Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Odyssey the Summer Fantasy Writing Workshop

2006-01-05 Thread Chris Hayden
Ah but they don't let everybody in Clarion. They don't have the space. You could never get into Clarion. They might decide you aren't Clarion material. They might be right. They might be wrong. If you can't go to Harvard you have to settle on one of the other Ivy League Colleges, not wait

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Odyssey the Summer Fantasy Writing Workshop

2006-01-05 Thread Chris Hayden
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Odyssey sounded interesting to me, but I didn't care for its apparent exclusive focus on fantasy -- I write both fantasy and sci-fi, and a bit of slippy/interstitial. Where did I get the idea that you wuz a Fantasy hand?

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Need some new eyes on a short story

2006-01-05 Thread Chris Hayden
I'll take a look at it. Can you email it to me? --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys: I wanted to rework a short story for the Devotion antho. The Gleaners. It's a favorite story but one which has gone sadly awry. I don't know what to make of it.

[SciFiNoir Lit] Violence in Sci Fi

2006-01-05 Thread Chris Hayden
One thing I noted while reading Illium and Olympos was the violence that fairly dripped from the pages of the books. It got so that after awhile I was numb and desensitized--I remember being relieved when a sympathetic character was horribly killed at the hands of a monster. I began to note

RE: [SciFiNoir Lit] Odyssey the Summer Fantasy Writing Workshop

2006-01-05 Thread Nora
Last I heard, Odyssey was just as selective as Clarion. It's very much the same as Clarion, just different in its focus (fantasy) and format (novels and shorts). Nora -Original Message- From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hayden Sent:

[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: Need some new eyes on a short story

2006-01-05 Thread Carole McDonnell
Hi Chris: Thanks so much! Will email it to the belsidus2000 address unless you want it mailed to some other addy. Basically, tell me what the main character's issue is...and who are the main characters. Is it about third world poverty? Is it about lost souls? Is it about forgivemess? Is it

RE: [SciFiNoir Lit] Odyssey the Summer Fantasy Writing Workshop

2006-01-05 Thread Nora
-Original Message- From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hayden --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Odyssey sounded interesting to me, but I didn't care for its apparent exclusive focus on fantasy -- I

[SciFiNoir Lit] Their Eyes Were Reading Smut

2006-01-05 Thread Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\)
January 4, 2006 Op-Ed Contributor Their Eyes Were Reading Smut By NICK CHILES http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/04/opinion/04chiles.html?emc=eta1 Snellville, Ga. LAST month I happened to go into the Borders Books store at the Stonecrest mall in Lithonia, Ga., about a half-hour from my house here. To

Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Their Eyes Were Reading Smut

2006-01-05 Thread La Tricia Ransom
ah yes, but they're reading ... even tho i don't read the genre he's ranting about, i resent the snobbery inherent in his lament. first writers complain we don't read, then when we do, don't like *what* we read. what constitutes smut? literature? is scifi/fantasy smut or lit? he not careful, he