Re: [RCSE] Your Genie LT/S Plane finder

2007-12-04 Thread TJB
If you are serious about the plane finder: These are the least expensive type http://toys.search.ebay.com/lost_Radio-Control_W0QQsacatZ2562 This is the system I use: http://www.com-spec.com/Amateur_Radio/index.html Then there's the very expensive Walston

[RCSE] Your Genie LT/S Plane finder

2007-12-04 Thread Ed Anderson
Here is an article on the Eastern Soaring League web site about Lost plane locators. Some also serve as battery monitors. I use several of them. http://forums.flyesl.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=237 I prefer the Sky King and the Walston units that are discussed Best regards, Ed Anderson Re:

Re: [RCSE] Fw: 3m gnome kit - Kit (ID: 346351)

2007-12-04 Thread ZULIM SUZAN
There's a heavy price to pay if you ever say anything nice about or to Gordy. Cliff Lindgren.still lurking in the shadows. - Original Message From: Brian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 5:58:34 AM Subject: [RCSE] Fw: 3m gnome kit

Re: [RCSE] Soprano????

2007-12-04 Thread Canardin
I have a few new Sopranos available. Mark miller Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2007, at 10:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone cleaning out their closet and want to sell their Soprano? .. Reece More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail!

[RCSE] Slimer power pods

2007-12-04 Thread Brian Smith
Trying to sell a couple items for my grandson. I have a factory built power pod with a nice COX TD 051 on it.. It took my grandsons GL OOS with no problems. I'm told these COX engines are no longer produced and are in demand.. I just don't know about that issue.. I'm ask $50 for that one

[RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?

2007-12-04 Thread Steve Gibson
Does anybody discount the 2.4 JR 9303 systems below Horizons direct order pricing ? Thanks, S Gibson

RE: [RCSE] What if they had an LSF election and no one reported the results?

2007-12-04 Thread TG Bean
What kind of beer Gordy? Thats all I need to make the picture complete. Ya dog. :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:48:01 -0500Subject: [RCSE] What if they had an LSF election and no one reported the results?To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I am sitting on the 6

Re: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?

2007-12-04 Thread Doug McLaren
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:22:28AM -0600, Steve Gibson wrote: |Does anybody discount the 2.4 JR 9303 systems below Horizons direct |order pricing ? The best price I'm aware of is at http://www.toddsmodels.com/, where a X9303 2.4 A/S Tx w/DSM 9 Ch Rx No SXS Mode 2 is $530. I believe the

Re: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?

2007-12-04 Thread Joe Rodriguez
This Radio is backordered due to limited supply and high demand I do not think anybody is doing heavy discounting. One just sold on RC groups and sold in 30 sec. sj - Original Message - From: Steve Gibsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSoaring Exchangemailto:soaring@airage.com

RE: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?

2007-12-04 Thread Tom Copp
Hello, JR products are MAP priced so no one can advertise below a set cost. Big Lift! Tom Copp Composite Specialties JR Dealer! www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Doug McLaren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:02 AM To: Steve Gibson Cc:

Re: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?

2007-12-04 Thread Joe Rodriguez
Toddsmodels web site says $630 for the x9303 2.4 - Original Message - From: Doug McLarenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Gibsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: RCSoaring Exchangemailto:soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Discounts

RE: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?

2007-12-04 Thread Jim Monaco
Hmm - what is MAP priced? Isn't that price fixing? I thought that was illegal? Jim Jim Monaco -Original Message- From: Tom Copp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:17 AM To: 'Doug McLaren'; 'Steve Gibson' Cc: 'RCSoaring Exchange' Subject: RE: [RCSE]

[RCSE] ** Holiday pricing!! Airtronics STYLUS Modules**

2007-12-04 Thread Joe Rodriguez
Here is a deal of the year in RCSE Land..It cant get better than this. BLOWING OUT THE LAST OF MY AIRTRONICS GEAR!!! For all you Guy's on the Stylus here is a way to change frequency on a crowded day at your flying site. Ok !! Santa's coming and I have some new toy's in the bag so let's cut

Re: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?

2007-12-04 Thread Ben Wilson
MAP pricing is Minimum Advertised Pricing. It's usually just an agreement between the distributor/mfg'er and the seller to not *advertise* anything below that price. They can still sell it to you at whatever they'd like. Jim Monaco wrote: Hmm - what is MAP priced? Isn't that price

Re: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?

2007-12-04 Thread johnfruge
It still seems to be a form of price fixing. I see many CO's doing it in the RC world. Castle, TP, I am sure there are others! Just my thoughts. John Fruge -- Original message -- From: Ben Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MAP pricing is Minimum Advertised Pricing. It's

Re: [RCSE] Discounts on JR 2.4 systems ?

2007-12-04 Thread Doug McLaren
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:29:02AM -0800, Joe Rodriguez wrote: |Toddsmodels web site says $630 for the x9303 2.4 Indeed it does. To be more precise, it says `Minimum Advertised Price* $629.99' for this particular model (without servos.) However, when you add it to your cart, it says

[RCSE] SOLD ** Holiday pricing!! Airtronics STYLUS Modules**

2007-12-04 Thread Joe Rodriguez
SOLD SOLD SOLD... sombody got a great deal...Merry Christmas HO HO ho (-: sj - Original Message - From: Joe Rodriguezmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE (E-mail)mailto:soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:58 AM Subject: [RCSE] ** Holiday pricing!!

[RCSE] Fw: 2.4/ Horizon/good guy alert

2007-12-04 Thread Brian Smith
Sorry for re-posting.. This really makes me wonder.. It did not come up because I'm a friend of Gordy's?? Brian - Original Message - From: Brian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: 2.4/ Horizon/good guy alert I have

Re: [RCSE] Your Genie LT/S Plane finder - short range

2007-12-04 Thread TJB
I made some of these and they are okay. I could hear it down in the woods (still hard to track) up to about 1/10 th of a mile. http://www.rc-cam.com/lma.htm The Communications Specialits inc ones work well. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;

[RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread Craig Allen
I'm just curious as to why all the talk is about the JR 2.4 system? From everything I have read, the Futaba 2.4 is the only one to use true spread spectrum and is a much better system that the JR... Like I said I'm just curios. So flame away :-) Craig

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread david . jensen
Now if Futaba would just provide the superior sailplane programming the JR 9303 has I would consider switching. JR was the first to bring SS to the market and Futaba has some catch up to do. -- Original message -- From: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm just

[RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread Ed Anderson
Craig, There are several factors why the JR 9303 2.4 is getting more press than the Futaba. 1) This is a soaring list serve and the 9303 has received much greater acceptance as a 6+ servo sailplane radio than any of the Futaba transmitters. 2) Futaba entered the 2.4 GHz market with a very

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread Bill's Email
Ed Anderson wrote: Craig, There are several factors why the JR 9303 2.4 is getting more press than the Futaba. 1) This is a soaring list serve and the 9303 has received much greater acceptance as a 6+ servo sailplane radio than any of the Futaba transmitters. True enough. Unfortunately not

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread Phil Barnes
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now if Futaba would just provide the superior sailplane programming the JR 9303 has I would consider switching. As a long time Futaba user but also a guy who keeps looking at the JR9303 and wondering; Should I switch? I'd be

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread Jack Iafret
The Profi 4000 has all of the 14MZ functions that count (sorry- no audio) plus' several more that most sailplane guys will never use but are there for the really technical applications. Not very popular because of the style but it is fantastic if you use a tray or strap. Programming is really

[RCSE] re: Laser 2M rudder-fin size

2007-12-04 Thread Frank Jarratt
The full size drawing of the built-up (movable) portion of the Rudder for the NSP 2M Laser measures 9 11/16 tall at the hinge line, 2 3/16 wide at top, and 3 wide at the bottom. Frank Jarratt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread Jon Stone
Phil Barnes wrote: I've never had any Futaba transmitter above the 9Csuper so maybe other can tell me what those high end Futaba transmitters can do that a 9Csuper can't. These rcgroups threads might be useful. I have not read them. Differences in 9C and 9303? JR 9303 vs Futaba 9c Jon

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread B. Chan
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've never had any Futaba transmitter above the 9Csuper so maybe other can tell me what those high end Futaba transmitters can do that a 9Csuper can't. Phil May be a little more progemas but you get more little holes in the

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread Darwin N. Barrie
The 14 is in a completely different league than the 4000. Off hand several features, sythesized, shift selectable. memory card, computer upgradeable, channel expanders, etc Sailplane capability are probably similar except the 14 is 2048 capable and will soon have the 2.4 module and

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 Gig JR v Futaba ???

2007-12-04 Thread Darwin N. Barrie
The 14 is in a completely different league than the 4000. Off hand several features, sythesized, shift selectable. memory card, computer upgradeable, channel expanders, etc Sailplane capability are probably similar except the 14 is 2048 capable and will soon have the 2.4 module and

[RCSE] 2.4 GHz

2007-12-04 Thread bgtwining
I tried to respond to Jack Iafret's posting but got bounced by the system so I am posting this separately. I agree with Jack that the Profi has very powerful programming. However, I traded mine for 2 - 12 Ch Evos because, for me, the programming is even easier, although with a few less options

[RCSE] Re: FOR SALE Airtronics RD8000 Radio

2007-12-04 Thread blpalmer76
If you still have it I will take it. Do you also have the crystal? Can I see some pictures of it? -- blpalmer76 blpalmer76's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=179882 View this thread:

[RCSE] Re: FOR SALE Airtronics RD8000 Radio

2007-12-04 Thread blpalmer76
What all is included? I am very interested in it. Joe Rodriguez Wrote: Guy's I'm blowing out the Airtronics 72Mhz gear as I am on 2.4... Ok I know this is not a LANDMARK radio (-: but wow did I start something or what.. but I am in a giving mood this is a great radio for electrics 3D and

[RCSE] Re: DLGs = Bang for the Buck, NO WAY; Benchmarks- Get Real.

2007-12-04 Thread schrederman
OK... First Houston Hawk cost $130.00... retired at 250 flight hours in 1221 flights. Second Hawk was $112.00... 10 hours and sold for a larger sum than I'll disclose. Third Hawk was $120.00... add $55.00 for a newly aquired fuselage, $26.00 for Monokote, and $8.00 for a new 7075T6 joiner...

[RCSE] Re: Winch Battery???

2007-12-04 Thread DACeller
All such batteries need to 'vent' when being charged. Keep that in mind. I've been using a Resolute brand deep cycle, a regular lead/acid 12V battery. It's now Four years old. I bought two of them at the time, using one on my boat for electrics and the other for winch purposes and alternate

[RCSE] For Sale

2007-12-04 Thread Dudley Dufort
RnR 914, with new Scott Meader - Eagle fuse. Gear included. Ready for fly. $750 Respond for pictures and more info. Dudley RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe

[RCSE] FOR SALE Multiplex Cockpit Radio

2007-12-04 Thread Joe Rodriguez
BLOWING OUT THE 72Mhz Stuff This is a cute little radio Selling for $85 includes shipping CONUS and a great deal if you snooze on this one!!! you will loose Radio in excellent condition comes with manual and special charge plug to fit Sirius charger JR/Airtronics shift smokinjoe

[RCSE] 2.4 G Futaba v JR, ..... Thanks :-)

2007-12-04 Thread Craig Allen
I just want to thank everyone for the very thoughtful and informative post. I was expecting a lot of flames :-) hehe Just a little background... I left Soaring in 1979 after moving to LA to work in the Film Industry. I took my trusty Kraft 4ch transmitter and my Super Esprit, White Trash and

Re: [RCSE] Your Genie LT/S Plane finder

2007-12-04 Thread jcarlton3
Thanks everyone for the info on plane locators. Great resource we have here, RCSE! Jim Ed Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is an article on the Eastern Soaring League web site about Lost plane locators. Some also serve as battery monitors. I use several of them.

[RCSE] Re: Futaba 9C / JR9303

2007-12-04 Thread David Register
I have both (both are heli versions). Bought the JR on the way home from Polecat in June after getting a lot of good advice on 'up-grading'. Both are programmed for discus and 6 servo open class planes as well as a few electrics. Discus, in particular, requires some unique setups. The 9C Super

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 G Futaba v JR, ..... Thanks :-)

2007-12-04 Thread Kevin O'Dell
On Dec 4, 2007, at 11:07 PM, Kevin O'Dell wrote: As far as Spread Spectrum systems. From purely an engineering point of view, the Futaba system is by far more reliable.. Sure the JR system might work just fine. Although we have already heard reports of problems with satellite

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 G Futaba v JR, ..... Thanks :-)

2007-12-04 Thread David Jensen
If you bought a transmitter one year earlier you would have gotten the Futaba 8ua you would not be flying because you would not be able to program it. - Original Message - From: Craig Allen To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: [RCSE] 2.4 G

Re: [RCSE] 2.4 G Futaba v JR, ..... Thanks :-)

2007-12-04 Thread Craig Allen
Ha ha Ha :- Your right! As it was a brand new product when I bought it :-))) But then I would only have Woman as a hobby Hm :-) David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you bought a transmitter one year earlier you would have gotten the Futaba 8ua you would not be flying

Re: [RCSE] Spread Spectrum Differences

2007-12-04 Thread Kevin O'Dell
I guess my first question is you are a EE student and not an amateur radio operator? At any rate 802.11b, depending on the data rate, is probably direct sequence spread spectrum..a good explanation of the differences can be found in the ARRL Handbook for Radio