Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Mike, Thanks for the explanation. The reason such a small amount works is the H2O2 acts as a catalyst. It is not consumed in the process of converting silver oxides back to silver ions and oxygen. Somehow I missed some of this. I have had some distractions lately. I

Re: CSEffect on Kombucha?

2004-08-20 Thread Rowena Evans
If you mean adding it to it while it is growing, it will kill it. Marshall No, I mean if one were to take it together, or on the same day. R I've just started making Kombucha. Is CS likely to counteract it in any way? Kill off any beneficial organisms? I understand the fungus is a

CSChicken Pox

2004-08-20 Thread jandwtighe
I just wanted to thank the list. My 14 month old DS just got over the chicken pox. Thanks to cs and DMSO it was a walk in the park. The only bad thing? My DS smelled like creamed corn. I thought chickenpox was supposed to be difficult and kids were supposed to be pink from the horrid

Re: CSCleaning electrodes

2004-08-20 Thread Ode Coyote
I don't even think it's neccessary to scrub the surface clean, just wipe really well, maybe polish a little...get the loose stuff off. Yes, IMO rough is good. ode At 10:35 AM 8/19/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hi, Ode, Thanks for your insights. Are you saying that a fresh, satiny surface is

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS From: Wayne Fugitt Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:16:14 Hi Wayne, Evening Mike, Thanks for the explanation. The reason such a small amount works is the H2O2 acts as a catalyst. It is not consumed in the process of converting silver oxides back to

Re: CSH2o2

2004-08-20 Thread Ode Coyote
At 10:45 AM 8/19/2004 -0400, you wrote: Re: CSH2o2 From: Ode Coyote Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 07:12:34 I think it was Nancy Delise that showed a micrograph of CS taken by a water treatment plant before and after adding peroxide that proves the case out. Frank Key could run

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS From: Mike Monett Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:05:43 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72701.html Sorry,I goofed in a previous postwhen calculating part-per-billion. I brew in 2 litre batches and use 1/2 tsp but forgot to divide by

Re: CSnew bacteria

2004-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
I thought it was necrotizing fasciitis Is necrotizing fasciitis the name of the bacteria, or the medical term for the aliment? Marshall Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening Marshall, At 02:09 PM 8/19/2004, you wrote: From what I understand all the flesh eating bacteria not only respond to CS

Re: CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets

2004-08-20 Thread Paul Holloway
Hi Mike, A friend recommended this stuff http://www.siberianlichen.com/ for getting rid of mold. I haven't tried it, but it may be helpful to you. Paul H -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at:

Re: CSnew bacteria

2004-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
It is easy to understand. A cured patient is a lost patient. You were making them lose money! Marshall sol wrote: Well, with CS, DMSO, and H202 on hand I won't worry. My mother in her extreme old age had several injuries that got badly infected, and you wouldn't believe the pressure and

Re: CSH2o2

2004-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
Mike Monett wrote: Hi Nancy, Thanks for your post. You are confirming what many people here believe, which is the ionic cs works better. The silver oxides produced in many systems have little or no benefit. The oxides are inert, but H2O2 acts as a catalyst to convert

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Paul Holloway
You're welcome Mike. I wonder about the stability of hydrogen peroxide. I have some food grade 35% H2O2 that I have had for about two years. It has no preservatives in it, but it is still good. I made up some 3% from it yesterday, and used some in my ear, and it fizzed up like crazy. It has been

Re: CSChicken Pox

2004-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
I think a child should have chicken pox for a few days before you get rid of it. That should give them a lifetime of immunity, and if they don't get that, it can be very serious in adult years. Marshall jandwti...@charter.net wrote: I just wanted to thank the list. My 14 month old DS just

Re: CSChicken Pox

2004-08-20 Thread Garnet
Hate to burst anyone's bubble but most of us get Chicken Pox many times in our lifetimes. The first outbreak is generally the worst and subsequent cases are not recognized because there are rarely any pox, maybe one or two on the chest or scalp. Symptoms are like the prodromal of any CP outbreak,

Re: CSH2o2

2004-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: ## I've seen the peroxide clean off the oxide pretty fast. What I don't understand is why, if a black electrode is left in peroxide after being cleaned off, does it turn black again. Two possibilities I can think of. The silver oxide dissolves into H2O2, and thus the

Re: CSSubject: CSinjury and pain: suggested solutions

2004-08-20 Thread Val Morten
on the rife group it was reported it has a probiotic form that is pleomorfic and can lead to cancer. roger sol wrote: I am NOT a fan of Primal Defense or their related products. The company gave me intentionally misleading information about whether there was iodine content in their

Re: CSChicken Pox

2004-08-20 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 8/20/04 2:21:15 AM EST, jandwti...@charter.net writes: My 14 month old DS just got over the chicken pox. What's a DS? And a DD? Glad you eradicated the chicken pox. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for

Re: CSnew bacteria

2004-08-20 Thread Paul Holloway
Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, NSAIDs, like ibuprofen, and aspirin are supposed to be the culprits, making the body susceptible to bacteria that normally don't cause a problem. Necrotizing fasciitis is the term. They certainly have a bad effect on the gastrointestinal system - they killed

Re: CSH2o2

2004-08-20 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSH2o2 From: Marshall Dudley Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:43:56 Ode Coyote wrote: ## I've seen the peroxide clean off the oxide pretty fast. What I don't understand is why, if a black electrode is left in peroxide after being cleaned off, does it turn black again. Two

Re: CSnew bacteria

2004-08-20 Thread Paul Holloway
You are quite right Dudley. We had a couple of cases in the hospital where I used to work - I am a biomedical scientist. It is the name given to the condition - a streptococcal infection of soft tissue that runs through the body seemingly unaffected by the immune system. Paul H - Original

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Paul Holloway
Hi Mike, I disagree with this part of your calculation: Now, 1 ppm = 1 milliliter per litre There are 1000 milliliters to a litre, so 1mL/L is 1 part per thousand. I think you are thinking of CS, where 1mg per litre is ~1ppm. So 0.0369 milliliters = 0.0369 ppm, or ~40 parts per billion

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
Mike Monett wrote: So the basic conclusions remain as before. The black stuff is oxide. Scrape off a small amount of the black stuff, and put it in a glass of distilled water and warm. If it dissolves slowly, it is silver oxide, if it does not then it is either silver peroxide, or finely

CSRe:Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread William Amos
If you have an ohmmeter, measure the resistance between the clean part of your rod and the black Silver Oxide. Silver oxide is a poor conductor and will even stop current flow in a batch if are checking with a milli-ammeter. Bill Amos

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS From: Paul Holloway Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:21:30 Hi Mike, I disagree with this part of your calculation: Now, 1 ppm = 1 milliliter per litre There are 1000 milliliters to a litre, so 1mL/L is 1 part per thousand. I think you are thinking of

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS From: Marshall Dudley Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:51:18 Mike Monett wrote: So the basic conclusions remain as before. The black stuff is oxide. Scrape off a small amount of the black stuff, and put it in a glass of distilled water and warm. If

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS From: Mike Monett Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:10:40 Some quickie notes on silver oxide batteries. They are ideal for watch batteries and high drain applications. For example: Energizer High Drain Silver Oxide Specs Chemistry : Silver Oxide

Re: CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets

2004-08-20 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets From: Paul Holloway Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:56:33 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72730.html Hi Mike, A friend recommended this stuff http://www.siberianlichen.com/ for getting rid of mold. I haven't tried it, but it may be

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread sol
Perhaps the contaminants from production stabilize it? I would give the link if I could find it again, but I saw an analysis/comparison of 3% grocery store peroxide to 35% food grade and the total amount of extraneous stuff in the food grade was about the samedifferent chemicals/metals or

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
I agree, silver oxide is a conductor. Most metallic oxides are poor conductors and I am surprised by this. I knew silver sulfide was a conductor, but not silver oxide. Thanks for the correction. Marshall Mike Monett wrote: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS From: Marshall Dudley Date: Fri, 20 Aug

CSWatch Battery Use

2004-08-20 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Mike, Paul, and all the chemists, Few people know all the uses for these tiny watch batteries. I understand these batteries are used to commit suicide in primitive countries. All they do is to swallow the battery. NO one would be that economically minded in the USA. What is

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS From: sol Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:18:03 Perhaps the contaminants from production stabilize it? I would give the link if I could find it again, but I saw an analysis/comparison of 3% grocery store peroxide to 35% food grade and the total

Re: CSWatch Battery Use

2004-08-20 Thread Mike Monett
CSWatch Battery Use From: Wayne Fugitt Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:28:38 Evening Mike, Paul, and all the chemists, Few people know all the uses for these tiny watch batteries. I understand these batteries are used to commit suicide in primitive countries. All they do is to

Re: CSWatch Battery Use

2004-08-20 Thread Roger Barker
on 21/8/2004 12:44 PM, Mike Monett at 5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com wrote: CSWatch Battery Use From: Wayne Fugitt Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:28:38 Evening Mike, Paul, and all the chemists, Few people know all the uses for these tiny watch batteries. I understand these batteries are used to

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
OK, I just ran a test. I started with 5 ppm EIS, approximately 80% ionic. I put equal amounts into to containers, and added a few drops of H2O2 to one of them. I could see no difference between, they were both crystal clear. I then added a pinch of salt to both. The one without H2O2

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread nancymike
Wayne, I believe I came to that conclusion after discussing it with some of the members of this list. I l look at the microscopic picture that I have before and after adding the H2o2, and I see such a world of difference in the particle size that I feel it is probably jsut about right. I'm

CSLed array from V

2004-08-20 Thread Shirley Reed
Sure hope the site is not down. We got our 2 part array ( 660 and 880) about a week ago. My husband is using is for arthritis pain. It has been wonderful for him. In less than a week of using it about 30 min. per day on each elbow and the nape of the neck, he is now pain free for about

Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS

2004-08-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
OK, I have confirmed that converting silver chloride to silver oxide is exothermic, which means that the silver oxide is more stable. Thus possibility 2 of the previous message is not eliminated as I had hoped it would be. See http://www.finishing.com/195/29.html This article also gives some

Re: CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets

2004-08-20 Thread Garnet
Plants are great detoxifiers for indoor air. Philodendrens are one I kept for that reason. BUT in Seattle at least having house plants was also a source of mold since you keep the soil moist almost constantly, well some of us who dote on our plants do. So something to think about in your process

Re: CSMold, Chlorine Bleach and Vellux Blankets

2004-08-20 Thread Garnet
Another thought . . . spraying CS on the surface of the plant's soil might help prevent mold building up. I watered my Corn Plant (dracena masageana) with CS last year and it grew tremendously during the winter, which is normally a very slow to no growth period particularly for a slow growing

Re: CSnew bacteria

2004-08-20 Thread j rigby
At 12:53 AM 21/08/04, you wrote: It is easy to understand. A cured patient is a lost patient. You were making them lose money! Marshall A! So THAT's why they don't want to cure Cancer an' things and get so violent! I wondered about that. Cheers! Himagain Remember this; it is

Re: CSnew bacteria

2004-08-20 Thread Hank
You smart people telling us folks that don't know anything something? I don't think so we have known it a long time. glad you found out the truth at last, Docs kill not cure. Yours Hank hdka.com - Original Message - From: j rigby jrig...@fablor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday,

Re: CSH2o2

2004-08-20 Thread j rigby
At 02:22 AM 21/08/04, Marshall wrote: Two possibilities I can think of. Hey! you trying to put experts outta bizness with this simple stuff? What if everyone started thinking like this it ain't healthy to think too much. :-) Him -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for

Re: CSH2o2

2004-08-20 Thread j rigby
At 04:09 AM 21/08/04, you wrote: This is what we should be doing. It is only way we will learn about this wonderful gift from the Gods! Thanks, Marshall and Ken. Best Wishes, Mike Monett Like I said! See, it's happenin' awready. Next thing they'll be questionin' everythin' and what

CSRe: Re: CSChicken Pox

2004-08-20 Thread jandwtighe
DS is dear son and DD is dear daughter. I don't know if it's erradicated, lol, I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks. The only way we can figure my DS got it was from my sister-in-law who was in Spain and came across an infected child at a pool. I'm not sure about the incubation

Re: CSWatch Battery Use

2004-08-20 Thread j rigby
At 10:44 AM 21/08/04, you wrote: vening Wayne, It's obvious. User removes battery from watch and swallows it. Fails to notice the 5-o-clock express is on time and gets squished. Elementary, Sherlock:) Best Wishes, Mike Monett Sorry mike, you fell for the obvious error here - in what

CSSubject: Re: CSSubject: CSinjury and pain: suggested solutions

2004-08-20 Thread patriot2000
At 04:15 PM 8/20/2004, you wrote: on the rife group it was reported it has a probiotic form that is pleomorfic and can lead to cancer. roger Elaborate, please?? Thank you. Marlys -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are