Re: [SC-L] SearchSecurity: Medical Devices and Software Security

2014-07-07 Thread Jeremy Epstein
Agree with you - there's nothing new in the article. I gave a talk a couple years ago at a conference on biomedical engineering, and there was one person in the room (out of a few hundred) who had heard of Therac-25. (Which I assume is what you were referring to with 1985.) If the article were

Re: [SC-L] [External] Re: SearchSecurity: Medical Devices and Software Security

2014-07-07 Thread Goertzel, Karen [USA]
Another big frustration: No-one seems to be making any real headway into the problem of actually measuring loss attributable to doing nothing - or, in other words, losses cradle to grave from operating insufficiently secure systems. People try to measure ROI from security, which is a ridiculous