Re: difference between bundles and dependencies in s6-rc

[Brett Neumeier]

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Casper Ti. Vector 
wrote:

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​Thanks for the link -- that also answers my question.

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Re: difference between bundles and dependencies in s6-rc

[Casper Ti. Vector]

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On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 03:58:15PM -0500, Brett Neumeier wrote:
> If there is a functional difference -- what is it?

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Re: difference between bundles and dependencies in s6-rc

[Colin Booth]

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 03:58:15PM -0500, Brett Neumeier wrote:
> Hello Skaware!
> 
> I'm in the process of setting up s6 and s6-rc as the init and service
> management systems for my linux system, and am curious: is there a
> significant functional difference between a bundle service, and a oneshot
> atomic service that does nothing but declares a bunch of other services as
> dependencies?
> 
> If there is a functional difference -- what is it?
> 
Hi Brett,

Getting a few things out of the way first, just so we're on the same
page.

Dependencies are ordering constraints: A depends on B depends on means
that to bring up A, you first need to start B, which first requires C. 

Bundles are groupings of services: Bundle 1, containing A, B, and C, can
be used as a shorthand to address all of those but internally there
aren't any ordering guarantees (unless A, B, and C also have
interdependencies).

The functional difference then is this: telling a bundle to go up or go
down (especially important in the down case) will signal all contents of
that bundle to change state (in addition to anything that depends on
anything within the bundle or the bundle itself), whereas telling a
syncronization oneshot to go down will leave the stuff that it depends
on untouched. 

In my own setups, I do both: I have essentially run-level bundles
(bndl-init, bndl-local, bndl-lan, bndl-all) that contain all the things
needed to make that level work. I then have a synchronization oneshot
that depends on those bundles and is a member of the next bundle up the
chain (so ok-init depends on init, and lives in local). That way, I can
go to a minimally functional state (init only) without having to mess
around with s6-rc shutting down udev or trying to remount half my disks.
Services that have specific requirements take a dependency on the atomic
in question, whereas things with wider-sweeping requirements like xdm or
a web server take a dependency on the synchronization point.

Cheers!
-Colin

difference between bundles and dependencies in s6-rc

[Brett Neumeier]

Hello Skaware!

I'm in the process of setting up s6 and s6-rc as the init and service
management systems for my linux system, and am curious: is there a
significant functional difference between a bundle service, and a oneshot
atomic service that does nothing but declares a bunch of other services as
dependencies?

If there is a functional difference -- what is it?

Cheers,

Brett

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