RE: [servman] SCSM Console
It might depend on the number of people that are using or are planning to be using the console. If you only have a very few (under 5) you could get by with a single console. If you have or are planning to have more console connections than that then you might want to consider an additional Management Server that can be used to handle the connections. Alternatively, Cireson makes a web-based console based on http that is an excellent choice for larger numbers of client connections. You can check out all of their SCSM add-on products herehttp://www.cireson.com/app-store/. Thanks, Mark A. Mears, Sr. MCTS, MCITP Microsoft Architect En Pointe Technologieshttp://www.enpointe.com/ Main: (310) 337-5200 Direct: (310) 337-4580 Mobile: (757) 945-2651 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of JRIT Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 6:00 PM To: servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [servman] SCSM Console Nice to know guys, this will help me a lot. Based on your experience, what is the most common scenario in companies using SCSM console? 2014-04-18 14:48 GMT-03:00 Marcum, John jmar...@babc.commailto:jmar...@babc.com: Sorry…. I didn't read this well. My answer was related to CM not SM. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mears, Mark Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:24 AM To: servman@lists.myitforum.commailto:servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [servman] SCSM Console Since the console is installed by default on the Management Server, having an additional console gives another benefit. The Management Server can be leveraged to place all of the Management Packs and zero connections, while the additional console can be used for all of the connections. Having the console on the alternate server reduces the load on the Management Server thus leaving more resources to the Management Server for running workflows, etc. On the downside , sometimes these two servers fall out of sync and then the Management Health Service requires a restart on both. That is not a frequent occurrence however. Thanks, Mark A. Mears, Sr. MCTS, MCITP Microsoft Architect En Pointe Technologieshttp://www.enpointe.com/ Main: (310) 337-5200tel:%28310%29%20337-5200 Direct: (310) 337-4580tel:%28310%29%20337-4580 Mobile: 757) 945-2651tel:757%29%20945-2651 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:11 PM To: 'servman@lists.myitforum.commailto:servman@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [servman] SCSM Console It places the console closer to the server in a distributed environment too. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.commailto:christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:09 AM To: servman@lists.myitforum.commailto:servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [servman] SCSM Console Citrix XenApp uses RDS in the background. It just gives some enhanced features. Pro’s: You only install the console in one place (the XenApp or RDS servers) Con’s You need a lot of memory assigned to those, since the console uses a lot. Christopher Catlett Consultant | Detroit [MCTS_2013_small] Sogeti USA Office 248-876-9738tel:248-876-9738 |Fax 877.406.9647tel:877.406.9647 26957 Northwestern Highway, Suite 130, Southfield, MI 48033-8456 www.us.sogeti.comhttp://www.us.sogeti.com/ From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of JRIT Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:37 AM To: servman@lists.myitforum.commailto:servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [servman] SCSM Console What is the PROS to use SCSM Console installed on RDS or Citrix? and, what is better, use RDS or Citrix to do that? Thank you so much, Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer
RE: [servman] SCSM Console
Citrix XenApp uses RDS in the background. It just gives some enhanced features. Pro's: You only install the console in one place (the XenApp or RDS servers) Con's You need a lot of memory assigned to those, since the console uses a lot. Christopher Catlett Consultant | Detroit [MCTS_2013_small] Sogeti USA Office 248-876-9738 |Fax 877.406.9647 26957 Northwestern Highway, Suite 130, Southfield, MI 48033-8456 www.us.sogeti.comhttp://www.us.sogeti.com/ From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of JRIT Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:37 AM To: servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [servman] SCSM Console What is the PROS to use SCSM Console installed on RDS or Citrix? and, what is better, use RDS or Citrix to do that? Thank you so much, inline: image001.jpg
RE: [servman] SCSM Console
Since the console is installed by default on the Management Server, having an additional console gives another benefit. The Management Server can be leveraged to place all of the Management Packs and zero connections, while the additional console can be used for all of the connections. Having the console on the alternate server reduces the load on the Management Server thus leaving more resources to the Management Server for running workflows, etc. On the downside , sometimes these two servers fall out of sync and then the Management Health Service requires a restart on both. That is not a frequent occurrence however. Thanks, Mark A. Mears, Sr. MCTS, MCITP Microsoft Architect En Pointe Technologieshttp://www.enpointe.com/ Main: (310) 337-5200 Direct: (310) 337-4580 Mobile: 757) 945-2651 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:11 PM To: 'servman@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [servman] SCSM Console It places the console closer to the server in a distributed environment too. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.commailto:christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:09 AM To: servman@lists.myitforum.commailto:servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [servman] SCSM Console Citrix XenApp uses RDS in the background. It just gives some enhanced features. Pro's: You only install the console in one place (the XenApp or RDS servers) Con's You need a lot of memory assigned to those, since the console uses a lot. Christopher Catlett Consultant | Detroit [MCTS_2013_small] Sogeti USA Office 248-876-9738 |Fax 877.406.9647 26957 Northwestern Highway, Suite 130, Southfield, MI 48033-8456 www.us.sogeti.comhttp://www.us.sogeti.com/ From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of JRIT Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:37 AM To: servman@lists.myitforum.commailto:servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [servman] SCSM Console What is the PROS to use SCSM Console installed on RDS or Citrix? and, what is better, use RDS or Citrix to do that? Thank you so much, Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. inline: image001.jpg
RE: [servman] SCSM Console
Sorry I didn't read this well. My answer was related to CM not SM. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mears, Mark Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:24 AM To: servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [servman] SCSM Console Since the console is installed by default on the Management Server, having an additional console gives another benefit. The Management Server can be leveraged to place all of the Management Packs and zero connections, while the additional console can be used for all of the connections. Having the console on the alternate server reduces the load on the Management Server thus leaving more resources to the Management Server for running workflows, etc. On the downside , sometimes these two servers fall out of sync and then the Management Health Service requires a restart on both. That is not a frequent occurrence however. Thanks, Mark A. Mears, Sr. MCTS, MCITP Microsoft Architect En Pointe Technologieshttp://www.enpointe.com/ Main: (310) 337-5200 Direct: (310) 337-4580 Mobile: 757) 945-2651 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:11 PM To: 'servman@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [servman] SCSM Console It places the console closer to the server in a distributed environment too. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.commailto:christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:09 AM To: servman@lists.myitforum.commailto:servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [servman] SCSM Console Citrix XenApp uses RDS in the background. It just gives some enhanced features. Pro's: You only install the console in one place (the XenApp or RDS servers) Con's You need a lot of memory assigned to those, since the console uses a lot. Christopher Catlett Consultant | Detroit [MCTS_2013_small] Sogeti USA Office 248-876-9738 |Fax 877.406.9647 26957 Northwestern Highway, Suite 130, Southfield, MI 48033-8456 www.us.sogeti.comhttp://www.us.sogeti.com/ From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of JRIT Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:37 AM To: servman@lists.myitforum.commailto:servman@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [servman] SCSM Console What is the PROS to use SCSM Console installed on RDS or Citrix? and, what is better, use RDS or Citrix to do that? Thank you so much, Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. inline: image001.jpg
Re: [servman] SCSM Console
Nice to know guys, this will help me a lot. Based on your experience, what is the most common scenario in companies using SCSM console? 2014-04-18 14:48 GMT-03:00 Marcum, John jmar...@babc.com: Sorry…. I didn't read this well. My answer was related to CM not SM. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Mears, Mark *Sent:* Friday, April 18, 2014 11:24 AM *To:* servman@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [servman] SCSM Console Since the console is installed by default on the Management Server, having an additional console gives another benefit. The Management Server can be leveraged to place all of the Management Packs and zero connections, while the additional console can be used for all of the connections. Having the console on the alternate server reduces the load on the Management Server thus leaving more resources to the Management Server for running workflows, etc. On the downside , sometimes these two servers fall out of sync and then the Management Health Service requires a restart on both. That is not a frequent occurrence however. Thanks, *Mark A. Mears, Sr.* *MCTS, MCITP* Microsoft Architect En Pointe Technologies http://www.enpointe.com/ Main: (310) 337-5200 Direct: (310) 337-4580 Mobile: 757) 945-2651 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcum, John *Sent:* Friday, April 18, 2014 12:11 PM *To:* 'servman@lists.myitforum.com' *Subject:* RE: [servman] SCSM Console It places the console closer to the server in a distributed environment too. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.com *Sent:* Friday, April 18, 2014 11:09 AM *To:* servman@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [servman] SCSM Console Citrix XenApp uses RDS in the background. It just gives some enhanced features. Pro’s: You only install the console in one place (the XenApp or RDS servers) Con’s You need a lot of memory assigned to those, since the console uses a lot. *Christopher Catlett* Consultant | Detroit *[image: MCTS_2013_small]* *Sogeti USA* Office 248-876-9738 |Fax 877.406.9647 26957 Northwestern Highway, Suite 130, Southfield, MI 48033-8456 www.us.sogeti.com *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *JRIT *Sent:* Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:37 AM *To:* servman@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [servman] SCSM Console What is the PROS to use SCSM Console installed on RDS or Citrix? and, what is better, use RDS or Citrix to do that? Thank you so much, -- Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. -- Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. -- Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. -- Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. inline: image001.jpg
