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Here's a format that's fair to everyone and no hurt feelings at the
end of the contest.
We'll let everyone launch whenever they want and fly for whatever
they can accomplish. When they land we'll rub their heads and tell
them what a great job they did and give them a max score. If they
Guys,
I've flown a variant of Tim's proposal at SLNT on quite a few occasions
in their Class-A Scramble event. It's a great task, gets the load off
the CD and keeps pilots involved all the way through the event.
Extending it to TD classes is a really interesting approach and
addresses a lot
- Original Message
From: Tim Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...in a real
contest, 9 points or less out of ten, which corresponds to 900 or less out
of 1000, is a low score.
So what do you do when you have a typical OVSS field where 4 out of the 7 guys
come within
Now who is arguing for political correctness? Thanks for your interest,
anyway.
Remember that the format is not precision. Everybody who caught the air just
flies past the target time and lands within the thirty seconds to collect
their ten points. If somebody landed early while somebody else was
- Original Message
...Everybody who caught the air
just flies past the target time and lands within the thirty seconds to collect
their ten points
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Still,
you can have the odd situation where four guys make 10+, and one makes
9:59; if I understand it correctly, he gets
One time at an OVSS contest in Cincy, Rich Burnoski took me from 3rd to 22nd
all in one flight. The last round. I still love MOM. (smile)
But I never forget, and got even at the Gateway open about 3 yrs ago in the
last contest I think I ever flew in. YUP. I still love MOM. Brian
-
Interesting watching this discussion on Tim's formatand how
critical some people are of it. I applaud him for just trying
something different to mix it up a bit. Don't get me wrong...I love
to fly MOM and SMOM, but I almost prefer straight MOM, as I learn
more. In SMOM, you tend to rise
Tim,
I see and understand where you are going, and respectfully disagree. I fly
model sailplanes to compete and so a contest to me is a test of skills among
peers.
Like Golfing I work at every aspect of flying to improve my game in order to
get that edge on the less skilled, the less
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...To level the playing field and to reward players for not being prepared,
less skilled or less practiced...
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At first glance it appears to do that. But if you think about how this would
have worked at contests you have attended, you might conclude
Tim, well done. I really like the idea and the execution. I might try this
or a variant at one of our local contests.
Anyone that knows me knows that I am a competitor. I like the challenge. I
love MoM flight scoring, and can't get enough of FAI style flying. What I
really like about this
Rick, Good Points... What kind of Cookies are We talking here. Larry Jolly
Here's a format that's fair to everyone and no hurt feelings at the
end of the contest.
We'll let everyone launch whenever they want and fly for whatever
they can accomplish. When they land we'll rub their heads
Duh,
I can't believe I have to post this :-)
The biggest problem with Tim's Contest format is us all missing flying it.
Gordy
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Why not just have everyone fly for 10 minutes to qualify for a landing
attempt with 1 meter concentric divisions like f3J. After all, isn't
that what it's about? Why not give bonus points for landing if they are
within 2 seconds over the time. If they are short of 10 minutes then
zero flight
Actually you can do a lot better than par in golf. A better example is
skeet or trap shooting. The task is 100 targets and you can't get more than
100. As Chris says - ya only got to count the ones you missed - and at the
upper levels if that is 1 you can plan for your ride home... Ask me how
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...short of 10 minutes then zero flight points. Isn't that what all the top
experts do in each contest.
If you can't make the time, what makes you think you are good enough to get
landing points either?
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Which suggests a slight variation on the 10-9-8 etc.
I think you meant zero the landing points, not the flight points.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not just have everyone fly for 10 minutes to qualify for a landing
attempt with 1 meter concentric divisions like f3J. After all, isn't
that what it's about? Why not give bonus points for landing if
I hope you meant zero the landing points, not flight points.
Here on the east coast, and certainly at the NATs, there have been days
where even the top guys will miss a flight. Zeroing a flight is
ridiculous if you don't make the 10, because even those guys would miss.
I assume you are
Kudos to Tim Bennett for coming up with a new variation on his contest
format similar to one of his formats for HLG-size planes.
I agree with Dave Register's comments (see below). I flew in one of Tim's
Class-A Scramble events a couple of winters ago in Dallas (winter in Duluth,
NICE in
It's only a faster pace (getting a chance to fly again, that is) for those
pilots who don't/can't max. the task times, correct? If everyone is
maxing the task times than it is no faster than the traditional MoM format
if I am understanding these rules correctly.
With bigger planes and their
This is Match play, just like they do in FF. You either max the time,
or you are out!
It does not matter what time you set, just that it has to be maxed. If
you want to add difficulty, then just increase the flight time 1 or 2
minutes per round.
We did a type of this contest in DLG at Visalia
Nope, I MEAN no flight points because you never made the 10 minutes to
be able to qualify for any sort of landing. Well..I guess it eliminated
landing points too.
Brutal!
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From: Jeff Steifel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu,
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Ed - I think you'll need to set up an account and sign in to see the
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You can also find the info on Futaba's sight. I had to actually read
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GGGEE... I musta hit pretty close to home to have Gordo post that
much of a philosophical rant.
It's like this... when you start out with I don't know where you've
been etc. online, it can't help coming off as an insulting bunch of
crap, as others pointed out to you. You should remember that
Tim,
The idea of points based on landing order seems OK to me. However a
couple of details confuse me. Perhaps you can clarify.
1) 30 seconds to land when you are the last man up seems a bit harsh.
If everyone else is down because they failed to find lift, and I am 3/4
mile out and 1000 feet
Wait just a gosh darn minute.. You mean to tell me the Gordy is hanging
out at a four season resort with the most beautiful airframe(aka the
most beautiful woman he has ever seen) within view and he still has
time or makes time to write a batch of BS deep enough to float a
battleship.
Good morning,
I felt compelled to throw something out for comment, but we in the
Tidewater Model Soaring Society (TMSS) have been messing around with
club contest formats, as it seems many others have been doing. I was
the CD in December, and had a somewhat different event to try-out.
This topic always brings a chuckle to me.
Larry's idea is the only one (other than rolling dice or cutting cards)
that gives everyone an even chance to win with no regard for their
skills or equipment. If that's what you're looking for, that's the way
to go. But who's looking for that?
This topic always brings a chuckle to me.
Larry's idea is the only one (other than rolling dice or cutting cards) that
gives everyone an even chance to win with no regard for their skills or
equipment. If that's what you're looking for, that's the way to go. But who's
looking for that?
I've
One thing you have to be careful with on ground range checks is the
ground. Having the antenna just about on the ground really reduces
range. You get a a lot more repeatable test if the models is a foot or
so off the ground. 72 is similar, But 72 and 2.4 are quite a bit
different in
From the FAI web page. The second sentence fascinates me.
F3J - Thermal Duration Gliders
This class is very popular as it is a single task event with simple
rules. The competitors try to keep their models aloft for exactly 10
minutes and land as close as possible to a designated spot.
This is amazing. Someone comes up with a new idea on how to run a contest and
all I see coming from the masses is ridicule. I feel that someone who can
think outside the norm and takes a chance diserves a little more credit than
many of you are giving them. SMOM is not the only contest
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From: D M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From the FAI web page. The second sentence fascinates me.
F3J - Thermal Duration Gliders
This class is very popular as it is a single task event with simple
rules. The competitors try to keep their models aloft for exactly 10
Jeff
It is if you only go over the working time you get zero landing points
and a 30 point penalty in F3J.
Dr. Danny Williams D.C.
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Colorado Springs, Colorado
From: Jeff Steifel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: RCSE
It's been a long time since I flew it, but Triathalon seemed like a
challenging event for contests. Anyone still flying that?
Ron
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They Sure are It's hella of fun to launch off of Mono :-)
D M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excuse my ignorance I am new to the world of soaring. Are they
launching like this in international competition? Sounds fun.
VFBASS
Ron,
If you thought that there's been a lot of criticism about the latest
contest format suggestion in this forum, you should have been around for the
Triathlon discussion.
Jim Deck
Ok, so what if no one makes the time.
Does everyone get a zero.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope, I MEAN no flight points because you never made the 10 minutes to
be able to qualify for any sort of landing. Well..I guess it eliminated
landing points too.
Brutal!
Original
Hi gang, I just gotta chime in here.
I know Tim and have flown with him and the rest of the SLNT crew as
well as Tulsoar back in the day..I appreciate what Tim has thrown
out here for us to chew on..no one has said that anyone should
use this format in ALL contests, but it
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