RE: [sniffer] New virus...

2005-10-06 Thread John T (Lists)
No need to block zips, with Declude just add BANZIPEXTSON to your
virus.cfg file since the payload is an exe within the zip and since we are
all already banning executable files, correct?

John T
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 Hello sniffer,
 
   Hello folks... watch out for a new virus email with an attachment
   named pword _ change . zip - extra spaces added to skip filters
   ;-)
 
   We're adding some SNF rules to catch it. No word about it on virus
   lists or scanner services yet (that I can see).
 
   You may want to temporarily block .zip files - or at least this
   particular zip file until the new rules can be pushed out and the
   virus scanners catch up.
 
 Thanks,
 _M
 
 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
 Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)
 Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)
 
 
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RE: [sniffer] New virus...

2005-10-06 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I suppose it depends on just deep the sniffer signature goes...

Previous viruses including Sober.* have come in waves, with variants
that skirt all but the most intrusive antivirus blocking schemes.

I submitted a sample to the Norman Sandbox, which turned up different
information than the McAfee, Trend Micro et al writeups.  I googled the
CLSIDs that turned up and didn't come up with much, but a fascinating
thing was that they also hit on previous Norman Sandbox entry that
Google happened to have in its cache from Sep-25-2005.  Maybe the bad
guys are testing their software there before release? Hmmm...

So anyhow... If sniffer is *so* amazing that it could identify the CLSID
within an executable within a zip file within a MIME segment of a
message file, well, that would certainly be amazing, now wouldn't it?

I figure the CLSID is unlikely to change as quick as the distribution
method and packaging.

Andrew 8)

P.s. We'll see how well the shiny new Common Malware Enumeration scheme
pans out.  So far, the vendors' names for the malware are quite
different.


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists)
 Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:02 AM
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 Subject: RE: [sniffer] New virus...
 
 No need to block zips, with Declude just add BANZIPEXTS  
 ON to your
 virus.cfg file since the payload is an exe within the zip and 
 since we are all already banning executable files, correct?
 
 John T
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  To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
  Subject: [sniffer] New virus...
  Importance: High
  
  Hello sniffer,
  
Hello folks... watch out for a new virus email with an attachment
named pword _ change . zip - extra spaces added to skip filters
;-)
  
We're adding some SNF rules to catch it. No word about it on virus
lists or scanner services yet (that I can see).
  
You may want to temporarily block .zip files - or at least this
particular zip file until the new rules can be pushed out and the
virus scanners catch up.
  
  Thanks,
  _M
  
  Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
  President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster 
  (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)
  
  
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Re: [sniffer] New virus...

2005-10-06 Thread Darin Cox
That's only in Virus Pro, right?  I don't think BANZIPEXTS is available in
Standard or Lite.

Darin.


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From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:01 AM
Subject: RE: [sniffer] New virus...


No need to block zips, with Declude just add BANZIPEXTS ON to your
virus.cfg file since the payload is an exe within the zip and since we are
all already banning executable files, correct?

John T
eServices For You

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:41 PM
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 Subject: [sniffer] New virus...
 Importance: High

 Hello sniffer,

   Hello folks... watch out for a new virus email with an attachment
   named pword _ change . zip - extra spaces added to skip filters
   ;-)

   We're adding some SNF rules to catch it. No word about it on virus
   lists or scanner services yet (that I can see).

   You may want to temporarily block .zip files - or at least this
   particular zip file until the new rules can be pushed out and the
   virus scanners catch up.

 Thanks,
 _M

 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
 Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)
 Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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Re: [sniffer] New virus...

2005-10-06 Thread Joe Wolf / Internet Specialists, LLC
If you are running your mail server only for yourself feel free to ban 
.exe's and .zip's.  If you are providing mail services to others I STRONGLY 
suggest you consult an attorney that specializes in Internet related 
matters.  There have been a couple of recent cases where ISP's have been 
held responsible for non-delivery of messages.


I asked two for an opinion on the matter and was told that we should not 
block or hold any messages unless we believe them to be a specific threat to 
our systems.  After the smoke cleared we came to the conclusion that it's OK 
to block known viruses and threats, but they had to be known.  We no 
longer hold or delete any known SPAM.  We let the users or domain admins 
determine via rules what they want to block.


I also checked with our errors and omissions insurance provider and was told 
that we would not be covered for non-delivery issues if it was a deliberate 
act on our part to block them.


This has become a hot issue that few want to discuss.  It's nearly 
impossible to find an attorney well versed in the field.  As more become 
aware of the issue I suspect it will become a popular point to litigate (has 
your ISP caused you damage by failing to deliver important information?, 
etc.).


The bottom line is that if you block items like all .exe's or all .zip's you 
are taking the responsibility for non-delivery.  In the two cases I found 
one had a disclaimer, and the other a written TOS.  It didn't help either in 
court.


Just be very careful.

-Joe
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To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: [sniffer] New virus...


No need to block zips, with Declude just add BANZIPEXTS ON to your
virus.cfg file since the payload is an exe within the zip and since we are
all already banning executable files, correct?

John T
eServices For You


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Subject: [sniffer] New virus...
Importance: High

Hello sniffer,

  Hello folks... watch out for a new virus email with an attachment
  named pword _ change . zip - extra spaces added to skip filters
  ;-)

  We're adding some SNF rules to catch it. No word about it on virus
  lists or scanner services yet (that I can see).

  You may want to temporarily block .zip files - or at least this
  particular zip file until the new rules can be pushed out and the
  virus scanners catch up.

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)
Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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[sniffer] New virus...

2005-10-05 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello sniffer,

  Hello folks... watch out for a new virus email with an attachment
  named pword _ change . zip - extra spaces added to skip filters
  ;-)

  We're adding some SNF rules to catch it. No word about it on virus
  lists or scanner services yet (that I can see).

  You may want to temporarily block .zip files - or at least this
  particular zip file until the new rules can be pushed out and the
  virus scanners catch up.

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)
Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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