will not be able to afford to
comply and will go out of business.
This is a far bigger threat to the survival of the dietary supplement
industry than CODEX!
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the resulting file exceeded the size limits
of the silver-list, the page is was put on the silver-colloids.com website.
Here is a link to that page:
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Marshall wrote:
Can that be produced the same way as colloidal silver electrolytically?
No, it can not be made by electrolysis. We make it by the Mesoprocess. There
is no home method to make it that I am aware of.
See: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesoplatinum.htm
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it.
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Marshal wrote:
If you are doing any naked mice studies, here is one that I would really
like
to see done...
So, where does one get naked mice?
Just kidding!
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argyria he got from using the Ionic Silver product produced by his own
company. High concentrations (100 ppm) of ionic silver will cause argyria.
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Frank, and Jason,
Have test results shown that Water Oz silver product to be a pure EIS
type product or is it a silver salt or MSP of some kind? I am unclear
WaterOZ Ionic Silver is silver citrate, at 100 ppm silver, last we tested.
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they? And what about total surface area of the
particulates?
My position is expressed on the following pages:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/Howtocompare.html
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html
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of Mesosilver have reported that they got rid of mono.
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particle concentrations below approx. 1 ppm. This assumes sub-nanometer
particle size.
If you have ever found a true colloid that is clear with a particle
concentration above 1 ppm I would like to test it in the lab as we have
never seen such a product.
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Excellent article on a common pathogenic mycoplasma.
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chloride.
The presence of ammonia in blood serum is 0.17 - 0.80 ppm which is not
sufficient to support any meaningful ability to dissolve silver chloride.
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when combined with chloride in the
stomach the same as any solution containing silver cations. Any water
soluble silver salt such as silver nitrate will behave the same way.
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You should be able to request the patent number from the company.
Their patent does not cover the HVAC cone method, nor could it due to prior
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. Silver
oxide is what makes the stain when a drop of ionic silver is left to
evaporate on a counter top.
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Ode wrote:
I believe that Frank Key uses an ultra centrifuge to nail particles to
the wall and AA Spec.
Or maybe his Malvern Particle sizer does it all.
Details on the equipment we use are shown on this page:
http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/labEquipment.htm
The centrifuge is a Beckman
to form a colloid.
This is a method for analysis purposes only and cannot be used to make a
high particle concentration colloid.
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charge
due to the extra electron. For every silver cation (+) that is formed
(dissolved) a corresponding companion anion(-) is formed such that the net
charge in the liquid is always zero.
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3B. Precipitation - same as 3A but using sodium hydroxide to precipitate the
ions out as silver hydroxide.
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I never received any samples for testing.
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David Bearrow wrote:
Were you able to determine what impurities were in the water that made its
conductivity so high?
We do not do an analysis for the anions. We suspect it is most likely
nitrate.
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The 2000 ppm silver product actually contains 1.73 ppm of silver.
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See Also: Ag, atomic number 47, atomic number 78, atomic number 79, Au,
gold, metal, metallic element, platinum, Pt, silver
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Bacteriology Study Results - Challenge tests were performed on bacterial and
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will suffice. A plastic bottle with a screw
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from Dr. Maass.
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The Chemical Handbook lists the solubility of AgCl to be
0.89g/100 ml of pure water. This corresponds to 0.89 ppm, a small
enough number for every analytical book in the world to list AgCl as
insoluble.
If one calculates the solubility from
Here is a testimonial from a user who got rid of pilonidal cysts::
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to chloride as strong as silver
and chloride is the most prevalent anion in the human body. Blood serum
typically consists of 3300 to 3900 ppm of chloride. The attraction of all
other metal ions to chloride is weak by comparison to silver.
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Silver can be detected in the bloodstream after ingesting ionic silver.
Because an ISE detects no silver ions it seems reasonable to speculate that
silver chloride is what is being detected.
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The small percentage of particles produced by electrolysis can be ionized
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and other
substances that can ionize metallic silver are not found in the body.
This group may find it interesting that some silver products on the market
have been found to contain little or no silver. See:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html#results
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Jodi Waldman wrote:
I had a telephone conversation with Frank Key.
He told me that ionic colloidal silver - the type of CS that is made by
all home CS generators,
was basically useless according to his laboratory dish studies because
silver ions bind with
sodium inside our bodies and become
silver, why can't an ISE measure their
presence? Atomic
absorption/emission can detect the presence of silver in the blood, but the
ISE finds
no silver ions.
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? How?
Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.
I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results
with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution.
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Subject: CSHas anybody used CS for Shingles?
What is a heavy metal? It depends on who you ask!
According to Chemistry International Vol 23, No.6 November 2001 - Heavy
Metals - A Meaningless Term
Over the past two decades, the term heavy metals has been used increasingly
in various publications and in legislation related to chemical
WaterOZ Ionic silver is actually silver citrate, usually 100-150 ppm and
is known to cause argyria.
The owner of the company got argyria from using this product according to an
individual who personally knows the owner.
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Marshall wrote:
What does everyone think of the articles on colloidal minerals here?
http://members.tripod.com/~Northup_Farms/Colloids.htm
It may make great plant food, but it is hard for me imagine why anyone would
want to ingest 107 ppm of aluminum in any form.
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35% is available from chemical companies.
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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS stains on counter tops
Thank you Frank, now the next obvious question :)Where do
% is an
industrial strength hydrogen peroxide solution.
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products have
particles that measure in the 30 to 144 nm range but are low enough in
concentration that no color is discernable.
The particles in Mesosilver measure 0.65 nm and it has peak absorption at
400 nm. The particles in Mesogold measure the same but the absorption peak
is at 520 nm.
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What exactly are you calling hype and claims?
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http://www.mesogold.com/mesogold.htm
They seem to have state of the art colloidal gold and lot of hype and
claims. Also just a lot of good solid info on colloidal gold. A lot of the
CG claims are mental, some are physical.
Dan
that a
particle of 0.65 nm diameter would consist of 9 atoms.
We like to think of it as science, not hype.
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because the particles are so large
that they would not stay suspended in water.
These products are known to cause argyria.
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/SEM-Images.htm
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It is the ions that impart the metallic taste. Silver particles have no
taste.
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From: S J Young you...@konnections.net
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Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 11:18 PM
Subject: CSCS Metallic Taste
Most of us can detect
to
saturate water filters, could the silver citrate be used as a
stabilizer, simply adding the stoiciometric amount necessary? This
would enable us to ship the CS for saturation of filters in other parts
of the country.
Reid
Frank Key wrote:
Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate
are only guessing about concentration. Unless you are adding citrate or
some other anion to the water it is unlikely it will get anywhere near 150
ppm. Unless the total silver is tested by a scientifically valid method
(atomic absorption/emission) you can't be sure what you have.
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From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
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Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am
. What remains is particles of
silver oxide whose diameter is 1 - 3 nanometers. It is these particles which
predominate in TEM images made of silver colloid solutions which have a high
ionic content.
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I don't recall doing zeta on that sample. If you want to send another
sample, I will do the size and zeta to help further your research.
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From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net
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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:35 PM
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We have not tested that product.
If you would send a factory sealed bottle, I will do the complete test suite
for publication on the Commercial Product Reports of silver-colloids.
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
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of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI
water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion
when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis.
The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate
anions.
frank key
on these issues see the Commercial Product Reports shown here:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 AM
Subject: CSA Good Read
Hello List,
Clifton
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Subject: Re: CSA Good Read
According to them they use a process after the CS is made that puts a
charge on
the particles. Did you do any zeta
the worst example of products labeled as colloidal silver.
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(gelatin).
For more details including the particle size distribution plot and the FT-IR
spectra plot see:
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Have you tested any of the granulated kelp for content of toxic heavy
metals, specifically, arsenic, mercury, and lead?
Would you please share a brand name you consider to be a high quality
kelp?
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is not used to produce
our current products which have sub-nanometer particles.
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Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: CS H2O2, ag(+), NaCl
Aha! Now we know more about the mysterious mesoprocess
exception to having my words twisted into unrecognizable and
inaccurate statements and then being attributed to me.
It is clear to me that no useful purpose is being served by further
exchange.
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repetition rates, peak pulse voltage in kilovolts. From the raw
data one could determine Coulombs, but we did not bother to do so.
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: CS H2O2, ag
A NST is a constant current source once the rated output current is
achieved.
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From: Harvey Norris harv...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:50 PM
Subject: CSVariac /NST/ Rectified CS cell trial
July 8th NST current
Re: CStestingWe will offer test your sample at no charge as a public service
if you would like to send us a sample.
Our lab uses an ICP/AES which is an atomic emission spectrometer. See:
http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/Equipment/VarianICP.html
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See: http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/
I am, of course, biased in my recommendation.
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:24 AM
Subject: CStesting
Hello all,
My name is Maryanne and this is the 2nd CS list I've
Expensive lab equipment has to earn its keep!
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: CStesting
Frank Key7/6/03 9:57 PM
I am, of course, biased in my recommendation
be accidental, such as the invention of the filament light
bulb by Thomas Edison.
ITOP development was superceded by research that led to the development of
the Mesoprocess which produces sub-nanometer sized particles.
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The electrons are supplied by current passing through the ionic solution
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hundred thousand G-forces causing them to mutually repel each other.
There is no force strong enough to overcome this force. Brownian motion is
not sufficient.
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Atomic absorption/emission will measure total silver which includes ions
and particles.
Here is the equipment used at CSL:
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can be found here:
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If your only means of determining the silver concentration is the
spectrophotometer how have you determined that the total silver in solution
is the same when the spectrophotometer will show a reduction?
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The mutual repulsion of ions is over one hundred thousand G-forces when they
are within an atomic diameters of each other. There is no known force that
will overcome such a high mutual repulsive force.
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mutual repulsion of the ionic charge.
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Small correction: 100 G-forces should have been written 100K G-forces. The
actual number is over 100,000 G-forces.
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Subject: Re: CSEIS
Frank Key
the cations are forced to
take an electron from a companion anion causing the cations to become atoms.
Atoms are pulled together by van der Waal's force forming particles.
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claimed. If the minerals are present but only in concentrations of parts per
trillion one could get the same mineral content from tap water.
We consider it a red flag when a product claims mineral content but does
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Internationally recognized standards of scientific notation are not
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they are simply selling 7 PPM and representing it to be 20 PPM?
A recent sample of Utopia Silver labeled 20 ppm (lot # 0306033) measured
9.78 ppm using an ICP/AES (atomic emission spectrometer).
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is a link to the online version:
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Your conversion factor is in error. Multiply 500 mL by 0.0338 to convert to
fluid ounces. (500 mL = 16.9 Ounces).
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Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSTitration Math
Hi
Jannette wrote:
I use a TDS meter calibrated for CS. I then multiply the PPM by 1.4 to
arrive at the approx. gold ppm.
You might consider having the concentration tested by atomic
absorption/emission to verify it. I doubt that the TDS measurement has any
validity.
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Jannette wrote:
Color: It has varied from clear (5-10PPM) to pale violet (10-15PPM) to
ruby
violet (15+PPM). The time has been from 5 - 71/2 hours.
How did you determine the concentration of gold achieved?
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From: silversw...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 5:45 AM
Subject: CSMild Silver Protein
Does
You might want to consider IMMUNE26.
Here is a link, but many companies sell this product:
http://immune26product.com/health/
I do not have any connection to this company or this product.
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From: Connie wufn...@stargate.net
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Indium is generally taken as a supplement in the form of indium sulphate.
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From: silversw...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: CSAppology for off-topic Anyone herd of Collodal INDIUM
I recently
I see colloidal minerals mentioned, but not colloidal silver. There is a
difference. Colloidal minerals generally refers to glacial water, etc.
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From: Tel Tofflemire
To: Silver List
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:23 AM
Subject: CSRE; CS
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