exist LINE 16: (CASE status WHEN 'closed' THEN modified ELSE (-1)*p... ^ I don't know if this is a new issue or not.

[sage-devel] Can I keep build data once a package is installed ok?

2009-07-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Once a .spkg package is built, tested and installed in Sage, all the config files using during its creation, all the object files etc are all deleted. This is obviously normally a good idea, as it conserves disk space. But sometimes it is a pain. For example, I get a problem with mpfr. It

[sage-devel] Re: flint's use of the 'cp' command.

2009-07-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Jason Grout wrote: Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Since -a is the same as -dpR, you might also want to use at least -r http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?cp Thanks, Jason Thank you Jason

[sage-devel] Re: flint's use of the 'cp' command.

2009-07-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Bill Hart wrote: I'm confused about something. Don't we already have a Solaris port? Or am I just confused with the OSX port? Hi Bill, this is current view of the situation on Solaris SPARC - I don't know about x86/x64. Time permitting, I will look at x64 later. There is a port of Sage to

[sage-devel] Re: Can I keep build data once a package is installed ok?

2009-07-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
John H Palmieri wrote: On Jul 1, 5:21 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Once a .spkg package is built, tested and installed in Sage, all the config files using during its creation, all the object files etc are all deleted. This is obviously normally a good idea

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