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> On Jun 28, 2019, at 9:49 AM, cryptearth <cryptea...@cryptearth.de> wrote:
> 
> Hey Jason,
> 
> glad to hear you got it working. I suggest you set authRequired to "announce" 
> as some clients don't auth correctly if it's required but not announced in 
> options after EHLO, as I recently discovered with JavaMail API (for what ever 
> reason). Strangely, as JavaMail is the base for most android mail apps, it 
> seems android uses a modified version as it always auth correctly no matter 
> if james is set to "true" or "announce". Or maybe it was a bug with the 
> testcode I used, don't know.
> 
> About google keeps classify your mails as spam: have a look at 
> https://mxtoolbox.com/ and https://tools.dnsstuff.com/ - these sites can help 
> to find issues and offer lots of test tools. They both offer services for 
> domain-name, hostname and IP. Also a look at "raw message" in gmail shows 
> wich spam-checks fails - wich in combine with mx-toolbox and dns-stuff can 
> help a lot to get issues fixed. If you want I can try help you to resolve 
> them, as I went through many myself as I set up my own domain and mailserver 
> back in 2015. Learned a lot since.
> 
> Matt
> 
>> Am 28.06.2019 um 10:05 schrieb Jason Tjankilisan:
>> Hey Marth,
>> 
>> After some testing, making sure my server run correctly, I changed my 
>> smtpserver.xml configuration file and it works. As you said, the <jmxName> 
>> tag was important so i added the tag and rename it so it goes like  this :
>> 
>> <smtpserver enabled="true">
>>    <jmxName>smtpSend</jmxName>
>>         <bind>0.0.0.0:465</bind>
>> 
>>         <tls socketTLS="true" startTLS="false">
>>            <keystore>file://conf/keystore</keystore>
>>            <secret>pass</secret>
>>            
>> <provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
>>            <algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
>>         </tls>
>> 
>>         <connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
>>         <!-- Set the maximum simultaneous incoming connections for this 
>> service -->
>>         <connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
>>         <!-- Set the maximum simultaneous incoming connections per IP for 
>> this service -->
>>         <connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
>> 
>>         <authRequired>true</authRequired>
>> 
>>         <authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
>>         <maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
>>         <addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
>> 
>>         <handlerchain>
>>           <handler 
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
>>           <handler class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
>>         </handlerchain>
>> 
>> </smtpserver>
>> 
>> Now my thunderbird can receive email from world and send message to other 
>> (though still treated as spam in gmail, but maybe because still no DKIM and 
>> SPF). Thank you so much for the help!
>> 
>> Sincerely, Jason
>> Sorry for any wrong word, and thank you for the help
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: cryptearth
>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:52 PM
>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: How to configure SMTP so thunderbird can send email 
>> /receiveemail from outside world?
>> 
>> Hey Jason,
>> 
>> so I tested it on my backup (runs an older 3.1-snap version). This is my
>> smtpserver.xml (keystore passphrase changed):
>> 
>> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>> <smtpservers>
>>          <smtpserver enabled="true">
>>                  <jmxName>smtpOne</jmxName>
>>                  <bind>0.0.0.0:25</bind>
>> <connectionBacklog>200</connectionBacklog>
>>                  <tls socketTLS="false" startTLS="true">
>> <keystore>file://conf/james.jks</keystore>
>>                          <secret>pass</secret>
>> <provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
>>                          <algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
>>                  </tls>
>>                  <helloName autodetect="true">home.cryptearth.de</helloName>
>> <connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
>>                  <connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
>> <connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
>>                  <authRequired>announce</authRequired>
>> <authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
>>                  <maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
>> <addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
>> <smtpGreeting>cryptearth.de</smtpGreeting>
>>                  <handlerchain>
>>                          <handler
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
>>                          <handler
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
>>                          <handler
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.SpamAssassinHandler">
>> <spamdHost>127.0.0.1</spamdHost>
>> <spamdPort>783</spamdPort>
>> <spamdRejectionHits>10</spamdRejectionHits>
>>                          </handler>
>>                  </handlerchain>
>>          </smtpserver>
>>          <smtpserver enabled="true">
>>                  <jmxName>smtpTwo</jmxName>
>>                  <bind>0.0.0.0:465</bind>
>> <connectionBacklog>200</connectionBacklog>
>>                  <tls socketTLS="true" startTLS="false">
>> <keystore>file://conf/james.jks</keystore>
>>                          <secret>pass</secret>
>> <provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
>>                          <algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
>>                  </tls>
>>                  <helloName autodetect="true">home.cryptearth.de</helloName>
>> <connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
>>                  <connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
>> <connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
>>                  <authRequired>announce</authRequired>
>> <authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
>>                  <maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
>> <addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
>> <smtpGreeting>cryptearth.de</smtpGreeting>
>>                  <handlerchain>
>>                          <handler
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
>>                          <handler
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
>>                          <handler
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.SpamAssassinHandler">
>> <spamdHost>127.0.0.1</spamdHost>
>> <spamdPort>783</spamdPort>
>> <spamdRejectionHits>10</spamdRejectionHits>
>>                          </handler>
>>                  </handlerchain>
>>          </smtpserver>
>>          <smtpserver enabled="true">
>>                  <jmxName>smtpThree</jmxName>
>>                  <bind>0.0.0.0:587</bind>
>> <connectionBacklog>200</connectionBacklog>
>>                  <tls socketTLS="false" startTLS="true">
>> <keystore>file://conf/james.jks</keystore>
>>                          <secret>pass</secret>
>> <provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
>>                          <algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
>>                  </tls>
>>                  <helloName autodetect="true">home.cryptearth.de</helloName>
>> <connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
>>                  <connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
>> <connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
>>                  <authRequired>announce</authRequired>
>> <authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
>>                  <maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
>> <addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
>> <smtpGreeting>cryptearth.de</smtpGreeting>
>>                  <handlerchain>
>>                          <handler
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
>>                          <handler
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
>>                          <handler
>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.SpamAssassinHandler">
>> <spamdHost>127.0.0.1</spamdHost>
>> <spamdPort>783</spamdPort>
>> <spamdRejectionHits>10</spamdRejectionHits>
>>                          </handler>
>>                  </handlerchain>
>>          </smtpserver>
>> </smtpservers>
>> 
>> Note I added jmxName in all three - reason for this is when jmxName is
>> omitted in all thread, james tries "smtpserver" as default for all of
>> them - wich fails for the 2nd as "smtpserver" already exists for the
>> first one > lead to crash and james can't startup. After fixing this
>> james starts up complete with all three ports active. I tested to
>> connect and auth to them wich worked without any issue for startTLS and
>> socketTLS. So, unless you have something else in your config or get
>> errors when starting james (I recommend to test with "./james console"
>> until you get it) it should work fine. Maybe adding jmxName fixes it to
>> override default "smtpserver" bean name.
>> 
>> Hope this helps ...
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
>>> Am 27.06.2019 um 14:35 schrieb cryptearth:
>>> Don't worry about usage of mail-list - you get used to it by using it.
>>> I had same issues when I first asked here. A good maillist-capable
>>> client makes things easier. I don't know about Mail for Win10 - but
>>> Thunderbird is a good choice.
>>> 
>>> To be honest: I just wrote what I remember back from a topic about the
>>> same issue, I never tried it myself as I never encountered the issue I
>>> couldn't connect on TCP/25 to my server. As said: filtering outgoing
>>> TCP/25 for customers is common practice for ISPs or security aware
>>> admins on big networks like campus or the like. I have to test it
>>> myself to give you a better explanation. Maybe someone else get it
>>> faster.
>>> 
>>> Just wait for another reply, either from me or from others. But we
>>> will get this done to help you.
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> 
>>>> Am 27.06.2019 um 12:14 schrieb Jason Tjankilisan:
>>>> (Im sorry for double posting,im still confused of how this mailing
>>>> list works)
>>>> Halo Matt,
>>>> 
>>>> First of all, I want to thank you for the solution provided and for
>>>> the explanation.
>>>> 
>>>> I try to follow your instruction by adding said <smtpserver> tag and
>>>> change the <bind>, and <tlsSocket> to true (I copy paste the info
>>>> from my port 25 SMTP and didn’t include the jmxname because it can be
>>>> ignored):
>>>> 
>>>> <smtpserver enabled="true">
>>>>          <bind>0.0.0.0:465</bind>
>>>> 
>>>>          <tls socketTLS="true" startTLS="false">
>>>> <keystore>file://conf/keystore</keystore>
>>>>             <secret>pass</secret>
>>>> <provider>org.bouncycastle.jce.provider.BouncyCastleProvider</provider>
>>>>             <algorithm>SunX509</algorithm>
>>>>          </tls>
>>>> 
>>>>          <connectiontimeout>360</connectiontimeout>
>>>>          <!-- Set the maximum simultaneous incoming connections for
>>>> this service -->
>>>>          <connectionLimit>0</connectionLimit>
>>>>          <!-- Set the maximum simultaneous incoming connections per
>>>> IP for this service -->
>>>> <connectionLimitPerIP>0</connectionLimitPerIP>
>>>> 
>>>>          <authRequired>true</authRequired>
>>>> 
>>>> <authorizedAddresses>127.0.0.0/8</authorizedAddresses>
>>>>          <maxmessagesize>0</maxmessagesize>
>>>> <addressBracketsEnforcement>true</addressBracketsEnforcement>
>>>> 
>>>>          <handlerchain>
>>>>            <handler
>>>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.fastfail.ValidRcptHandler"/>
>>>>            <handler
>>>> class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
>>>>          </handlerchain>
>>>> 
>>>> </smtpserver>
>>>> 
>>>> And I try to get my mail server from thunderbird (also changed the
>>>> setting to port 465 SSL/TLS), but the connection got refused and I
>>>> cant even send email. I try putting the SMTP port 465 code under the
>>>> SMTP port 25, so maybe the SMTP port 25 get loaded first before the
>>>> 465, but still no luck.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there something im doing wrong or I miss or I need to look out?
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely, Jason
>>>> Sorry for any wrong word, and thank you for the help
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>> 
>>>> From: cryptearth
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:03 AM
>>>> To: server-user@james.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: How to configure SMTP so thunderbird can send email /
>>>> receiveemail from outside world?
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Jason,
>>>> 
>>>> if I remeber correctly from an older topic, it's possible to use more
>>>> than one port per service. In <james>/conf/smtpserver.xml you normal
>>>> have this layout:
>>>> 
>>>> <smtpservers>
>>>>      <smtpserver>
>>>>          <bind>0.0.0.0:25</bind>
>>>>      </smtpserver>
>>>> </smtpservers>
>>>> 
>>>> This is the required one on TCP/25 for receiving e-mails from the
>>>> outside world. Why? SMTP uses TCP/25 for inter-server communication:
>>>> each MTA that want to talk to another MTA has to do this on TCP/25 - if
>>>> TCP/25 isn't open or there is no SMTP server on this port mails can't be
>>>> delievered.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want additional ports for TCP/465 (socketTLS) or TCP/587
>>>> (startTLS) you just have to add another <smtpserver>-block. You can just
>>>> copy the existing block. But you have to change the jmxName, or delete
>>>> it, as there can't multiple jmx entries with the same name.
>>>> 
>>>> So you can do this:
>>>> 
>>>> <smtpservers>
>>>>      <smtpserver>
>>>>          <bind>0.0.0.0:25</bind>
>>>>          <tls socketTLS="false" startTLS="true">
>>>>              <!-- stuff -->
>>>>          </tls>
>>>>      </smtpserver>
>>>>      <smtpserver>
>>>>          <bind>0.0.0.0:465</bind>
>>>>          <tls socketTLS="true" startTLS="false">
>>>>              <!-- stuff -->
>>>>          </tls>
>>>>      </smtpserver>
>>>>      <smtpserver>
>>>>          <bind>0.0.0.0:587</bind>
>>>>          <tls socketTLS="false" startTLS="true">
>>>>              <!-- stuff -->
>>>>          </tls>
>>>>      </smtpserver>
>>>> </smtpservers>
>>>> 
>>>> This way you open your james on ports 25, 465 and 587. The startTLS on
>>>> 25 is so other MTA can drop mails over encrypted channel, but you can
>>>> set it to false. Make sure to set authRequired to announce to enforce
>>>> SMTP AUTH or set authroizedAddress correctly (also check
>>>> mailetcontainer.xml !).
>>>> 
>>>> About TCP/25 is marked as spam - I guess you're either in a larger
>>>> network or use an ISP with strict policies, as it shouldn't be blocked
>>>> allthough it's a good anti-spam mechanic. Try contact the admin/support
>>>> about policies about TCP/25.
>>>> 
>>>> Matt
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 27.06.2019 um 05:09 schrieb Jason Tjankilisan:
>>>>> Halo,
>>>>> After doing some research about my problem, I found
>>>>> this 
>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/server-user@james.apache.org/msg15590.html 
>>>>> and
>>>>> from what im understanding that if my SMTP use port other than 25, I
>>>>> cannot get any email from outside world? (Gmail, Yahoo I pressume)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I might be wrong since im new but, to send email to outside world, I
>>>>> need port 465 with SSL/TLS Socket on so it wont be recognized as
>>>>> spam. In addition, it seems using port 25 as SMTP port to send email
>>>>> using thunderbird always create a connection time out error.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the IMAP server, I can use port 993 with socketTLS and port 143
>>>>> with no problem to get new email, as long as the SMTP port stay on
>>>>> 25. (Additional Info : keystore was created using Letsencrypt)
>>>>> 
>>>>> (When I change SMTP port to 465, I got this error from gmail)
>>>>> The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn
>>>>> more
>>>>> at https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [jason.107.jp. 
>>>>> 5.189.160.138:
>>>>> generic::failed_precondition: connect error (111): Connection refused]
>>>>> So is there any way for my SMTP to use port 465 and still get email
>>>>> from outside my server?
>>>>> Sincerely, Jason
>>>>> Sorry for any wrong word, and thank you for the help
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>> 
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