Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-05-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 7:10 PM Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: > > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 4:08 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > I did this sort of stunt years ago with previous Red HGat and RHEL, > > and even

Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-05-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender I did this sort of stunt years ago with previous Red HGat and RHEL, and even had some tools to switch Scientific Linux releases to the matching CentOS releases and back. I do *not* recommend it! Resolving the library differences for core

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] rsync issues with mirroring

2024-03-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender I can see it myself from home. I do note that RHEL 7 is being obsoleted within a couple of months. Will the Scientific Linux 7 at this site be archived, or kept alive indefinitely? On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 4:41 PM Patrick Riehecky wrote: > >

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 9:06 AM Laura Hild wrote: > > > No! No. No LVM! Bad admin, no biscuit! > > [...] > > *Bad* admin. Where's my squirt bottle? > > Yeah, I wrote "if you're a slice-and-dicer" for a reason. One big root is a > fine option, but it's not the situation I was imagining where one

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 5:07 PM Laura Hild wrote: > > > But shrinking a partition is something that is far less likely to need > > to be done in an enterprise environment (compared to me fighting with > > too old hardware at home), so maybe that doesn't really matter. > > Especially if you use LVM

Re: Perpetual Data (SL6 ssh fail)

2023-01-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:52 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > Keith, thanks. In practice, experiment data is not "perpetual", > life time of typical physics experiment is about 5-10 years after > the last data taking. Afterwards, people tend to dissipate (retire, > graduate and move on, just

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 9:09 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 03:26:33PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote: > > > > The SL6 issue is a different matter. Not only are various > > applications vulnerable to compromises from the Internet, but so is > > the kernel as well as kernel

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 9:03 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 08:04:19PM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > ... you can validate the source tarballs and review any patches and the > > .spec file. > > > > no, I cannot validate and

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 4:15 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 08, 2023 at 08:48:33AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > There is a third party SRPM at: > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rnd.rajven.net_cen

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:51 AM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > > > > > I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: > > > > SL 6 is obsolete, maybe time to upgrade? > > > > > Looking on my list of SL6 machines: There is a third party SRPM at:

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:51 AM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > > > > > I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: > > > > SL 6 is obsolete, maybe time to upgrade? > > > > > Looking on my list of SL6 machines: > > experiment stations: dragon, musr, bnmr/bnqr, pol, titan.

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 11:18 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: SL 6 is obsolete, the upstream RHEL 6 is out of primary support for more than 2 years. Maybe time to upgrade? > root@daq00:~# ssh ladd00 > Unable to negotiate

Re: Crucial Computer Program for Particle Physics at Risk of Obsolescence | Quanta Magazine

2023-01-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
rebuilt operating system from an upstream source and no longer being maintained. Why do you bring it up here? Nico Kadel-Garcia

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 9:38 AM Behrens, Lars (PHI) wrote: > > > CERN and Fermilab jointly plan to provide AlmaLinux as the standard > > distribution for experiments > > Will there be (or is there already) an upgrade path from Scientific 7 > to AlmaLinux 8? > > I know they have scripts to switch

Re: perfect chick / egg problem

2022-01-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 11:26 AM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > The solution: > > Make a bootable usb flash on widnows 10 laptop and it works. The > application sees that a couple of files are missing from Alma 8.5 and > adds them. > > If you use "dd"

Re: perfect chicken egg Alma Web site.

2022-01-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 5:26 PM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > Planning to upgrade a number of WS's to Alma 8.5. > I need to ask them a question but their web site says my brouser is too > old. So I can't ask them a question about installing Alma 8.5 > >

Re: Repo for updateso to an old SL

2021-12-19 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
CentOS furor or not, SL 6 is unsupportable, and SL 7 is still supported. For such a package, I'd look at

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
Is that nx server from the freenx package? On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:59 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:14 PM Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > > > > Sorry, my customer is bound to SL 6.10, a medical programm is only > > supported under 6.10 (and ubun

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:14 PM Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > > Sorry, my customer is bound to SL 6.10, a medical programm is only > supported under 6.10 (and ubuntu 20.04) , a new server was just > installed 2 months ago for 25 linux workstations (XDMCP linux clients, > Win10 with NX ). Thats the

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 3:08 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 2:22 PM Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > using SL 6.10, nxserver 3.2.0-74 . > > Stop there. Update to SL 7 if you expect contemporary tools to work or > conti

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 2:22 PM Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > > Hello, > > using SL 6.10, nxserver 3.2.0-74 . Stop there. Update to SL 7 if you expect contemporary tools to work or continue to work: the underlying RHEL 6 from upstream The final release of RHEL 6 was more than 3 years ago.

Re: Need to add ftp to SL 6 machine

2021-11-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 11:23 PM Andrew Komornicki wrote: > > > Hi, > > Has anyone considered using secure ftp, sftp. It is much more secure > and readily available. Just like SSH secure shell. > > regards, > Andrew In practical terms. SFTP has little to no advantage over FTPS, SSL enabled

Re: Need to add ftp to SL 6 machine

2021-11-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 11:12 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > > > > Once I had a clue I was able to install the vsftpd rpm > > > > Running an unmaintained, out-of-date, password based service like FTP > > on an obsolete and unsupported operating system is begging for a lot > > of trouble if

Re: Need to add ftp to SL 6 machine

2021-11-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 10:38 AM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > Thank You all. > I have a copy of the .iso disk on box. > Once I had a clue I was able to install the vsftpd rpm > Archive manager works pretty nicely. > > Larry Linder Wait, what? vsftpd

Re: Need to add ftp to SL 6 machine

2021-11-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
You can rewrite the yum configurations to point to the obsolete mirror, or pull down the RPMs directly from the obsolete mirror and use "rpm -U filename.rpm" to insall them locally. On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 5:00 PM Vinícius Ferrão <11d646aef28a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > You

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2021-10-25 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 9:00 AM Glenn Cooper wrote: > > CERN and Fermilab have been closely evaluating the Linux distribution > landscape. We observe that national cyber infrastructure organizations are > increasingly supporting more science domains, so in addition to LHC- or > HEP-specific

Re: google-chrome

2021-10-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 12:55 PM Stephen Isard wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:54:19 -0500, Mark Stodola > wrote: > > >On 10/22/21 9:40 AM, Stephen Isard wrote: > >> For the past couple of days, I've been getting > >> > >> -- > >> /etc/cron.daily/0yum-daily.cron: > >> > >>

Re: google-chrome

2021-10-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 10:52 AM Stephen Isard wrote: > > For the past couple of days, I've been getting > > -- > /etc/cron.daily/0yum-daily.cron: > > Failed to check for updates with the following error message: > Failed to build transaction:

Re: DHCP won't let me connect to the internet

2021-09-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 8:54 PM Montague Bestes <1024f7089807-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > Greetings, > > I have Scientific Linux release 4 Beryllium, on Dell studio slim desktop. I > use a android phone with USB tethering and a hard cable. The phone seems to > recognize the

Re: mount -t cifs ... -o username=... file_mode=0777 ignored

2021-08-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 2:10 AM Yasha Karant wrote: > > Although I was not involved with the specification of CIFS, nor with the > design or implementation of CIFS on open systems, I respectfully > disagree with at least some of your conclusions. In a top-down entity Then your demands should

Re: mount -t cifs ... -o username=... file_mode=0777 ignored

2021-08-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:21 AM Yasha Karant wrote: > > This is a poor design decision on the part of the Linux systems > implementers, as it breaks backward compatibility. There is no reason > that an "auto-translator" from CIFS to what has been used in > unix/BSD/linux for a very long time

Re: Disk reliability - and swap out`

2021-08-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:00 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 03:34:00PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: > > One SSD had an internal short and turned into a space heater, > > luckily there was no fire. End excerpt. > > > > Clearly, there is very poor safety engineering and/or

Re: timeshift

2021-08-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 2:48 PM ~Stack~ wrote: > > On 8/9/21 10:48 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: > > She wants an incremental backup system that uses a removable external > > drive, and that she can initiate (not time interval daemon driven), and > > that allows her to "find" a deleted file that she

Re: Back UP

2021-08-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:36 PM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > Cron is now broken so you can't scehedule reliable backups. > > This got broken in SL 6.9 worked in SL 6.5. > The reason is that it is looking for files from yum. Whot does yum have > to do

Re: timeshift

2021-08-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 1:19 AM Andrew Komornicki wrote: > > Hi, > > Have you considered just doing a tar on the /home directory on a > periodic basis, and just copy the tar file to a backup drive. Simple and > easy. > > regards, > Andrew "rsnapshot". Old, stable, and extremely effective at

Re: Scientific Linux Advice

2021-06-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
dW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=rDW_UqoIMxVYdmM513fB7o4yVU2fpoug7cRbAg2rbwY=oLvvFN4VDsdcWaNJmCZHx34di9JabfnVLk_y1w5NDts= , including the "sambarepo" to build up all the dependencies for modern Samba releases. Gentlemen, which tools specifically do you need ported? Can I point you at reasonable exa

Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability

2021-06-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 7:09 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 1:08 PM Dave Dykstra wrote: > > > > The installer gives choices for different levels of installs, and for > > partitioning. Of course you can always add packages later too. Try it

Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability

2021-06-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 1:08 PM Dave Dykstra wrote: > > The installer gives choices for different levels of installs, and for > partitioning. Of course you can always add packages later too. Try it. > > As in the past, upgrading a RHEL-based minor release can be done in > place but upgrading

Re: hard drive cloning

2021-05-12 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:57 AM Yasha Karant wrote: > > Quoting: > > Many open source and commercial cloning tools will do a *much* faster > and more efficient duplicate. End excerpt. > > I assume faster and efficient is by comparison to a drive cloning device > with two slots, one for the

Re: hard drive cloning

2021-05-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > I want to reduce the booting time interval and other disc access time > interval. I have a 2 TByte SSD drive that has the same physical form > factor as 2 Tbyte rotating media hard drive. I also have a device that > will accept each drive

Re: In search for a SL replacement

2021-05-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:47 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > From below: > > I get a consistent build with any of the three OS every time. > > Is Kickstart a mechanism to build (from source) an EL8 image that is > then bootable and installable? You *can* use it to build a base installation, or an

Re: In search for a SL replacement - almalinux

2021-05-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 5:10 PM ~Stack~ wrote: > > On 5/6/21 3:21 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: > > Excerpt from a previous post on this matter: > > > > On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 02:43 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > The misfeatures you've groused about are not due to A

Re: In search for a SL replacement - almalinux

2021-05-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:31 PM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > Another linux installation and test. > > AlmaLinux 8.3 The misfeatures you've groused about are not due to AlmaLinux, they're straight RHEL problems. Let's assign blame and credit where they

Re: c++17,17,20... - was Re: [SL-Users] Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-05-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:22 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 11:00:00PM +0100, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > > On Tue, 4 May 2021, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > > >- first slide of "distribution landscape" is nonsense, > > >with everybody stuck with el7 for another 3

Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-05-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
he community is worth a *lot* of brownie points. Nico Kadel-Garcia > We certainly understand the quandary you are now in and we deeply value the > work that you and the scientific (both capital S and lower-case) community > do. It is of utmost importance to humanity. Likewise, we can only begin

Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?

2021-05-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:35 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > Any news or updates on the status of CERN Linux? Many sysadmins are... unhappy about CentOS 8 Stream. The idea that CentOS is no longer a clone but instead the beta testing playground for RHEL has profoundly upset them. RHEL is

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Code bias video, watch it ASAP

2021-04-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 12:49 PM Queen, Steven Z. (GSFC-5910) <0eed424118a3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > I don't think this list is an appropriate place for political discussions. > Hopefully an administrator will intervene. > If this continues, I will unsubscribe. Sorry

Re: Code bias video, watch it ASAP

2021-04-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:24 AM LaToya Anderson wrote: > > Data does not remove bias. And one can and should both read the article and > watch the movie. > > STEM Academy Instructor Data rather than mere exposition helps prevent bias. How do you refute or counter unfair bias except with data?

Re: Code bias video, watch it ASAP

2021-04-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 6:22 AM Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > The movie is very strong on "feels", very poor indeed on data. > > > > A much better article, with far less "feels" >

Re: Code bias video, watch it ASAP

2021-04-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 4:32 AM Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > This may be off topic, but it concerns the code some of us > run on servers we build. It's offtopic. The URL's are hidden by "urldefense.proofpoint.com" services. The title of the web page is "Coded Bias", from an organization called

Re: Fwd: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.

2021-04-12 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
choosing between the full installation media, and setting up another VM or half another docker images. Nico Kadel-Garcia

Re: Fwd: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.

2021-04-12 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 11:40 AM Yasha Karant wrote: > > Perhaps someone can refresh my memory: under old EL, was the mirror > list statically built into the install package, dynamically loaded if an > Internet connection is available, or a mix of these two? I do not > recall having to type

Re: Fwd: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.

2021-04-12 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 5:23 AM Takashi Ichihara wrote: > >> My recollection of a fresh install of SL (it has been a number of years, > > and thus memory may be defective) is that SL provided a set of mirrors. > > Is one to assume that AL8 has no such mirrors or that AL8 network > > bootable

Re: sudo - was Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.

2021-04-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 3:12 AM Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, Yasha Karant wrote: > > > The major issue I find is that everything at the system level is sudo > > -- however, for Ubuntu, I have found the fixes so that I can become root and > > do what I need both from a text

Fwd: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.

2021-04-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
-- Forwarded message - From: Yasha Karant Date: Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:43 PM Subject: Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available. To: scientific-linux-users I have not downloaded (and thus not installed) AL8. From below: > My recollection of a fresh install of SL (it has been a number

Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.

2021-04-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 5:52 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:17AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > > AlmaLinux stable release is now available. > > > > Question is: but for how long? until red hat pulls a centos on them? > > P.S. > > My message is "FU!D". Fear,

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 8:31 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > To add. all official published results must be done using "official analysis", > and for the purposes of this discussion, said "official analysis" > often runs exclusively on RedHat-flavour linuxes. > > > > > Most HEP (and sometimes

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 4:09 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 06:27:07PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote: > > > > Has anyone tried the Institute for Advanced Study Springdale (IAS) > > EL 8 distro? > > > > What for? I have my "16 free RHEL subscriptions" to run my 1 el8 machine

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 4:23 AM Werf, C.G. van der (Carel) <135eeb68b6b6-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > Seems a recurring issue ... > > > > Any reason why >

Re: converting to RHEL8...

2021-02-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
r this, for switching from RHEL to CentOS to Scientific Linux and other combinations. Nico Kadel-Garcia

Re: Rhel 8

2021-01-24 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 12:14 AM Benson Muite wrote: > > On 1/24/21 9:37 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:26 AM Serguei Mokhov wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:00 AM Mark Rousell > >> wrote: > >>&g

Re: Rhel 8

2021-01-24 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:26 AM Serguei Mokhov wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:00 AM Mark Rousell > wrote: > > > > > BUT... the fact that SysVInit is seen as outdated is NOT a reason in and of > > itself to support SystemD. > > There may have been and, in many people's opinion, there

Re: Rhel 8

2021-01-24 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 9:20 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > I had not heard the history of SystemD in any detail. What, if any, > were the software engineering and design justifications for SystemD? I The unreliability of SysV init scripts, especially for dependent services, and the lack of

Re: arstechnica: "CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers"

2021-01-21 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:49 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:12 AM Serguei Mokhov wrote: > > > > arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/centos-is-gone-but-rhel-is-now-free-for-up-to-16-production-servers > > > > Thoughts? Someone noticed tha

Re: arstechnica: "CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers"

2021-01-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:12 AM Serguei Mokhov wrote: > > arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/centos-is-gone-but-rhel-is-now-free-for-up-to-16-production-servers > > Thoughts? > > -- > Serguei Mokhov

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 2:19 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > I fully agree concerning an engineering background. > > However, any good practitioner (with, like Heaviside, credentials > equivalent to both academic intellectual education and practical field > experience, irrespective of formal diplomata

Re: SL compared to Ubuntu LTS major release upgrade

2020-12-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 5:45 PM Dave Dykstra wrote: > > Hi Yasha, > > Yes this is one of the most significant differences between the Debian/ > dpkg/apt world and the Red Hat/SUSE/rpm/yum/dnf world. It's a > difference in philosophy and it is reflected in the tooling. There are > a lot more

Re: cernlib on SL7 ?

2020-11-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:17 PM Takashi Ichihara <0bb1532f2d0a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > On 2020/11/23 6:06, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 12:00 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > > The CentOS 7 compilation I just tried seems t

Re: cernlib on SL7 ?

2020-11-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 12:00 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > > On 11/21/20 7:53 AM, Takashi Ichihara wrote: > > Hi ALL, > > > > As you are well known, cernlib is supported in SL6 (RHEL6) as an > > official fedora EPEL project. > >

Re: cernlib on SL7 ?

2020-11-21 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
r0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=ysRuggsqGkiZRce_w0sLXP9nrpYuQHVN1onb6usRtUs=ez4U6KGsO7JKHf-XVTCTmt_bioOP-aqdjs0MtXCtDro= you're quite welcome to review and apply to cernlib. Nico Kadel-Garcia > Thank you for your information. > > Best regards, > Takashi Ichihara (RIKEN)

Re: SL 6

2020-10-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 2:37 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 12:39:13AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > > If you know the magic incantation to boot old SL/RHEL images (tarballs or > > > rsync's) > > > in a conta

Re: SL 6

2020-10-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 12:20 AM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > > > > > Is it "too hard" to provide a solution for the OP and for myself? How come > > > RHEL/SL/CentOS-8 does not come preinstalled with a package > > > to "boot an SL3/SL4/SL5/RHEL6/RHEL7 VM image now!". (Yes, we still have > >

Re: SL 6

2020-10-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:48 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > > > ... you have locked licenses for expensive old CAD software? > > ... vendor has failed to keep their software up to date with operating > > system releases ... > > ... not Scientific Linux's fault. > > > > Ah... the sound of

Re: how does yum prefer sl6x.repo over sl.repo?

2020-10-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 8:15 AM Teh, Kenneth M. <0864eace5c83-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > How does yum prefer sl6x.repo over sl.repo? Or, does it at all? Is there a > $releasever set to 6x squirreled away somewhere? The packages in sl6x repos generally have a higher version

Re: SL 6

2020-10-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 2:20 PM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > I would be interested in a contribution to help support this effort. > > We have a number of SL 6.9 boxes, we would stay there for a while as all > of our cad tools work. There are some

Re: cloning epel 6

2020-10-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
waHrGpcs_aVWk=uXM4ddtcoDIrq5-179IIHv0ciInGrsD3aON61YYHB14= Nico Kadel-Garcia > Have cc'd to SL list in case this gets routed to your junk folder. > > Thanks. > > Ken >

Re: SL6 firefox upgrade.

2020-10-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:19 PM Akemi Yagi wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 4:34 PM Franchisseur Robert > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > after firefox update from firefox-68.12.0-1 to firefox-78.3.0-1 there > > is no sound. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > >

Re: After 6.10 update - SAMBA - broken

2020-06-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:14 AM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > We liked how samba allow us to connect all systems. Now even the Win 8 > and 10 machines do not see any of the other systems. They all see the > other win machines but none of the linux

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] scientific.org

2020-06-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 10:48 AM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > What we did. > We commisioned a number of new boxes to Sl 6.10. We also updated our > server over the weekend. When we found out the server could not see > other boxes on our network. We

Re: off SL

2020-05-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:54 PM Troy Dawson wrote: > > Although in the past the official policy of Red Hat was that you needed to do > a fresh install going from EL N to N+1, that is starting to change. > There is an internal team called "LEAP" whose job it is to make sure you can > do that. >

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Mate for CentOS 8

2020-05-21 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:50 PM Akemi Yagi wrote: > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 12:56 PM Jose Marques wrote: >> >> > On 21 May 2020, at 20:45, Larry Linder >> > <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: >> > >> > We are going to upgrade servers to 6.9 and a workstations to 7.6 and

Re: Mate for CentOS 8

2020-05-19 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:29 PM Teh, Kenneth M. <0864eace5c83-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > This is probably heresy to you but I'll pitch it anyway. I'm also a terminal, > command line person, having started with AIX in '89, and VMS before that. > > I've been using Fedora with

Re: gscan2pdf

2020-05-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:15 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > On 5/18/20 4:54 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:13 AM Akemi Yagi wrote: > >> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 8:18 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > >>> I have found gscan2pdf on the N

Re: gscan2pdf

2020-05-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:13 AM Akemi Yagi wrote: > > On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 8:18 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > > > I have found gscan2pdf on the NUX repo, but installing this repo > > evidently will add and replace many utilities, etc., that may not be > > wise. gscan2pdf runs fine on Ubuntu 18

Re: gscan2pdf

2020-05-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
According to https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__rpm.pbone.net_=DwIBaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=9iY9vbldPrl8CaZ_wU9vHdlQb3eW3UhGVkQ25o99mOQ=nZW0rxkkEZVgHef3zxlB_O8BvNqyxtNIKnevmnasyJk= there is a CentOS 7 compatible

Re: Snaps

2020-04-25 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:38 AM Yasha Karant wrote: > Does anyone know how secure (safe, not malware, spyware, etc.) is Snaps? > Please see below. Certain applications that are not available for EL but > from other distros, particularly Ubuntu, evidently can be installed via > Snaps. Epel is a

Re: Revisiting Cent 8

2020-03-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 6:58 PM David Sommerseth wrote: > > On 17/03/2020 19:51, James M. Pulver wrote: > > I mostly hate the new network names, and I generally find that they're > > fixing something that was never broken for us, but I imagine there was some > > way you could get your eth*

Re: Revisiting Cent 8

2020-03-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:02 PM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > Boss asked us to take another look at Cent 8 because Cent 8 box in > corner was using an IP address that is in middle of several machine > tools. > > It had been running since oct 19 and we

Re: EL 8

2020-02-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:02 PM Mark Rousell wrote: > > On 03/02/2020 21:39, Stephan Wiesand wrote: > > On 3. Feb 2020, at 22:23, ONeal, Miles > <0be99a30c213-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > And there's no real reason to get the source from anywhere but RHEL, since > it's

Re: EL 8

2020-02-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 8:58 PM Pwillis wrote: > > Yeah, I know. > I make it seem more grave than it is maybe. > > Having used Linux since 1995-ish I have seen it progress from relative > obscurity into the mainstream. > In retrospect, it would seem there has been a lot of duplication of effort.

Re: EL 8

2020-02-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
I also know literally *no one* who uses "Oracle Unbreakable Linux"., nor are their RPMs listed at

Re: EL 8

2020-02-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 2:39 PM Stephan Wiesand wrote: > > > > On 1. Feb 2020, at 17:12, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > Oracle now owns and can still use the Red Hat trademarks. > > Er, what ?! I'm an idiot, it was a mistake.

Re: EL 8

2020-02-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 8:58 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > At this point in terms of application support for EL 7 (including SL 7) > from external entities (such as Calibre -- there are others), I am going > soon to be forced to go to another Linux. The options appear to be drop > EL entirely and

Re: Centos 8 last straw

2019-11-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:23 PM d tbsky wrote: > > Larry Linder > >1 more week and we have to reload SL 7.6 and give it up. Maybe we will > > try RH 9 in a few years. > > > > you should wait for at least RHEL 8.1, or 8.2 to try/use it. > current RHEL 8 is just to give you a feeling for next

Re: SL6 end of life

2019-09-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:49 PM David Sommerseth wrote: > > On 11/09/2019 13:46, Dobos, Tamas wrote: > > Dear Scientific Linux users/contributors, > > Our product is currently based on SL 6.10 and we are looking for the > > information whether it is possible to have long term support from

Re: SL6 end of life

2019-09-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 2:58 PM David Sommerseth wrote: > > On 06/09/2019 05:02, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 12:33 PM Jon Pruente > > wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 9:47 AM Larry Linder > >> wrote: > >

Re: SL6 end of life

2019-09-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 8:06 AM Teh, Kenneth M. wrote: > > "dns if not my friend." Nice! Arrrggh! auto-correction is not my friend! DNS is my friend, but it's also capitalized. dnf is not my friend, and I had to double type it to get it right.

Re: SL6 end of life

2019-09-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 12:33 PM Jon Pruente wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 9:47 AM Larry Linder > wrote: >> >> It is interesting that there is a new "yum" as an RPM but do you need to >> install it to install the rest of the .rpm packages on the RHEL 8. RPM >> pile. >> This looks like the

No Scientific Linux 8 planned?

2019-08-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
hope that the recent purchase of Red Hat by IBM is good for the work people have done and appreciated. Is there any plan to shut down these mailing lsists? It's been really quitet out there. Nico Kadel-Garcia

Re: Help with root password

2019-08-01 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
r and sudo into root?", see above, > machine is borked and does not accept login from normal user. > > > K.O. > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 01:52:35PM -0400, R P Herrold wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Jul 2019, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > >

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