[SC-L] Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?

2009-08-20 Thread Neil Matatall
Inspired by the What is the size of this list? discussion, I decided I won't be a lurker :) A question prompted by http://michael-coates.blogspot.com/2009/04/universities-web-app-security.html

Re: [SC-L] Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?

2009-08-20 Thread McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
Here is where my enterpriseyness will show. I believe the answer to the question of where secure coding belongs in the curiculum is somewhat flawed and requires addressing the curiculum holistically. If you go to art school, you are required to study the works of the masters. You don't attempt

Re: [SC-L] What is the size of this list?

2009-08-20 Thread Matt Bishop
Another lurker revealing himself ... my name is Matt Bishop, and I lurk at the University of California at Davis where I teach and do research in lots of areas of computer security, including (surprise!) what is traditionally called secure programming and secure software development. For

Re: [SC-L] Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?

2009-08-20 Thread Goertzel, Karen [USA]
I'm more devious. I think what needs to happen is that we need to redefine what we mean by functionally correct or quality code. If determination of functional correctness were extended from must operate as specified under expected conditions to must operate as specified under all conditions,

[SC-L] embedded systems security analysis

2009-08-20 Thread Arian J. Evans
Rafael -- to clarify concretely: There are quite a few researchers that attack/exploit embedded systems. Some google searches will probably provide you with names. None of the folks I know of that actively work on exploiting embedded systems are on this listbut I figure if I know a handful

Re: [SC-L] Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?

2009-08-20 Thread Gary McGraw
hi neil, For what it's worth, there is a list of universities with some kind of software security curriculum on page 98 of Software Security http://swsec.com. Remember, this list was created in 2006, and lots of other universities have jumped on the bandwagon since then. * University of