James deployed as plugin on Geronimo!

2007-02-01 Thread David Woldrich
Do I have your attention yet? :) I just installed ApacheDS, which is the new Apache LDAP java server, in about 50 seconds as a plugin INSIDE my Geronimo server using the deployer tool and a .car file I downloaded from http://geronimoplugins.com. The mind boggling implications of this new

[jira] Created: (JAMES-773) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/avalon/cornerstone/services/connection/AbstractHandlerFactory

2007-02-01 Thread Pradeep (JIRA)
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/avalon/cornerstone/services/connection/AbstractHandlerFactory Key: JAMES-773 URL:

Re: James deployed as plugin on Geronimo!

2007-02-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/1/07, David Woldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I have your attention yet? :) you have mine i'm not an expert but i'll try an initial response I just installed ApacheDS, which is the new Apache LDAP java server, in about 50 seconds as a plugin INSIDE my Geronimo server using the

Re: James deployed as plugin on Geronimo!

2007-02-01 Thread Stefano Bagnara
robert burrell donkin wrote: but just running probably isn't enough. probably want to be able to integrate other services and this is where things become a little more difficult. ATM the database implementation uses torque. you'd probably want to hack a alternative implementation using JPA POJOs

[jira] Commented: (JAMES-773) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/avalon/cornerstone/services/connection/AbstractHandlerFactory

2007-02-01 Thread Stefano Bagnara (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-773?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12469516 ] Stefano Bagnara commented on JAMES-773: --- Well, we of course run james without this exception or we wouldn't

Re: James deployed as plugin on Geronimo!

2007-02-01 Thread David Woldrich
Hi Robert, snip and I want a lot more. I want mail and news servers in Geronimo too, and I want mailets that can call local EJB's that I can redeploy at will (or perhaps even make local EJB's that are themselves mailets.) mailets that are EJB sounds better than calling EJBs from mailets

Re: James deployed as plugin on Geronimo!

2007-02-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/1/07, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: but just running probably isn't enough. probably want to be able to integrate other services and this is where things become a little more difficult. ATM the database implementation uses torque. you'd probably

Re: James deployed as plugin on Geronimo!

2007-02-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/1/07, David Woldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robert, snip and I want a lot more. I want mail and news servers in Geronimo too, and I want mailets that can call local EJB's that I can redeploy at will (or perhaps even make local EJB's that are themselves mailets.) mailets that

Re: James deployed as plugin on Geronimo!

2007-02-01 Thread Stefano Bagnara
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 2/1/07, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: but just running probably isn't enough. probably want to be able to integrate other services and this is where things become a little more difficult. ATM the database implementation

Re: James deployed as plugin on Geronimo!

2007-02-01 Thread David Woldrich
Hey Stefano, Maybe this helps: http://wiki.apache.org/james/Embedded Maybe the spring integration stuff make it even simpler by skipping phoenix at all. I don't remember specific showstoppers, but feel free to submit them if you try and find something. I often hear Spring discussed in

Re: [IMAP] Refactoring to messaging API, MINA style

2007-02-01 Thread Stefano Bagnara
robert burrell donkin wrote: i found time over the last week or two to take a look at MINA and understand better the words it uses. i now suspect that we've been working towards similar architectures from different perspectives. [...] opinions? The diagram is almost standard MINA setup. +1 for

Re: James deployed as plugin on Geronimo!

2007-02-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/1/07, David Woldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Stefano, Maybe this helps: http://wiki.apache.org/james/Embedded Maybe the spring integration stuff make it even simpler by skipping phoenix at all. I don't remember specific showstoppers, but feel free to submit them if you try and

Re: [IMAP] Refactoring to messaging API, MINA style

2007-02-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/1/07, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: i found time over the last week or two to take a look at MINA and understand better the words it uses. i now suspect that we've been working towards similar architectures from different perspectives. [...]

Re: [IMAP] Refactoring to messaging API, MINA style

2007-02-01 Thread Stefano Bagnara
robert burrell donkin wrote: It seems you/we would like to replace the protocol handling with MINA, to change the spooling architecture, to rewrite the storage, to remove avalon or at least phoenix and so on. Maybe starting a whole new effort would be much better than keep trying moving

Re: [IMAP] Refactoring to messaging API, MINA style

2007-02-01 Thread Serge Knystautas
On 2/1/07, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not sure that is necessary: it should be possible (given modularisation) to work within the existing frameworks. - robert If this is not necessary I'm even happier: we'll have a better overview once the new component is ready, so go

Re: AW: RESTful email [WAS Re: MailboxManager API and session orientation was: Jsieve Configuration]

2007-02-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1/31/07, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the resources that i think are of interest are emails, meta-data about emails, collections of emails and meta-data about collections of emails. these concepts already have natural correspondents in HTTP and WebDAV U/F it looks like

Re: AW: RESTful email [WAS Re: MailboxManager API and session orientation was: Jsieve Configuration]

2007-02-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
You know who is doing this really successfully and even made it a key upselling point? I imagine there are even performance numbers for it. I know I'm speaking heresy... had a talk with some of the DAV folks last year. AIUI the right way to do it would be to standardize a small amount of

Re: [IMAP] Refactoring to messaging API, MINA style

2007-02-01 Thread Norman Maurer
Serge Knystautas schrieb: On 2/1/07, Stefano Bagnara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not sure that is necessary: it should be possible (given modularisation) to work within the existing frameworks. - robert If this is not necessary I'm even happier: we'll have a better overview once the