[SC-L] Secure programming is NOT just good programming

2006-10-12 Thread David A. Wheeler
mikeiscool claimed: Secure programming is good programming. Most books teach good programming. I strongly disagree with you, on both counts. At the least, those who say they practice good programming practices, and books that say they teach good programming practices, are GROSSLY INADEQUATE

Re: [SC-L] Secure programming is NOT just good programming

2006-10-12 Thread Gary McGraw
:24:35 2006 To: David A. Wheeler Cc: sc-l@securecoding.org Subject:Re: [SC-L] Secure programming is NOT just good programming | Here are some practices you should typically be doing | if you're worried about security, and note that many are | typically NOT considered good programming

Re: [SC-L] Secure programming is NOT just good programming

2006-10-12 Thread Kenneth Van Wyk
On Oct 12, 2006, at 4:32 PM, Gary McGraw wrote: I suppose now is as good a time as any to say that everything david is talking about here is described in great detail in the HOW TO book that I released last february. If you're reading this list, you really should read that book. It's

Re: [SC-L] Secure programming is NOT just good programming

2006-10-12 Thread Leichter, Jerry
| The only way forward is by having the *computer* do this kind of | thing for us. The requirements of the task are very much like those | of low-level code optimization: We leave that to the compilers today, | because hardly anyone can do it well at all, much less competitively | with

Re: [SC-L] Secure programming is NOT just good programming

2006-10-12 Thread mikeiscool
On 10/13/06, David A. Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mikeiscool claimed: Secure programming is good programming. Most books teach good programming. I strongly disagree with you, on both counts. As is your right :) At the least, those who say they practice good programming practices,