Re: CSOne First-hand view of industrial chicken raising...

2009-04-28 Thread M. G. Devour
And I think we'd better have a cessation of hostilities here. The topic is still off-topic, and the tone is still sliding off into the personal and aggressive. Mike D. list owner On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 21:07 -0005, M. G. Devour wrote: This message was too big for the message size limit. I'm

Re: CSmaking cs

2009-04-28 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
Can you not set your machine to reverse polarity, because that does away with the problem altogether - you just don't get sludgy bits. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Revonda Henderson Date: 27/04/2009 22:08:24 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSmaking cs When I make a batch of

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-28 Thread Ode Coyote
There are rules and there are exception to them, norms and deviants always, and it's not always clear which are which. But to get an idea what a norm really is, you have to go further than TV sensationalism or some reactionary group with an axe to grind. . A deviant gets a lot more

Re: CShumane?

2009-04-28 Thread Ode Coyote
Money and mouths Right to lifers don't exactly step up and claim the unwanted children. They just yell about should be wanting all children, but that doesn't make it true and they don't SHOW that it is to them either. You should practice what I preach? Lady in a restaurant: [ true

RE: CSnebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
I just put CS in nebulizer and Breath in through mouth slowly and out through nose. I know it helps my sinuses. Not sure if it helps on my Asthma as I take other Meds also. I do know my Asthma is under control. It does help when I suffering from a chest cold. If you are sick it is a good way to

CS?? about EIS/ CS minerals

2009-04-28 Thread ZZekelink
My son was told you shouldn't take CS /EIS with minerals..The person said you should wait at least 4 hrs. after a dose to take a mineral supplement {such as zinc etc.}then said if you were taking mineral sups. you really should not take CS /EIS at all. Any comments / suggestions ??

CSRoom size Nebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Here is a way you could nebulizer a room or a house. They make a trap for Drywall sanding. A bucket filled (1/2 to 2/3 ) with water, with lid. On lid is 2 tubes, one just through lid and other through lid to near bottom of bucket. You hook Vacuum Cleaner on short tube (on top of water)

Re: CSmaking cs

2009-04-28 Thread ZZekelink
Thanks Steve, that is what I was referring to. Forgot to add it in my ?? Lois I am on a blackberry right now and don't access to all the previous posts. Is this relative to the CS with silver oxide and problems filtering it out? If so I would add 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of 3% H2O2 to a quart. -

Re: CS?? about EIS/ CS minerals

2009-04-28 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
I would take them a few hours apart because CS will 'plate out' onto minerals I believe. Having said that, it will do this once it reaches the stomach acid anyway. I take minerals in the form of spirulina and IES is still efficacious so I don't see any problems. Our bodies and food etc., are

Re: CS[List Owner] I'm Baa-aack!

2009-04-28 Thread gwms624
Yay, Yay, Yay. Happy Days are here again. WELCOME BACK MIKE! If we ever doubted the wonderful job you do on this list..this was the test. Sorry about your personal problems, hope all is well now. Gladys - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:35 am

CSRe: CS NEbulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Joseph Metz
Hi Robert, A few questions about this nebulizer. Would one need a compressor to use cs with h2o2? Or can we somehow pour the mix straight into the neb...? You mention 54.95. The price on the linked website says spring sale $195. Do you know something I should before I buy? Thanks in

CSRe: nebuliser

2009-04-28 Thread Joseph Metz
Hi Dee, thanks for the info. Is the Medisana Medibreeze a humidifier? Nebuliser? Vaporisor? I just bought a vaporiser from Walgreens the vapor comes out too hot to have near my face. The only info I found for the Medisana call is a humidifier. Does the vapor come out hot? Is there a

Re: CSnebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Day Sutton
Are you a smoker? Just curious. When I stopped smoking in 1967, my asthma went away, never to return... On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil wrote: I just put CS in nebulizer and Breath in through mouth slowly and out through nose.

Re: CS?? about EIS/ CS minerals

2009-04-28 Thread ZZekelink
Hi Dee, talk about a SR. Moment---yes, I did ask this before on silver pets. After I sent it I reviewed my note book there was your answer ...Sorry about that. But thanks for answering again... I do take Trace minerals also put them in the critters water...Lois **An

Re: CSnebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Ruth Bertella
First of two posts I found in my files - hope they help: Hi Lin: Humidifiers work, but again, they are the lowest quality. People think that a big, thick mist that nearly chokes you when you breathe it in indicates a high quality and a high level of effectiveness... In truth, the

Re: CSnebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Ruth Bertella
Second of the two posts (they were too long to send as one): Two good links on Nebulizing. http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2.html scroll down to cautions http://www.silvermedicine.org/nebulizers.html Sam L. On Jan 16, 2008 12:05 PM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com

CSCS pig flue

2009-04-28 Thread Joseph Metz
Received a couple of emails the list may be interested in regarding the potential swine flu epidemic. http://swinefluoutbreaknews.com/?p=80 http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-25-swine-flu-smithfield

RE: CSnebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Never smoked, even second hand smoke bothers me. Bob I just put CS in nebulizer and Breath in through mouth slowly and out through nose. I know it helps my sinuses. Not sure if it helps on my Asthma as I take other Meds also. I do know my Asthma is under

CSRe: CS H2o2

2009-04-28 Thread Joseph Metz
Hi, I've read that 3% H2O2 has stabilizers in it, an aluminum compound. But I have never read that of food grade 35% Any info or concerns on that? From: zzekel...@aol.com Date: April 28, 2009 5:20:58 AM PDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking cs Thanks Steve, that is what

RE: CSnebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
I had an Ultrasonic unit first but went to compressor unit. To me it works better. My Ultrasonic said it would not be good for some meds. They were to thick or some thing, not sure why. Bob First of two posts I found in my files - hope they help: Hi Lin: Humidifiers

RE: CSRe: CS H2o2

2009-04-28 Thread Norton, Steve
I use both diluted 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide (HP) and store bought 3% HP. When getting 3% HP look at the ingredients. Under Inactive Ingredients it should list only purified water. If it lists stabilizers under the Inactive Ingredients then don't buy or use it for this purpose. - Steve N

Re: CSOne First-hand view of industrial chicken raising...

2009-04-28 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Well Malcolm -- more accusations, thinly disguised as an apology?  As much as I hate to be dragged back into this, I am compelled to respond, at least a little bit.  I didn't dummy up about de-beaking -- and I certainly didn't shade the truth by denying the facts.  When I read her post, I

Re: CS[List Owner] I'm Baa-aack!

2009-04-28 Thread Indi
Hi Mike, While I find I can't completely agree with your characterization of the situation, I am *very* glad you're back, and happy to see some order restored to this list. I especially want to thank you for your message of tolerance for those of us who may not share the majority opinion.

Re: CSOne First-hand view of industrial chicken raising...

2009-04-28 Thread Indi
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:06:33AM -0700, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Another reason being that she said: with chickens they commonly remove beaks and feet. And she said it with the authority of personal knowledge, which she didn't have. MaryAnn, While I realize this thread is supposed

CSEpsom salt Baking soda OT

2009-04-28 Thread Joseph Metz
Do any of the chemistry informed list members know if there is any detrimental effect of adding epsom salts baking soda? I have heard them both recommended for detoxing baths but wonder if they neutralize or alter one another's ph or in anyway react? Other than mixing Thanks in

Re: CS?? about EIS/ CS minerals

2009-04-28 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
That's ok Louis I have more than my share of the SR moments! dee ---Original Message--- From: zzekel...@aol.com Date: 28/04/2009 15:07:51 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS?? about EIS/ CS minerals Hi Dee, talk about a SR. Moment---yes, I did ask this before on silver pets

Re: CSRe: nebuliser

2009-04-28 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
It has a little spout on the side Joseph and is a bit different to the one they show on Amazon at the moment. It is on sale at Life Pharmacy for £49 95 I have one and you just get a gentle mist (two intensities) which you can breathe in and it is not hot at all. It is a nebulizer and a

Re: CS[List Owner] I'm Baa-aack!

2009-04-28 Thread Clayton Family
Welcome home! Glad to hear it was mostly a busyness issue, and speedy recovery for the other pesky health stuff. Kathryn On Apr 27, 2009, at 7:39 PM, M. G. Devour wrote: Hello, everybody! As Mark Twain said, The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated! I sincerely want to thank

CSAll about SWINE FLU Links and Videos....

2009-04-28 Thread nupa_n...@hotmail.com
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Re: CSEpsom salt Baking soda OT

2009-04-28 Thread Clayton Family
I have minimal knowledge, but you're welcome to it: baking soda is an alkalizer, so it will change the pH of the bath water. Epsom salts is magnesium sulfate, and since it is a salt it will dissolve in water. I can't think of any reason why not to mix them together, unless you happen to have

Re: CSRoom size Nebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread cking001
Clever application! Would have to think of a way to suppress the noise. It's pretty horrendous, Chuck The ultimate smart weapon would be too smart to blow itself up On 4/28/2009 8:11:30 AM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC (robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil)

CSSilver Citrate

2009-04-28 Thread Norton, Steve
Malcolm, Here is the information on making silver citrate (SC). Before I get to that I thought I'd mention how I have elected to use it. I use a combination of SC and EIS. I use EIS topically, inhaled with a nebulizer, nasal spray and orally when combined with DMSO. For drinking I use SC blended

Re: CS[List Owner] I'm Baa-aack!

2009-04-28 Thread Ruth Bertella
Welcome back oh wise and mighty leader!! So glad you're 'back home', but sorry it had to be under the circumstances. And I'm sure you'll let us know if there is any way at all for us to help with the health issues. Happy days are here again! Ruth - Original Message - From: M. G.

Re: CSOne First-hand view of industrial chicken raising...

2009-04-28 Thread M. G. Devour
Stop this discussion now. It has deteriorated entirely into personal attack and critiques of argumentation instead of substance, which was off topic in the first place. I do not accept the attitude that permits these kinds of strained and hostile exchanges to poison the atmosphere of the group

CSmexican silver from pharmecea

2009-04-28 Thread Acmeair
Apr 28, 2009 06:45:13 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: many times in the past, we've discussed a product, available at pharmecies, reasonable cost, that one can treat drinking water, and not come down sick. anyone recall the name? seems i recall "micro." something. it was a form of

RE: CSmexican silver from pharmecea

2009-04-28 Thread Norton, Steve
In Mexico, colloidal silver manufactured under the trade name Microdyn, is sold through supermarkets and pharmacies for use in restaurants, hotels, and homes to disinfect water for drinking or washing of food. From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@verizon.net]

RE: CSRoom size Nebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Thora Rasmussen
You could also use an essential oil atomizer, and leave it on as long as you like. They range from $40 - $150, and just blow air across the oil (or CS) spray. They have some minimal noise. The motor is a fish tank motor, so they should be quite durable. They have a special glass piece that

CSforced vaccines

2009-04-28 Thread Deborah Gerard
If we are 'forced' to have vaccines what can we do now and after to help our body deal with the toxins in the vaccines? thanks in advance, debbie

Re: CSSilver Citrate

2009-04-28 Thread Malcolm
Hi Steve, Thanks very much for the information on both your individual usage protocols, and the methods you use for making it. My situation is that I'm aging (unique, I know; g) and have a spinal cord injury which gave me a neurogenic bladder and a few other complexities. I've become more

RE: CSSilver Citrate

2009-04-28 Thread Norton, Steve
Malcolm, And thank you for your information. I found it interesting and will add it to my files. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSilver Citrate Hi Steve, Thanks very

FW: CSforced vaccines

2009-04-28 Thread Norton, Steve
Oops, meant to send to the list. - Steve N From: Norton, Steve Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:30 PM To: devorah...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: CSforced vaccines I would have some chelators available and use them. Cilantro is a good chelator of Mercury. I have in

Re: RE: CSmexican silver from pharmecea

2009-04-28 Thread Acmeair
yes, sir, thats it. thank you very much! with all the coverage on the mexican situation, i don't recall one reference to microdyn being used to thwart the flu. the drug cartel down there is probably covering up the use there as they are here. are there any members of the list, with friends

Re: CSforced vaccines

2009-04-28 Thread Acmeair
good question here. was about to ask the same. i've been looking at the use of "stun guns". these have been used by missionarys in the deep jungle areas, used on brown recluse spider bites, and more. a member, in his research, found a stun gun that is in the midrange of power, and very

Re: CSRoom size Nebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread Rich Adams
I used a 10 gallon fish tank filled with CS and floated one of those ultrasonic pond foggers in it to fog the house once or twice. Needless to say it worked immediately to get airborne CS. Rich Adams - Original Message - Here is a way you could nebulizer a room or a house. --

Re: CSSilver Citrate -- YOUR reference Studies

2009-04-28 Thread Douglas Haack
G'day Steve Norton, Please let us have the studies you refer to: However I have seen a study where for the HIV virus, the virus does not ingest the silver but the silver actually attaches to the virus's receptor points, making it impossible for the virus to attach to a cell host and eventually

CSPPM

2009-04-28 Thread Dianne France
If we have this swine flu go pandemic what strength of silver should we be using to combat the virus? I had the flu over the winter and was using 5PPM and it didn't seem to help. Dianne

Re: CSPPM

2009-04-28 Thread Bob Banever
Dianne, 10ppm should do the trick but I wouldn't rely on silver only. Silver will inactivate any virus or bug, but it has to come into contact with the particle for it to work. I'd take other things along with the silver... allicin is a wonderful anti-viral as is MMS. Bob

CSinexpensive CS machines

2009-04-28 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
Hey all, Been a long time since I've visited the list, but I'm glad you are all still here and chatting. I've always wanted to get a real CS machine (had a SOTA unit years ago but gave it to a friend), and now may be as good a time as any. I believe CS is a good anti-viral, right? (Never

RE: CSPPM

2009-04-28 Thread Dianne France
Bob I did MMS ever four hours (6 drops) for several days along with the 5ppms of silver, same dose times. The only thing it did was make me very miserable making quick trips to the bathroom. The thing that seemed to stimulate everything into working was the addition of DMSO. It was the

Re: CSOne First-hand view of industrial chicken raising...

2009-04-28 Thread Malcolm
MaryAnn; No disguise, thick or thin; I apologize for the evident anger I expressed in my heated response to you, and I continue to object to your obfuscation particularly on the issues of de-beaking and your belligerent, contemptuous response to another list member; whatever you may feel that

RE: CSSilver Citrate -- YOUR reference Studies

2009-04-28 Thread Norton, Steve
Here is the one on HIV virus. See Figure 3 of http://www.jnanobiotechnology.com/content/3/1/6 to see the silver attached to the virus. I really like that picture :-) Here is one on bacteria: http://aem.asm.org/cgi/reprint/71/11/7589.pdf There is another one on bacteria I haven't found yet. -

CSCS and Avian flu

2009-04-28 Thread Harold MacDonald
When the Natural Solutions Foundation shared our analysis of the weaponization of the Avian Flu with you in 2008, we got thousands of emails asking us what to do to protect ourselves. What does Dr. Laibow use?. We said very clearly that while the weaponized Avian Flu Virus might not react the

Re: CSRoom size Nebulizer

2009-04-28 Thread cking001
Ooohhh.. Great idea. I saw some in an Asian store for birdbaths and such. Chuck Vegetarians eat vegetables--I am a humanitarian On 4/28/2009 6:15:00 PM, Rich Adams (rad...@kc.rr.com) wrote: I used a 10 gallon fish tank filled with CS and floated one of those

Re: CSEpsom salt Baking soda OT

2009-04-28 Thread mborgert
Baking soda and Epsom salt. 2cups epsom salt to 1 cup baking soda. salt will draw out toxins and soda will neutralize the toxins Mary -- Original message from Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net: -- Do any of the chemistry informed list members know if there is any

Re: CSPPM

2009-04-28 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Dianne -- would you mind sharing how you went about *adding* DMSO to your silver application?  I'm sorry you were so sick -- two days is bad enough, two weeks too much, two months?  Yikes.  MA From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list

Re: CSforced vaccines

2009-04-28 Thread MaryAnn Helland
OK -- I'm wondering if something as powerful as that (stun gun) is needed?  I just recentlly purchased a Godzilla unit, and have already used it on a tick bite -- very satisfactorily.  My chiropractor treats brown recluse bites with an electro-stim unit -- I think the Godzilla might handle that

CSFw: Prevention and cure for the swine flu

2009-04-28 Thread Paula Perry
I got this message and I thought I would pass it along as it might be helpful. What shocked me was the statement about the doctors and I wish he would have sent verifying information. Paula - Original Message - From: Dr. Hohn Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Prevention

Re: CSFw: Prevention and cure for the swine flu

2009-04-28 Thread Clayton Family
Is he dyslexic or something? With so many spelling mistakes, it is a little hard to believe he is a doctor. On Apr 28, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Paula Perry wrote: I got this message and I thought I would pass it along as it might be helpful. What shocked me was the statement about the doctors and I

Re: RE: CSmexican silver from pharmecea

2009-04-28 Thread Arnold Beland
http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr..._name=MICRODYN Might be good stuff for hopefully disinfecting questionable drinking water, such as that found in Mexico. It should not be compared with true nano-sized colloidal silver. - Original Message - From: Acmeair To:

CSReverse polarity circuit

2009-04-28 Thread john freese
Hello, Could someone please post instructions on how to build a reverse polarity circuit for a 45dc volt CS system? I looked in the archives but I must be blind. Thank you. John.

Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu

2009-04-28 Thread sol
When I read that the CDC estimates that 20,000 to 36,000 people die of flu every single year in the U.S. alone, I find it hard to get excited about this flu. How many people on average in Mexico die of regular old flus every year? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing

Re: CSPPM and what else eases the flu

2009-04-28 Thread Clayton Family
We used to use some Chinese Medicine pills (herbal), and ended up getting some more last winter. It was too late for me, but the others in the family took them, and it helped reduce the severity. They were not laid up as long as I was. One son never did get it, one son got it but took the Gan