Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-13 Thread Ode Coyote
Done by anyone that wants to do it and rigorous left loosely defined. Any clinic can do a clinical trial. Triple Blind has distinct benchmarks and set requirements involving 3 separate groups of people. [at least 500 carefully screened people per group ?] ...costs several millions of dollars

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-12 Thread Dee
@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSClinical Trials David, Why do you care about clinical trials, I think its important to know the difference between a clinical trial and a lab test. If you don't, you will just look like a fool and get shot down pretty quickly as soon

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2014-08-12 Thread alchemysa
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@silverpuppy.com Date: 12 August 2014 3:20:11 AM Clinical trials are not considered proof of anything by the FDA Triple Blind Studies are. Several Clinical Trials have been performed with CS and all were dismissed by the FDA as they formed The Final Word

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2014-08-11 Thread alchemysa
On 11/08/2014, at 10:16 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com Date: 11 August 2014 9:18:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSClinical Trials David, Why do you care about clinical trials, I think its

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2014-08-11 Thread alchemysa
From: M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com Date: 11 August 2014 9:46:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSClinical Trials What is probably right, though, is to say that clinical trials have not and will not happen any time soon. Mike D. Its not hard to imagine that, under normal

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-11 Thread Alan Faulkner
The fact of the matter is that clinical trials have landed us many dud drugs that killed a lot of PPL, because clinical trials can be misleading, easy to manipulate, easy to create the outcome you want by manipulating the data and the trial proceedings. Science is so easy to corrupt that drug

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-11 Thread Marshall
One thing that is really bad is that drug companies are allowed to use anything they want as the placebo, then they are allowed to call it a sugar pill. Generally the only time they really use a sugar pill for a placebo is when testing drugs for diabetes. What is generally done is to use a

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-11 Thread Alan Faulkner
There is lots of tricks. Like if the scientists know that certain populations are more likely to be negatively impacted by the drug, in other words if older PPL or younger PPL cannot handle the side effects then they are excluded by the trials. They can exclude who they wish by certain tricks

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Clinical trials are not considered proof of anything by the FDA Triple Blind Studies are. Several Clinical Trials have been performed with CS and all were dismissed by the FDA as they formed The Final Word published in 1999 Ode On 8/11/2014 12:28 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: The fact of the

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-11 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Well said. My posts agree with you 100% Alan, so I think your question was intended for David or Mike? Victor On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com wrote: The fact of the matter is that clinical trials have landed us many dud drugs that killed a lot of PPL, because

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-11 Thread Alan Faulkner
Sorry Victor, when I get on a rant I usually make at least one blooper. Alan On 2014-08-11, at 15:12 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: Well said. My posts agree with you 100% Alan, so I think your question was intended for David or Mike? Victor On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Alan Faulkner

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2014-08-10 Thread alchemysa
From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com Date: 11 August 2014 1:33:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS Clinical Trials To: alchemysa There have been tons of clinical trials proving CS nanoparticle efficacy against all pathogens, without exception, including Ebola.

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-10 Thread Victor Cozzetto
David, Why do you care about clinical trials, the FDA, etc.? They do NOT establish fact, as you imply. We know for a fact that many clinical trials are falsified, and many, if not most drugs on the market are ineffective or do more damage than harm. As a society we are in trouble exactly because

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-10 Thread M.G. Devour
Victor asks David: Why do you care about clinical trials, the FDA, etc.? David replies: We do ourselves a disservice by claiming there is proof where there is none. Its a stick that our opponents will continually beat us with. Far better for us to

RE: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-10 Thread Doug
Thank you Mike! If you were to substitute vitamin C for CS in your message, it would be equally true and profound. Best regards, Doug -Original Message- From: M.G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 6:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSClinical

Re: CSClinical Trials

2014-08-10 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Well said Mike. I agree with you and David 99%, but I still have a point of contention about the clinical trials. My point is about keeping the people empowered. FDA approval and 'official' clinical trials should not be held as being more weighted than the 'other' evidence that you listed.