[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #11425

2008-07-15 Thread Ed Anderson
It is always interesting to incorporate new ideas into our contests. I see this has having 3 effects: 1) Pretty much eliminates all the light wood and many bagged wing planes from the contest. You will need an F3J moldie, a spar based bagged wing or a carbon capped wood wing to take this all

Re: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread Wwing
In a message dated 07/14/2008 8:21:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After watching the World F3J I had an idea for a contest... Incorporate the time penalty on tow that they have in F3J but in a TD format. You would have a timer at each winch who would time your launch

[RCSE] US F3J Team Raffle Closing

2008-07-15 Thread Jim Monaco
OK guys last chance to enter the raffle. At 5:00PM today the website ordering page will be turned off. The drawing will be tomorrow evening. http://www.usf3jteam.com Jim

[RCSE] Johnny Berlin's 8 hour task

2008-07-15 Thread D.O. Darnell
Attta Boy, John! Butch woulda been proud of Ya! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from

RE: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread chris
Craig, What is with messing around with winch time All minimizing winch time does is make planes go up faster, and have them built like composite bullets. Why not do something simple, like take the weight of the plane, mulitply it by seconds and get a max time you have to fly?? We once

Re: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread Jack Iafret
Wow, another how you launch discussion! Check out the 18 pages of stuff on RCGroups-Electric Sailplanes if you want to get all the in's and out's of launching in a TD contest with motors. It is under the F5J thread http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=883683. It is a worthwhile

Re: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread David Webb
That would be interesting. It could force short tows even in conditions that are nominal. It's also good discipline for learning short launches and low alt recovery. I think the added man power requirement and potential for human error would kill this if you added a launch time keeper at each

RE: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow added for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread Craig Allen
I think everyone has made good points... I like the idea of extra points for time on tow... I know it would be a lot harder to keep my Sharon on tow for the same time as my AvA... I'm just bored with TD I guess... Anyone want a Sharon? PS... This last weekend we should of had one of the best

[RCSE] Re: Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread D.O. Darnell
I think this kind of rule would particularly SUCK. You would have to employ additional personnel to officiate the contest (undesirable, unworkable, error prone). And, just think of how well this would work at big contests! NO, We DO NOT need more rules for TD. It works just fine as is.

Re: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread Mike Lachowski
Oh, cool, I can get my ultra high tech model with super expensive high modulus carbon to keep the weight down and have real fun Or I'll just pop off with my Bubble Dancer at .1 second. Shorter winch lines usually work better. Plus it gives the ligher models a better chance since they no

Re: [RCSE] Re: Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread Pat McCleave
Craig, I know you have been around long enough by now that you ought to know better than to try and mess with the old tried and true American TD. How dare you even consider it. You should be made to read nothing but Gordy Posts over and over for year. Actually I like your idea but no real

Re: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread Jo Grini
A very good answer Mike! I have been wanting shorter lines in F3J since 2002... But I have to go with the pack as the CIAM meeting said no this year to shorter lines. But to me it seems like more and more competitions in US are now both shorter lines and group scoring? That sounds like a good

Re: [RCSE] Johnny Berlin's 8 hour task

2008-07-15 Thread Johnny Berlin
WOWThank you everyone for all of the congrats on my 8 hour flight and getting my level V. It is not official yet, till the MAN Deck says so. What a wonderful journey, and experience it has been. I can only say, it was successful because of the many friends I have in this hobby.

Re: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread tony estep
- Original Message From: Mike Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...F3j with the current rules is broken. It is very much the luck of the timer. I know the past few team selections, which timer you had was good for a 1 second difference in flight time == Mike's point may

[RCSE] 8 hour task

2008-07-15 Thread soarx4
Johnny, You are a class act that has supported the hobby and Midwest contest circuit for as long as I have been around. You deserve this reward, and Butch would be proud. Besides, getting your Level V is the only conceivable excuse for missing the Fred last weekend. Mari even had chocolate

RE: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread Jim Monaco
There has been much talk about discriminating the scores more. There is a new F3J rule where the last 2 meters of the landing tape are graduated. Instead of the in/out hundred landing requirement, there will be more emphasis on the precision of the landing. It will be interesting to see if there

Re: [RCSE] Re: Contest idea....Time on tow +++++ for TD?

2008-07-15 Thread Craig Allen
My idea was just for one contest... Hell When I worked in the film industry and made 2-5 mill a year maybe I would of be interested in an all out carbon war.. But now I'm lucky to make $24,000 a year after breaking my back... I have the USA's oldest Sharon and a beat up AvA I was just

[RCSE] f3b Tomahawk for sale

2008-07-15 Thread Dave Hauch
Hi, All info here. Thx, Dave Hauch www.rc-builds.com

[RCSE] Gordy will be in Lansing this weekend for the contest...you?

2008-07-15 Thread GordySoar
Hi Guys I could use some info about the event and location. I am armed and dangerous, currently heading to Hell Boy 2 in Ludington Gordy **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!

[RCSE] flying in Oregon

2008-07-15 Thread Rick Bothell
My wife and I are going to visit several towns in Oregon in October. Perhaps on HWy 5 or HWy 101, Salem or south of Salem. Can anyone reccommend towns to visit, maybe 100 miles or less to a flying site? Anyone from that area going to the NATS or to Visalia Fall Fest? Let's get together and talk.

Re: [RCSE] flying in Oregon

2008-07-15 Thread Kai Yang
Rick, Please contact Portland Area Soaring Society (PASS). http://rchomepage.com/~passoari/ They are very active and some pilots there attend Visalia frequently. -Kai ※ 引述《Rick Bothell [EMAIL PROTECTED]》之郵件內容:My wife and I are going to visit several towns in Oregon in October. Perhaps on HWy

[RCSE] correct info- f3b Tomahawk for sale

2008-07-15 Thread Dave Hauch
Sorry, forgot the link. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=894466 Dave Hauch www.rc-builds.com - Original Message - From: Dave Hauch To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: [RCSE] f3b Tomahawk for sale Hi, All info here.

[RCSE] F3J Raffle Drawing Live on RCGroups

2008-07-15 Thread Jim Monaco
OK - the tickets are torn, the box loaded up, and the tickets are all mixed up. Tomorrow at 7:00PM MST I will have my daughter draw the winning numbers. As each number is drawn and the winner determined I will post to the group F3J Raffle Winners. I will post the entire list to RCSE when the