Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

Hi, The history log is not down, but it moved, to this URL: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23semantic-mediawiki/ Hopefully someone can change the URL in the message - it has been incorrect for years now, which I'm sure has caused a lot of confusion. I have no strong opinion on the

Re: [SMW-devel] Getting the html code of a wiki page in a maintenance script through the use of Parser.php

Hi Viktor, Someone may answer your question here, but if not, I would suggest writing the mediawiki-l mailing list instead, since it seems to just be a core MediaWiki question. -Yaron On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Viktor wrote: > Dear developers, > > > I’m having

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SRF: Timeline and Histopedia

display of pictures on the timeline, > which of course is also nice to have. > > cheers, > Bernhard > > - Am 4. Okt 2016 um 15:09 schrieb Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com>: > > > Hi Bernhard, > > Could you enumerate what features you would ideally like to

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SRF: Timeline and Histopedia

Hi Bernhard, Could you enumerate what features you would ideally like to see in a timeline format? The Exhibit Timeline library, which is used by SMW (and, let me note, by Cargo as well), is indeed old and poorly-maintained, but it still works fine. I'm guessing that you would also prefer the

Re: [SMW-devel] ApprovedRevs + SMW

That's certainly not intended behavior. Is the page displaying correctly, i.e. blank? And can you find by searching on its contents from Special:Search? (Hopefully not.) Also, I'd recommend upgrading to the latest Approved Revs version, 0.7.1 - who knows, that might be a bug that got fixed. On

Re: [SMW-devel] Set SMW property in extension

Hi, James - note that this is the SMW developers mailing list; I don't think that question is too technical for here. (GitHub might be the better place for it, but I don't want to scare anyone off this list.) -Yaron On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:26 AM, James HK wrote:

[SMW-devel] Fwd: [MediaWiki-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Join the Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016

Seems pretty interesting... I assume this will focus mostly on core MediaWiki and WMF software like VisualEditor and Flow, but apparently not exclusively. -Yaron -- Forwarded message -- From: Quim Gil Date: Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:52 AM Subject: [MediaWiki-l]

Re: [SMW-devel] Set a SMW property programmatically in PHP?

Hi Jason, If you're talking about making a change to the semantic data of a page that is not reflected in that page's wikitext, that sounds like a bad idea - the new data would be removed as soon as the page was edited and saved again. -Yaron On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Jason Ji

Re: [SMW-devel] SemanticForms - formredlink - link text ignored when target exists

it? Greetings Hermann On 05/29/2015 12:49 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi Hermann, That was done on purpose - the idea was that #formredlink has two different behaviors, depending on whether or not the page in question exists. If it doesn't, then of course you see a red link, pointing

Re: [SMW-devel] SemanticForms - formredlink - link text ignored when target exists

Hi Hermann, That was done on purpose - the idea was that #formredlink has two different behaviors, depending on whether or not the page in question exists. If it doesn't, then of course you see a red link, pointing to a form, with text that possibly looks like Create this page. If it does, then

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo's page values link

necessarily a reason for doing the same thing with Cargo. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:22 PM, John McClure jmccl...@hypergrove.com wrote: It would be nice if it only showed on pages for which it applies - is that possible? On 4/3/2015 1:20 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi, Er... no? I didn't think

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo's page values link

Hi, Er... no? I didn't think it was a big deal; it's an exact analogue of SMW's browse properties link. -Yaron Is it necessary that Cargo clutter all pages in a wiki with a page values link? -- thanks/john skype:hypergrove

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo syntax

Actually, #cargo_declare follows the standard syntax for MediaWiki parser functions - usually, either all the parameters are named, or none of them are. #ask is an exception, and #subobject is the very rare exception where the first parameter is often blank (i.e., your last example). -Yaron On

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo issues

, that is it doesn't matter which, then is this constraint you're imposing actually necessary? thanks On 3/31/2015 11:00 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: Oh, I missed your other question - Cargo is built around templates; they are responsible for storing data, so it made sense to put both the table declaration

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo issues

Oh, I missed your other question - Cargo is built around templates; they are responsible for storing data, so it made sense to put both the table declaration and the table storage go into the template page. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi John, How

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo issues

Hi John, How does the absence of the main MediaWiki DB prefix affect the running of the wiki farm - are you using one database for all the wikis, with a different table prefix for each? And why do you want leading underscores in Cargo table names? -Yaron On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:17 PM, John

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo syntax

{{#cargo_declare: tablename}} would seem to be an easy solution. thanks/john On 3/31/2015 12:46 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: Actually, #cargo_declare follows the standard syntax for MediaWiki parser functions - usually, either all the parameters are named, or none of them are. #ask is an exception

Re: [SMW-devel] queryformlink, input type

Hi Erika, When you use link type=button, it creates a form tag within the HTML, and I'm guessing that it in some way conflicts with the overall form tag of the query form. I don't know why you're linking to a query form from within a query form, but I guess that's a separate issue. -Yaron On

Re: [SMW-devel] queryformlink, input type

way using {{{standard input|cancel}}} but when I inserted it to the form, it did not make any changes, neither the {{{standard input|changes}}} . Do I need to change other things on the form to make it work? Or I completely misunderstand something? Erika On 2015-03-26 13:57, Yaron Koren

Re: [SMW-devel] Add Another stopped working

, referring to ret.nodeValue being null and on the left side of an assignment. Sal -- From: Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com Sent: ‎11/‎13/‎2014 10:45 AM To: Sal Quintanilla salqu...@gmail.com Cc: Semantic MediaWiki developers semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.referata.org vs. smw.org (Was: Exclude specific pages from query or #Concept?)

Hi, There's actually not that much overlap between smw.referata.com and semantic-mediawiki.org at the moment. smw.referata.com contains pages on the following: - People who use or develop SMW - Companies that use or work with SMW - Sites that use SMW - Events that have an SMW component -

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Embedded Special:RunQuery creates strange charaters

Hi, Just to clarify, this is not related to the TreeAndMenu extension, which is not installed on Referata. Rather, the issue is that there was a change in the Semantic Forms code around (I think) six months ago, that changed the way forms were parsed - it improved some things, but had the

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] MediaWiki Job queue problem

Hi, I believe the issue is the job_attempts field in the job table. I believe each job is only attempted a certain number of times before MediaWiki basically just gives up and ignores it. My guess is that that column is greater than 0 for all the rows in the table; I think if you just go into the

Re: [SMW-devel] Accessing Semantic Forms fields from within form input

, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, Oh... that's a lot of files! Yes, that kind of autocomplatetion might require some kind of custom Javascript solution. Although, if the goal is to have a wiki page for each of those files, another option is to just create

Re: [SMW-devel] Accessing Semantic Forms fields from within form input

wrote: Hi! This part I know. But I meant the javascript side - how the current value is loaded there? Is there a method that allows me to retrieve the current template field value whil I'm in js? - Yury Katkov On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi

Re: [SMW-devel] Accessing Semantic Forms fields from within form input

Hi Yury, (First, it doesn't matter that much, but this question should probably have been sent to the SMW users list.) You didn't explicitly say it, but I'm guessing that (a) the set of file names to be autocompleted on is all the files contained in that file server, and (b) this information is

Re: [SMW-devel] Accessing Semantic Forms fields from within form input

call to an api with our current field values as the parameters. for now I will try to solve this with javascript extension that listens the blur() action and the REST-API that is responsible for delivering the information - Yury Katkov On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Yaron Koren ya

Re: [SMW-devel] usage of values from URL

Hi Yury, You should replace substr in that URL with substr - that might just be the issue. However, I should note that we're currently, as part of Jatin Mehta's Google Summer of Code project on SF autocompletion, working on improving autocompletion on external values. Right now the setup is

Re: [SMW-devel] usage of values from URL

... I don't need any parameters, try to click on the link - it produces perfect results. - Yury Katkov On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, You should replace substr in that URL with substr - that might just be the issue. However, I should

Re: [SMW-devel] usage of values from URL

at 5:50 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Oops, sorry, you're right - it's the string new in the URL that you should replace with substr. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yaron! You should replace substr in that URL with substr

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

Hi James, I'm not a huge fan of such interdependencies (and AdminLinks is no exception). This seems like the most overriding of your objections. Could you elaborate on it? -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

Hi Yury, On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yaron! I think that for SiteSettings this patch could make sense although I'm strongly against such interdependencies between extensions (after trying to contribute to PageSchemas) Could you expand on

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

- but that of course is a matter of opinion. Like with any software, there's always room for improvement. -Yaron On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, On Wed, Jul 16

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

...@hypergrove.com wrote: On 7/15/2014 7:25 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: Semantic MediaWiki already hooks into the first two: Admin Links via a function, and Page Schemas with a class. Hi Yaron - What function/class are those. Also, i happened to review PS extension's DTD - has it changed? ?xml

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

Hi Jeroen, Unfortunately, there isn't yet a public example of an extension that hooks into Site Settings - if this potential code gets into SMW, SMW could become the first. But the basic idea is that the class would contain various static methods, each of which was called by a different Site

[SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

Hi, There are three extensions of mine that take a similar approach, where they provide a generic framework and other extensions add their own specific functionality in via hooks: Admin Links, Page Schemas and Site Settings. Semantic MediaWiki already hooks into the first two: Admin Links via a

Re: [SMW-devel] Game wikis

. best/john On 7/9/2014 7:09 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi Peter, On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Peter Brooks peter.bro...@kchclinics.com wrote: I'm trying to think about this in a more semantic way. Surely, part of the point of semantics is to allow rules to be governed by them. If I could

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Namespaces

Hi Peter, On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Peter Brooks peter.bro...@kchclinics.com wrote: I'm trying to think about this in a more semantic way. Surely, part of the point of semantics is to allow rules to be governed by them. If I could create a property, say

Re: [SMW-devel] Rating system

Hi Ben, It's not clear to me that this would require any development work. It seems to me that you could have an approach like the following: - Have a separate page for each vote; it could be structured as a subpage of the user page, or a subpage of the canyon page, or something else - so it

Re: [SMW-devel] Looking for help with developing SMW customizations

Hi Lech, Since we're already on the subject, would you be willing to share what kind of customizations you'd like to do? It may be helpful for you, and for everyone else, to discuss your ideas here before getting heavily into code development. As noted in the SMW FAQ [1], it could be that such a

Re: [SMW-devel] Looking for help with developing SMW customizations

to add or edit a few more properties, templates and forms to the wiki. There also improvements needed to the development/deployment process - we are running dev/test/production instances of the wiki and we need better sync etc. Regards, Lech On 2 May 2014 14:22, Yaron Koren ya

[SMW-devel] Google Summer of Code: SMW projects wanted

Hi everyone, The Google Summer of Code process has already begun. SMW projects will once again be done via the Wikimedia Foundation (that is, we're not trying to apply separately, unlike in some previous years). This year the GSoC schedule is earlier than I think it's ever been - the list of

Re: [SMW-devel] Google Summer of Code: SMW projects wanted - Properties Edit-Tables

Hi, I agree that SMW probably couldn't be used by itself for this, and that Semantic Forms makes more sense. Thankfully, though, I don't need to create a proof of concept for this opinion, because one already exists. :) In 2011, Christoph Tempich created this demo, showing how Semantic Forms -

[SMW-devel] Allowing for disabling SMW and other Composer-installed extensions

Hi, There was a thread about a week ago on the semediawiki-user mailing list, called Howto install SMW using git?, that became a discussion about a number of things, including why there should be a way to disable extensions installed via Composer. I suggested using one or more global variables

Re: [SMW-devel] Allowing for disabling SMW and other Composer-installed extensions

composer so that wikifarm code can load extensions in the conventional way. If I missed something, please correct! Thanks/john On 1/27/2014 6:45 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi, There was a thread about a week ago on the semediawiki-user mailing list, called Howto install SMW using git?, that became

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW no longer works with a manual LinksUpdate call?

/20/14, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi, The Approved Revs extension no longer seems to work with Semantic MediaWiki 1.9 - someone pointed that out on the mailing list a few months ago, and I finally tested it out and confirmed the problem. Basically, when an administrator

Re: [SMW-devel] Making SMW semver.org compliant

Hi, It sounds like your real question is, Shouldn't we have changed to 2.0 already? :) I don't know the answer to that, but I can't imagine anyone would object to increasing the version number to 2.0, 3.0 etc. if/when it makes sense to do that. (I don't think avoiding a 1.10, 1.11 etc. is by

Re: [SMW-devel] Form edit with multiple templates limit

can be passed on submission. But so far, I haven’t been able to find the setting that could help me change that limit. If you’ve got any more hints you can suggest on what I should be looking for, I’d appreciate it. Thanks. Happy New Year everyone. Sal *From:* Yaron Koren [mailto:ya

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Annotating in SMW

, WikiVote On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Bernhard, This seems like a case of the when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail principle. :) If the extension used - whether it's Annotator or anything else - is keeping

Re: [SMW-devel] Form edit with multiple templates limit

Hi Sal, A few variations on this question have come up on the mailing lists recently. SF itself doesn't impose any limits - but PHP and/or Javascript have their own natural limits, PHP by limiting the number of fields whose value can be passed when the form is submitted, and Javascript by slowing

Re: [SMW-devel] Offline Semantic Forms

Hi Benedikt, It could be that there's some wording confusion: by offline, did you really just mean private? It sounds like what you're talking about is people submitting data, via the internet/web, that then gets put into an external server - only one that requires a password to access; as

Re: [SMW-devel] Error in form editing when coordinates are blank

Hi Benjamin, I, too, have experienced this problem, on a wiki that uses Semantic Maps 2.0. However, it doesn't happen on semantic-mediawiki.org, which is running Semantic Maps 3.0 alpha. Thus, I assume the bug has been fixed already (although on a version that hasn't yet been officially

Re: [SMW-devel] Subsection headings cripple content parsing?

Hi Ben, Wow, great! I believe this is the first real-world usage that I've seen of the new section feature in Semantic Forms. (It was added in version 2.6, about a month ago.) Unfortunately, it's accompanied by the first-ever bug report. :) Your diagnosis is correct - the subsections within that

Re: [SMW-devel] Subsection headings cripple content parsing?

wiki and look forward to finding out whether the subsection fix would be easy. If it isn't, I'll see if I can dig in to changing it myself. Does SF have a bug reporting system for me to list this bug in? Thanks once more for all the responses! On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Yaron Koren ya

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Videos and slides for the first SMWCon day

Hi, On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! The first day of the conference is online! You can watch the videos and slides for every one of the talks. That's great! The videos look good. I especially recommend you to watch the following

Re: [SMW-devel] ajax=true - thinking about new global parameter for all Result Formats

Hi, Before we get too deep into the technical side of things, let me take a step back: Ajax, for those who don't know, is a technology where parts of the page can be modified, based on new data from the server, without needing to refresh the whole page. As far as I know, there are two advantages

Re: [SMW-devel] ajax=true - thinking about new global parameter for all Result Formats

I meant why bother instead of why both before, by the way. -- DreamFactory - Open Source REST JSON Services for HTML5 Native Apps OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access Free app hosting. Or

Re: [SMW-devel] OWA problem?

Hi John, MediaWiki is a CMS, and so is MW + SMW - first and foremost, it's a way to manage content. Also, please keep the discussion civil - even if you think someone's being uncivil to you, the best approach is to de-escalate and focus on the issues. -Yaron On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:36 PM,

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

suitable for this. What's more, they just closed the SMW Stockholm group, by unspecifically referring to http://help.meetup.com/customer/portal/articles/865536 :( // Samuel On 2013-11-06 17:03, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi, I'm not aware of meetup.com http://meetup.com being used

[SMW-devel] Wikimedia Foundation accepted to Google Code-In

Hi everyone, If you don't know about Google Code-In, it's a spinoff project of the Google Summer of Code, where high school students (instead of college students) work on a bunch of small several-hour tasks (instead of one large project). The Wikimedia Foundation applied to be a mentoring

Re: [SMW-devel] Query result rewrite

Well, yes, that's what I meant - though I guess it depends on (a) how likely this new code is to stay in SMW in its current form, (b) when it would be released as part of a stable version, and (c) how different this new interface is from the current one. But my vote would still be to teach the old

Re: [SMW-devel] Query result rewrite

Hi, Well, you make a strong case. And no, I think doing a result format makes a lot of sense. Good luck! -Yaron On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, The point of this workshop is not to teach people SMW interfaces. The amount of ground that

Re: [SMW-devel] Specific questions | Re: Current status and future plans of (REST) API:s and import in SMW?

Hi Samuel, Sorry that I'm not answering any of your questions, but I wanted to clarify something. My understanding of RDFIO is as follows: it takes in triples that might look like: Joe Average foaf:phone 123-4567 For such a triple, it would then find the page on the wiki called Joe Average, and

Re: [SMW-devel] Gerrit #84744: Disable type enforcement for properties with names equal to type names

Hi Vitaliy, I'm not a core SMW developer, so there's not much I can do on this issue; but maybe there are some SMW developers reading this, who can at least express an opinion on the subject. Anyone? On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:37 PM, vita...@yourcmc.ru wrote: I agree with you here. I don't

Re: [SMW-devel] Gerrit #84744: Disable type enforcement for properties with names equal to type names

Hi Vitaliy, I agree with you here. I don't think backwards compatibility is a compelling reason to keep the property-name-dictates-type feature. I don't believe there are that many wikis that have such a property defined without an associated type - and conversely, we know of a few wikis where

Re: [SMW-devel] SFFormLinker::setBrokenLink is doing what?

Hi, It's been quite a while since I looked into the red-link handling, and I don't remember what the difference is between the queries (they both call SMW code to do the actual querying), but from what I recall it was a pretty significant performance difference. It would be easy to add a setting

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Error with SIO and SF

Hi Bernhard, You've uncovered a bug in SF (it's not related at all to SIO) - the presence of -Adressen.Bezirk (specifically, the first -) is messing up the process of associating template fields with properties. There's an easy fix, although unfortunately for some reason there's an issue right

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Status of faceted search for SMW

Hi Yury, There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that don't require any patches: - The Semantic Drilldown extension - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms - The filtered result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it still works, though I don't know)

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: SMWPageSchemas in SMW core (1.9)

Hi, I didn't know whether you were serious about splitting off the SMW PS class into its own extension, but clearly you are - and you might want other functionality split off as well, like maybe an #info tag extension. I don't know whether it's worth having a full discussion about the philosophy

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: SMWPageSchemas in SMW core (1.9)

Wow... I don't know if there's ever been such quick consensus on a topic on this list. Evidently that Page Schemas class has been bugging people for a long time. :) Yury wrote: I remember Yaron have explained that it's a legacy remained from some kind of global plan of making PageSchemas the

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: SMWPageSchemas in SMW core (1.9)

Hi, On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, Wow... I don't know if there's ever been such quick consensus on a topic on this list. Yes, you have won of badge of some sorts :) I'm not even sure what a global plan is. :) Ah, of course you would

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: SMWPageSchemas in SMW core (1.9)

.= Type: . Xml::tags( 'select', $propertyDropdownAttrs, $select_body ) . /p\n; Cheers On 8/8/13, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, Wow... I don't know if there's ever been such quick

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and the HotCat gadget

Hi Ryan, What do you mean by SMW friendly? -Yaron On Jun 28, 2013 1:07 PM, Ryan Glasnapp ryan.glasn...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone aware of a SMW friendly version of the HotCat gadget? Thanks! --Ryan -- This

Re: [SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered

their own name and identity, while in SIO, they're really only attributes of the page on which they're defined. -Yaron On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Stephan Gambke s7ep...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 June 2013 20:32, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: As for whether storing the index, whether

[SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered

Hi, The other thread about #subobject and #set_internal reminded me that I've been meaning to ask about this: Currently #subobject names all the subobjects it creates in the form Page name#hash (I referred to the hash previously, incorrectly, as a random string). There's a problem with this

Re: [SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered

Hi Alexey, Yes, that's a good point - I actually thought about an approach like that, but forgot to include it in the email. A property called Sort (a name like Has index might be a little clearer) would solve this problem - and it would be a more semantic solution. On the other hand, it would

Re: [SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered

does not explicitly contain the sequence number for the activities, then your model is incomplete, not SMW. In fact, should two activities be exactly the same, you will probably lose one of them. Cheers, Stephan On Jun 20, 2013 5:30 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Alexey, Yes

Re: [SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered

20, 2013 7:02 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Stephan - you make some good points. As far as displaying the number/index in queries - that sounds interesting, though even a separate Has index property might not necessarily be ideal for that. If you have two or more different kinds

Re: [SMW-devel] smw.org hooks namespace

Hi, Since you don't want to have a long bikeshed, I'll keep it short. :) I don't like the idea of having a different namespace for each page type; it seems unnecessarily complicated. If you like that specific naming structure, you could always just start page names with Hooks:, without the need

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Turning uploadable into input type=upload

Hi, It would be great to have an interface like that in SF - that kind of thing shows up in web forms a lot, including in the new Gmail interface, when adding email addresses. (I would like to see that kind of interface in SF for regular autocompletion too, but that's another story.) I think this

Re: [SMW-devel] images as property values in PageSchemas

$0.02. Jamie Thingelstad http://www.thingelstad.com/ ja...@thingelstad.com mobile: 612-810-3699 find me on AIM Twitter http://twitter.com/thingles Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/thingles LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/jthingelstad On May 7, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Yaron Koren ya

Re: [SMW-devel] images as property values in PageSchemas

://www.facebook.com/thingles LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/jthingelstad On May 7, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi, What about my suggestion? I'm also curious if anyone else has an opinion on having uploadable fields add the File: to file names. This would

Re: [SMW-devel] images as property values in PageSchemas

the usecase further. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, Yes, that's what I was proposing before, but I'm no longer proposing it. :) -Yaron On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.comwrote

[SMW-devel] [SF] Turning uploadable into input type=upload

...@thingelstad.com mobile: 612-810-3699 find me on AIM Twitter http://twitter.com/thingles Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/thingles LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/jthingelstad On May 8, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: I suppose that's true... although in practice I've

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Turning uploadable into input type=upload

autocompletion functons. Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi, I'm turning this into another thread, since I think it's unrelated to the original topic - I believe the namespace issue is the same regardless of the form field syntax. I

Re: [SMW-devel] images as property values in PageSchemas

Hi Yury, Hm, that's true... I hadn't thought of that. Some checkbox could be added to the Page Schemas form, but maybe the better solution is just to have uploadable fields in SF start adding a File: to the beginning of file names they've uploaded. It's something that various people have asked

Re: [SMW-devel] images as property values in PageSchemas

to edit forms and templates very quicky. Now the editing of the schema slows because I have to look up tag parameters. More buttons, dropdowns and checkboxes could speed up the editing process. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] plans on integrating VisualEditor with Semantic Forms

Hi Yury, I would definitely like to see SF support VisualEditor, whether it's me or someone else adding that support. I wasn't aware that VisualEditor was being used yet on Wikipedia (other than I guess in demo areas), or even that it was in a usable state. Where is it being used? -Yaron On

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] plans on integrating VisualEditor with Semantic Forms

6, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, I would definitely like to see SF support VisualEditor, whether it's me or someone else adding that support. I wasn't aware that VisualEditor was being used yet on Wikipedia (other than I guess in demo areas), or even

Re: [SMW-devel] Multilingual Semantic MediaWiki

Hi Niklas, This sounds like a great idea. I can't really help, since I would think the majority of the challenge would be in getting SMW queries to recognize different property names as equivalent, so I would think this would require assistance or at least advice from a core SMW developer; but

Re: [SMW-devel] [SIO] Querying internal object properties

Hi, This seems like a bad hack. I assume this is part of your effort to have the page store the usernames of all its contributors? If so, the Semantic Extra Special Properties extension may be the better approach - I believe it stores that information using the Page author property:

Re: [SMW-devel] [SIO] Querying internal object properties

Special Properties and s13n approach. I guess there's no easier way to do it, rigth? Cheers, Marcelo. 2013/4/21 Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com Hi, This seems like a bad hack. I assume this is part of your effort to have the page store the usernames of all its contributors? If so

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Wikitech-l discussion / Is SMW a bloated piece of software ?

Hi, Thanks for the Semantic Forms appreciation. Just to clarify, though, the person you quoted is trueskew, not James HK. -Yaron On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Al Johnson alj62...@yahoo.com wrote: +1 All of that said, I would never select Mediawiki / Semantic Mediawiki if Semantic Forms

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Wikitech-l discussion / Is SMW a bloated piece of software ?

I've been following the discussion over there, though I haven't gotten involved (though it seems to have died down by now). A lot of the resistance to SMW is part of a longstanding dislike, or at least lack of understanding, of SMW among core MediaWiki developers; though as Niklas points out, it

Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic forms using variables in more than one template

Hi Mary, The easiest approach is to just have that template query the other values, using #show. -Yaron On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Beebe, Mary J bee...@battelle.org wrote: We have a form using more than one template. One of the templates is like an info-box. It displays all of the

Re: [SMW-devel] Tag for SB in git?

Hi Dan, Yes, a lot of what you're talking about (and discovering, I guess) was discussed in two email threads yesterday, on the semediawiki-user list. It would indeed be nice if the remaining untagged extensions were tagged, and if SB started to have tagging as well. It wouldn't make a huge

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

Hi Stephan, There are a number of points to discuss here. In our case, I think long-term support really refers to two things: support for older versions of MediaWiki, and support for older versions of SMW. I don't know if everyone's aware of it, but the WMF people have actually declared MediaWiki

Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic Bundle and MW tarball

Hi Mark, It sounds like a good idea to me. What version of MediaWiki would you want to start with - 1.20 (the current version), I assume? And where do you think it makes sense to host and document these packages? -Yaron On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Mark A. Hershberger

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

of tagging and compatibility is definitely appreciated! -Yaron On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Stephan Gambke s7ep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yaron, On 02/25/2013 07:24 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: As to creating new Semantic Bundles on the fly that match some criteria - i.e., using some set of Git tags

Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic Bundle and MW tarball

also wondering what the criteria are for an extension to be part of the SMW bundle? thanks - john On 25.02.2013 12:01, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: On Mon 25 Feb 2013 02:12:41 PM EST, Yaron Koren wrote: It sounds like a good idea to me. What version of MediaWiki would you want to start

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