CSglass bottles

2004-10-29 Thread Tony Moody
Just to rock the boat a bit. I worked in a brewery and all the bottles had a very thin plastic lining melted on inside. This was specified to reduce breakages. No i do not know any more that; it was 20 years ago. Tony subject was Re: CS On 28 Oct 2004 at 10:28, Garnet wrote: Me too Sally. I

Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread Garnet
I read some time back, while researching MCS, that if the pan over heats and develops that rainbow look it is even more likely to be toxic for you. I have seen an SS Revereware pot do this. What a nice reason to invest in a good set of pots like Le Cruesette (sp). BTW the glass pots I looked at

CSNew Free On-line Medical Journal

2004-10-29 Thread Garnet
http://www.plosjournals.org/ PLoS Medicine is an open-access journal published by the nonprofit organization Public Library of Science. We have decided not to be part of the cycle of dependency that has formed between

CSB12

2004-10-29 Thread kent
Awhile back people were mentioning sublingual B12 and DMSO. I am wondering if liquid B12 (used for shots) is soluble in DMSO. Anyone know. Don't forget to drink your CS (gotta stay on-topic) I'd also like to say I'm amazed at the wealth of knowledge contained within this thread. Thanks

Re: CSB12

2004-10-29 Thread Garnet
Someone posted that information on the Gaylord Chemicals site I believe said it was not soluble. However it it did not say what form of B12. Sublingual is what Dr Mercola on Mercola.com suggests mixing with DMSO. It is a water soluble form and of course water is soluble in DMSO. Seems to work for

Re: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Actaully I think Mr. Beck showed that it was ionic silver, not colloidal silver, that promotes the healing, and causes reversion to stem cells for injured tissues. Of course EIS contains 80 to 90% ionic silver. Marshall David W Kenney wrote: Metalic silver electrodes were used in the 70's

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Dr. David W. Kenney
The colloidal silver would not form a salt. If it did then CS would be of no value if used orally. However, all CS generators produce both CS and ionic silver...the ionic silver would form silver chloride in the stomach almost instantly...and little if any...would get into the system. Just make

RE: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
Interestingly...nickel has been implicated as being present in high concentrations in the prostate of men with BPH. It indicated that the bacteria there survive on nickel as a requirement. Removing the nickel by chelation relieves the hypertrophy. I've not heard that it is carcinogenic.

Re: CSLive Bacteria (Joni)

2004-10-29 Thread Dan Nave
Is this injested orally? Re: CSLive Bacteria (Joni) From: T J Garland (view other messages by this author) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:51:37 I have found personally and with friends that CS with DMSO and a

Re: CSNew Free On-line Medical Journal

2004-10-29 Thread Sally Khanna
Thanks Garnet. Looks good Sally Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net wrote: http://www.plosjournals.org/ PLoS Medicine is an open-access journal published by the nonprofit organization Public Library of Science. We have

CSIn Vivo CS?

2004-10-29 Thread Dan Nave
I have wondered if a silver needle (electrode) could be inserted into a vein and then stimulated with an appropriately small and controlled current/voltage in order to get the effect of IV colloidal silver. Of course, this could be dangerous, but it may be something to think about,

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Garnet
I am not convinced that ionic silver forms silver chloride in the stomach. For one thing HCl, stomach acid, is only relesed when eating, its purpose is to provide the optimum acid pHh for the stomach enzymes to work on. But if there is no food there or digestion going on there is no HCl secretion.

Re: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Garnet wrote: I am not convinced that ionic silver forms silver chloride in the stomach. For one thing HCl, stomach acid, is only relesed when eating, its purpose is to provide the optimum acid pHh for the stomach enzymes to work on. But if there is no food there or digestion going on there

Re: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dr. David W. Kenney wrote: The colloidal silver would not form a salt. If it did then CS would be of no value if used orally. However, all CS generators produce both CS and ionic silver...the ionic silver would form silver chloride in the stomach almost instantly...and little if any...would

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Holmes
Could the metallic silver foil react in contact with food? -Original Message- From: Dr. David W. Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans The colloidal silver would not form a salt.

RE: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Holmes
Very interesting. I have been using Saw Palmetto tinciture with some success. Do you have a link to more detailed information on the process? Thank you in advance. JOH -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:29 AM To:

RE: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Holmes
I am not certain of this, but I recall having heard from some anecdotal source that the Teflon toxic out gassing is saran; nerve gas. -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:02 AM To: Silver List Subject: Re: CSStaniless

RE: CSIn Vivo CS?

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
Certainly possible and may be part of Dr. Becker's success. I am sure that a form of colloidal silver was generated in Dr. Becker's work. He was an orthopedic surgeon fed up with amputating peoples extremities because of non-unions. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave

Re: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
If the food has any organic sulfur in it at all, you will likely get silver sulfide, or tarnishing. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Could the metallic silver foil react in contact with food? -Original Message- From: Dr. David W. Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday,

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
I am not convinced that ionic silver forms silver chloride in the stomach. For one thing HCl, stomach acid, is only relesed when eating, its purpose is to provide the optimum acid pHh for the stomach enzymes to work on. But if there is no food there or digestion going on there is no HCl

RE: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
I have been using oral chelation...and since that time have not had to use Palmetto or any of the other proatate supplements Dr. Kenney -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE:

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
If you look back on the info on this site a person explained the term blue bloods from the medieval times. It was when the rich and famous (Kings, Queens, etc.) ate off of silver plates, silver goblets, silver (ware), etc. Over time these people developed a bluish tone to their skin (from the

CSMystery chelation

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Holmes
Is your recipe secret? -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSStaniless steel...watch out. I have been using oral chelation...and since that time have not had to use

RE: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
You are correct in the outgassing...I am not sure the type of gas though but you may be right... For example many pet birds have been lost in houses who cook with Teflon because of the gas released. Dr. Kenney -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Friday,

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Holmes
Do you have a cite(s) on that? JOH -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans If you look back on the info on this site a person explained the term

Re: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
David W Kenney wrote: If you look back on the info on this site a person explained the term blue bloods from the medieval times. It was when the rich and famous (Kings, Queens, etc.) ate off of silver plates, silver goblets, silver (ware), etc. Over time these people developed a bluish tone

RE: CSMystery chelation

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
No...I just purchase oral chelation products over the net I purchased Cardioclear from: http://www.smart-publications.com/ Also there is another product called nickel eliminator... From: NMS publishing: 718-871-1363 You have to be careful with chelating agents especially if you have any sort

Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
See http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Teflon/Canary-Teflon-ToxicosisAug03.htm Marshall David W Kenney wrote: You are correct in the outgassing...I am not sure the type of gas though but you may be right... For example many pet birds have been lost in houses who cook with Teflon because of

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
No...but someone else on this site mentioned it in the last couple of weeks. It is usually in all the literature about CS though. I will look one up if you like. I used to have several before my house burned. Dr. Kenney To site members: Does anyone else have a source for the blue Blood story?

CSSalt test for determining Ionic Silver Concentration

2004-10-29 Thread Dan Nave
To use the Salt test for determining Ionic Silver Concentration: Take a known volume of EIS (Electrically Isolated Silver) and add enough salt to it so that all the ionic silver combines to form AgCl. Since AgCl has a .8 ppm solubility, you should get a precipitate. Add distilled water (at an

RE: CSIn Vivo CS?

2004-10-29 Thread Ed Kasper
sounds like Japanese-style acupuncture. Method of superficially (shallow insertion of .5 cm) or simply laying needles on the skin using a Gold Needle and a Silver Needle. Some people respond very positively to this form of treatment. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Garnet
Mucous protects the stomach lining from HCl, without it we form ulcers in the presence of helobacter the bacteria associated with ulcers. The pH of the stomach is not constant, although without my reference physiology texts here in front of me I can not look up the range and if it ever reaches a

Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Thanks, that is a new one on me. Looks interesting though, think I will pick up some at the health food store tonight. http://www.askbillsardi.com/sdm.asp?pg=ip6_cleanse Marshall twllLL wrote: IP6 This stuff is suppose to chelate heavy metals from your body lots of other stuff.Its made

RE: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
The Canadian Department of health indicated that simple chlorine bleach is the major cause of breast cancerinteresting. SS other toxins, parasites, etc. may7 also be complicating factors. Dr. Kenney -Original Message- From: twllLL [mailto:twl...@direcway.com] Sent: Saturday, October

Re: CSSalt test for determining Ionic Silver Concentration

2004-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
I might add that the water needs to be cold water, warm water has a much higher solubility than the .8 ppm. Unfortunately my reference simply says cold water, so I am not sure if it is cold like from the tap (55-60 or so degrees F), or room temperature, 70 or so degrees F. Marshall Dan Nave

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
Marhall...very interesting. I'd never heard those stories. Thank you. Dr. Kenney -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Diet for dogs and humans David W Kenney wrote:

RE: CSIn Vivo CS?

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
A few months ago a veterinary journal came out with a report by Kentucky equine veterinarians. These are the ones that work on very expensive mares. You can imagine that getting a foal from one of these mares is a good economic thing to do. In any case, they had mares with very chronic

RE: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
Great site... Thanks -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out. See http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Teflon/Canary-Teflon-ToxicosisAug03.htm

RE: CSSalt test for determining Ionic Silver Concentration

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
Are you assuming that every CS generator produces an exact and reproducible ratio of CS to ionic silver? Seems like they would have to for the following to be correct. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:36 AM To:

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
Certainly the Acid concentration varies. How much is available and not almost immediately combined to a non-ionic organic form is not known to me. Suggests the need for some sophisticated research doesn't it? -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent:

RE: CSSalt test for determining Ionic Silver Concentration

2004-10-29 Thread Dan Nave
Well, testing it should show what the generator makes, and whether it is consistent. I think this test might be good for home use. Tests don't have to be complicated or expensive to work... Any comments on the proposed method? Maybe one of the Mikes could try it out... ;-)) If I have time,

RE: CSIn Vivo CS?

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
As many of you probably know the government (FDA) is attempting to totally wipe out alternative medicine in the US. There are bills out there to go along with WHO standards meaning that all nutritional supplements will be by prescription...and all over the counter supplements will have the minimum

RE: CSSalt test for determining Ionic Silver Concentration

2004-10-29 Thread Dr. David W. Kenney
Since everyone is using distilled water...then resistivity should be proportional to the ionic component. I have no idea if the CS portion causes any resistancedoes anyone know of a source that details this. I would imagine those labs that do CS testing have all this data. In any case, the

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Garnet
Actually there is another more plausible explanation for this the term that predates medieval times. Seems that someone on this list posted it recently, it escapes me at the moment. sorry, Garnet On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 12:05, David W Kenney wrote: If you look back on the info on this site a

CStreatment of severe dental disease in a pet rabbit

2004-10-29 Thread sol
The bunny's owner sent me this information, and I have permission to share it, and thought it might be interesting to the list. sol Cadbury was first diagnosed with dental disease in the fall of 1999, at the age of one. She started out needing filings every 6 months, then every 3 months. At

Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread sol
So if I get this stuff and use it a couple months a year, do I still have to throw out my brand new set of SS pans? And here was me, thinking I was doing good by gradually getting rid of aluminum pans over the years. sol twllLL wrote: IP6 This stuff is suppose to chelate heavy

CSIonic or Not?

2004-10-29 Thread James Allison
Hi everybody, I just re-subscribed to the list (been gone for over a year I think), and wanted to say hi, so... Hello! Anyhow, I have a quick question that hopefully somebody can help me out with (Maybe Dr. Kenney?)... Quoting the book Noble Metals and Biological Systems... There are

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Sally Khanna
I haven't ever seen that, but it's only used with sweets at least wfrom what I've seen. Sally Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net wrote: Could the metallic silver foil react in contact with food? -Original Message- From: Dr. David W. Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday,

Re: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Brickeyk
In a message dated 10/29/2004 8:25:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, garnetri...@earthlink.net writes: to work on. But if there is no food there or digestion going on there is no HCl secretion. I take Nexium daily for Barrets Esophagus, and have been taking it going on three years. Nexium is said to

Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread HRBE
Hang on, isn't pure stainles steel is NON-MAGNETIC, or am I wrong? John in Australia - Original Message - From: Alan Clough airc...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:01 PM Subject: Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out. You may want to re-think

RE: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Garnet
Absolutely. Conjecture and speculation are simply that. Without repeatable observations in situ we really do not know. Garnet On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:06, David W Kenney wrote: Certainly the Acid concentration varies. How much is available and not almost immediately combined to a non-ionic

CSIonic or Not?

2004-10-29 Thread David W Kenney
Hi! thanks for your answer, but for some reason it came direct to me, could you please resend it to... silver-list@eskimo.com So that others on the list can read and respond? Thanks so much! -James Allison - Original Message - From: David W Kenney drd...@mindspring.com To: 'James

RE: CSIn Vivo CS?

2004-10-29 Thread Garnet
Still some regular phsicians like my daughter's maxillo facial surgeon in Austin, TX who removed her wisdom tooth listen when we take the time to educate them. He allowed me to bring DMSO CS to his office, trusted my formulation and information and applied it immediately after the extraction. I

Re: CS Diet for dogs and humans

2004-10-29 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
In Vivo Veritas. On Saturday, Oct 30, 2004, at 00:14 Asia/Tokyo, Garnet wrote: Since no one has done in vivo studies of the stomach environment when CS is added and actually measured / detected silver chloride I do not buy this theory out of hand. Besides why is my home made CS so effecitve

Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread Teri Johnston
I also just purchased a very good set of Stainless Pots and did the magnet check and it didn't stick. No rainbows either. Teri - Original Message - From: HRBE h...@bigpond.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:47 PM Subject: Re: CSStaniless

Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread shakman
This page should help with your question: http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae546.cfm Cheers HRBE h...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hang on, isn't pure stainles steel is NON-MAGNETIC, or am I wrong? John in Australia - Original Message - From: Alan Clough To: Sent: Friday,

Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread twllLL
IP6 This stuff is suppose to chelate heavy metals from your body lots of other stuff.Its made from rice bran extract. You don't need to take it all year long. Take it for a couple of months twice a year. Hulda Clark says SS gets into womens breast causes breast cancer too. - Original

Re: CSStaniless steel...watch out.

2004-10-29 Thread twllLL
I just tested my cheap SS pot with a magnet it stuck. It also has that rainbow in it. In Bill Sardi 's book THE IRON TIME BOMB he says all steel cookware leeches out iron.Iron overload is a undiagnosed problem causing all sorts of illnesses. - Original Message - From: HRBE