AW: AW: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves [unsigned]

2015-03-29 Thread Bernd Waibel
Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Jerry Malcolm techst...@malcolms.com Datum: 28.03.2015 17:53 (GMT+01:00) An: James Users List server-user@james.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves [unsigned] Hi Bernd, Thanks for the response. Here's the problem scenario

Re: AW: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves [unsigned]

2015-03-28 Thread Jerry Malcolm
[mailto:bwai...@intarsys.de] Gesendet: Samstag, 14. März 2015 00:07 An: James Users List Betreff: AW: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves [unsigned] Hello Jerry, just a few thoughts about alternatives (not sure I got your problem). Why don't use a database sequence field or AUTO_INCREMENT field

Re: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves

2015-03-16 Thread Robert Munn
Certainly it all depends on your needs and your resource constraints. Solr or ElasticSearch would provide a robust and feature-rich search system, but you would ideally build a custom search interface for your needs, and as you noted, possibly spin up new infrastructure to support it. Solr isn't

Re: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves

2015-03-16 Thread Michael Bailly
btw we have developed a James plugin that does just that (indexing emails, in ElasticSearch through a kafka message queue). Feel free to contact me or Benoit if you want more infos. Regards, Le 15/03/2015 00:18, Robert Munn a écrit : Jerry, Have you considered using an external system for

Re: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves

2015-03-16 Thread Jerry Malcolm
Robert, I guess that's always a possibility. But it seems like the overhead would be huge: Purchasing, installing, and learning a completely new database system, doubling the several terabytes of storage, both primary and backup to duplicate the entire existing mail db, writing and

Re: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves

2015-03-14 Thread Robert Munn
Jerry, Have you considered using an external system for this purpose? Offhand, I would think you could use either a NoSQL store like Cassandra or a search system like Solr to maintain your searchable history. You could create a mailet to insert new emails into the external system, then you

Re: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves

2015-03-13 Thread Jerry Malcolm
Benoit, Thanks for the info. Kinda what I was suspecting. Here's what I've done so far... My ultimate objective is to maintain a searchable index for all of the hundreds of thousands of emails stored in my JAMES mail db. As previously discussed, this is only possible assuming I have a

AW: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves [unsigned]

2015-03-13 Thread Bernd Waibel
@james.apache.org Betreff: Re: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves Benoit, Thanks for the info. Kinda what I was suspecting. Here's what I've done so far... My ultimate objective is to maintain a searchable index for all of the hundreds of thousands of emails stored in my JAMES mail db

AW: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves [unsigned]

2015-03-13 Thread Bernd Waibel
: Samstag, 14. März 2015 00:07 An: James Users List Betreff: AW: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves [unsigned] Hello Jerry, just a few thoughts about alternatives (not sure I got your problem). Why don't use a database sequence field or AUTO_INCREMENT field, instead of a UUID? And let the database

Tracking Mail After Folder Moves

2015-03-13 Thread Jerry Malcolm
This is somewhat an IMAP question. But also a JAMES implementation question. My client has a massive amount of mail that must be kept and accessed. They use Thunderbird and Outlook to do the normal mail handling stuff. No problems at all on the client side. But on the back end, I need to

AW: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves [unsigned]

2015-03-13 Thread Bernd Waibel
and insert action. Would this help? Regards Bernd Waibel -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jerry Malcolm [mailto:techst...@malcolms.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 13. März 2015 16:50 An: James Users List Betreff: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves This is somewhat an IMAP question. But also a JAMES

Re: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves

2015-03-13 Thread Benoit Tellier
Hi Jerry, You are right ... This is what happens when you drag and drop an e-mail in thunderbid from folder A to B : 1 : Client receive a mail in folder A . The mail is identified by the pair ( mailbox path + uid ). Mailbox path ( or mailbox Id ) is folder specific. Uid is a long, per mailbox

Re: AW: Tracking Mail After Folder Moves [unsigned]

2015-03-13 Thread Benoit Tellier
Le 13/03/2015 17:36, Bernd Waibel a écrit : I am not firm with IMAP, is there a move operation? If the move operation is implemented as a delete and create operation, the identity will be lost. Is it possible to implement the move operation as a database renaming operation, to keep the