Hi Guys,
I hope someone can help. My computer has been down, and I am using a new
one. I no longer have my Compufoil program loaded, but I need to generate
and forward a .cor file ASAP. Can someone please create a NACA 0018 and send
to me please?
Sorry to see RCSE go.
Thx
D
Thanks guys for all the .cor files. There is no better community than the RC
soaring community.
OK, you can stop sending them now. ;-)
THANKS to all who replied.
D
As most of you know, I tend to sell my toys right after a contest - the Worlds is no different. I'm taking 3 virtually pristine Supras to represent US honor in about 2 1/2 weeks. I'll be selling 2 of them either at the contest, or upon my return. This trip is getting quite expensive, and we're
I don't want it back now... you've gone and reversed its juju.
Anyone have a Seiko I can... um... borrow? ;-)
D
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Hey Guys,
Looks like I have misplaced my lucky Seiko stopwatch - name scratched in
the back is Phil Lontz. I stole it fair and square from the Bozo
humself, Phil Lontz, and it has been around the world with me many
times. Last time I saw it was Sat. in Denver.
If anyone finds it in their bag,
Can someone please provide contact info, or have him ping me please?
Thx
D
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Darwin, thanks so much for the effort. And to all of you who have and
are contributing. We really thank you. I can't even begin to explain
what a monumental task (and expenditure) it is to organize and send a
team of 13 halfway around the world to compete. The AMA very generously
supports a
As I prepare for the upcoming World Champs, I'm getting rid of some hangar
queens. I haven't flown this model for a couple of years, but I've hung on
to it cuz I just love it.
Span: 145
Area: 1350 sq in.
Section: JW TDtry 19
AUW: 85 ounces
Airtronics 761's all the way around. Model was never
For those of you selling off your Stylus, or Styli (pl) due to 2.4,
Airtronics will have a 2.4 module and receiver very soon. I can't nail
them down to a date, as they're also working hard on our new 10 channel.
XPS also sells a module for the Stylus, and I have been using it in my
BumbleBee
If you weren't there, you missed a great contest. It was well run, and
the winch and line changes they made really made the difference. Darwin
told me unofficially there were only 3 line breaks all weekend. The
winches were quite zippy, but not ludicrously powerful. If they hadn't
told us they had
I know some guys get real creative about building out Supras to keep
them light. I didn't do that. All I did was to build out my newest Supra
with the hardware provided. It's the 2.4 ghz friendly Carbon-Lite and
new ailerons all the way to the tip version. Bumblebee colors - yellow
over black.
I
No need to even fly at the contest. Let's play paper/ scissors/ rock,
determine a winner, and let the drinking begin. Or no matter what
the task target time is, we'll just all agree to fly 3's. Heck, even
Gordy can make 3... off of a pop off.
Just jumping in and pokin some fun.
Screw that,
Hey guys,
Quick question for those of you servo experts. I fly solely Airtronics
equip - servos, radios, receivers... I don't pay attention to any other
manufacturers products. My Stalker utilizes a 6 servo wing. 761's are
good for the flaps, but for the 4 ailerons, 761's are overkill. I can
use
Hey guys,
It was quiet... a little too quiet... ;-)
Last week I rec'd my newest Supra from Barry Kennedy. They continually
upgrade their kit. The ailerons now go all the way to the tips. I don't
have anything to compare weight, but Barry said the tips are about 1
ounce lighter per side.
Mark, and gang,
This is not a new problem. Line breaks at contests due to ships getting
larger and winches more powerful have been a worsening problem for the
past few years. (Insert redneck twang here) This is America. We love
horsepower It's nice to see some clubs and individuals being
On the subject of resisting down to F3B strength:
I understand the argument and rationale. But This is a problem. F3B
winches are very well built and designed. They are very efficient. The
motors selected for use are already very close to the resisted number.
We play all kinds of games with
here's his response to my email entitled You shakin?:
Shake free here...
We are living in Christchurch on the east side of the south island. The
earthquake was near Gisborne on the north island, which is about 600 or
more miles from here. No worries mate!
Joe
Darylperkins.com LLC.
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Mike Smith pretty much hit the nail on the head. The problem isn't the
line. The problem isn't the size of the model. Our TD style winches are
unnecessarily strong. I'd love to see the winches restricted at major
contests.
I'm always going to fly large wingspan models at an UNLIMITED thermal
Original Message
Subject: RE: [RCSE] re:contest launch equipment vs large models
From: Gospodarek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 4:35 pm
To: Soaring soaring@airage.com, Daryl Perkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like the idea of a weak-link.
If you want a level
You Icon drivers get so dern judgemental. If you saw both models up
close, there is no way a High End could be mistaken for an Icon - the
High End is pretty.
I had the opportunity to fly the High End (Lousy name by the way), and
it flies quite nicely. I'm on the list. But then, I'm on a lot of
Professionally built by John Luetke (The Sharon
Maestro) Linkage is solid and smooth - no binding.
Over 1650 invested with servos... asking 1500 OBO.
I mentioned the ding in the LE. It is BARELY
noticeable. Not aerodynamic, strictly cosmetic.
All Airtrix Digi servos.
This is one straight
Red/White - slightly used. Just at the Masters. Almost
perfect, with one VERY minor ding in the LE on the
left tip. Otherwise, virtually new. Only 3 days flying
on it. I think we went 17 rounds.
Ping me offline for price and terms.
I won't be attending Visalia - this is a great Visalia
model.
Hi guys,
The WSM was a very good time. Great format!!! The
first 2 days... not what I would consider to be a true
soaring contest (Not organizers fault, but condition
oriented).. for the most part... the wind was blowing
so hard, it was more of a launch and hang... and get
lucky. Two HUGE
Hey now!!!
Karen won those servos. 8^)
and she gave them to me... course capn jack wanted
them back... ;-)
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Guys,
A recent boat catastrophe (Outdrive explosion)is
forcing the sale of my brand new, in the box, 1/3
scale DG 800. This is without a doubt the finest model
I have ever seen. Until you've seen one, you have no
idea how nice the fit and finish is, and how STIFF
this thing is. All carbon wings -
Many years ago Joe and I had his cross country
plane up to about 8500 ft. AGL. I don't recall the
exact number (it was 8500 and change), but he had one
of the first Casio altimeter watches, and we put it in
his sailplane. We could track the total altitude climb
and descent through the course
When I talk about being at 8500 ft... the stabs had
long since disappeared, the wings were literally
toothpicks, and were disappearing as well - the fuse
was non-existent. That's how Joe consistently beat the
pants off all the CC guys for all those years. The
plane was always in the optimum
You guys don't have to believe me... I had a tough
time believing it myself. But one of the arts of
cross country flying is keeping the model in the
correct location in relation to the vehicle -
virtually directly overhead. The reason for this is to
maintain visual. I've seen the guys in Muncie
I learned a long time ago that by coupling flaps to
ailerons the model would track better. (And yes, every
model) My first experience with this was with a slope
racer (Swift 800) with a short tail moment, and
undersized V-tail. I had trouble getting it to track
properly at different ballasted
... or is it awfully quiet regarding the F3J world
championships?
Big congrats to the US Juniors Nice job guys!
Congrats to the US Team! Nice job guys!
Way to go David!
Most of you will never know the amount of commitment
and effort that goes into representing your country at
a world
Dave,
What a great post. Thank you. You're right on about
the MH32 being a poor choice for a 2M section. I don't
like it for open class TD either. Drela has done a
good deal of optimization on sections for us, and he's
got a pretty good idea of what works in the real
world. Definitely a good idea
No... I'm not looking for a Duck... Troy, can you ping
me back with contact numbers please?
Thx,
D
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Need a real 2M for the Nats. Anyone?
No Ducks
No Monarchs
Nothing that'll blow up
I don't need to fly it until the morning of, so you
could just bring it with ya
Ping me offline
Thx,
D
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go here for an explanation of the tasks -
http://www.silentflight.org/F3B/F3BTasks.html
There are lots of ways to get involved in F3B. The
best is finding a group of guys in your area that are
interested in learning and flying. It's very much a
team sport. The initial investment can be a bit high
Jeff writes:
Speed:Speed is considered the luck factor. You
don't fly MOM
WRONG This is a common misconception amongst many
pilots. I will say one thing... the fastest pilot on
the field will win. You have 4 minutes of working time
to optimize your slot. Sometimes you get sink..
Hi guys,
I have one more spot open in the twin Cessna 421
(pressurized/turbocharged/air-conditioned) to get to
Muncie. Any takers?
Ping me offline to discuss.
Thx,
D
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Is it just me? Probably is... I hear I'm quite the
pain in the ass... but why do Americans feel compelled
to call their contests, or games, or races... the
World Championships? We have the World Series, where
we crown the winners the World Champion. We have the
Superbowl... once again crowning the
Sorry I brought it up guys... my issue isn't with the
contest itself... just the name... and I do understand
the reasoning behind it...
I applaud the efforts of Horizon and JR for putting
this on.
This contest has already received more hype than any
WC I've attended... sorry... but there's
Guys... we're barely getting over 150 open class
competitors at Visalia these days you really think
there will be significantly more than 150 guys trying
to go to... dare I say it Muncie? Or as Karen puts
it... MoonSay
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What is the minimum nose radius for an AMA glider? Is
it the same as FAI? Or is there one?
Need to start sharpening for the World Soaring
Masters...
TIA
D
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What a Blast! Nice people, great weather, some tough
air, and some great flying by the winners (not me
btw - I HATE it when that happens!) ;-)
Congrats to:
Dave Zucker - First Place Unlimited - Dave was on
fire! I don't think I could have beaten him even if I
was practiced. He had his model
With F3B being flown at the Nats, what are some of
the planes people
will be using this year?
Diablo (X-tail) - Own design... molds almost complete
- ping me offline for renderrings
Altus - Small little f...er - T-tail - Dieter Perlick
F3B model development has really taken a back seat to
F3J
John Diniz and RCSE team...
I had a couple of questions re: the Soaring Masters. I
haven't been able to find it through a google search.
So I'll bug you guys about it...
Was a date determined?
Is the landing score normalized with the flight time
as per F3J, or added after normalizing as per the
Some sections benefit from camber, and some don't. I
believe the 2/8 was probably designed to use at least
1 degree, maybe 2. Generically speaking, the thinner
sections are usually a bit more critical as to how
much camber one can use. Pop a thermal, set your
camber at 2 degrees and see how it
I just ordered a 1/3 scale all carbon, super stiff,
super heavy, OH MY GAWD gorgeous, DG800 best
display of a molded scale ship I've ever seen. The
same one Mike Smith got. It's not exactly, uh... free.
But it is gorgeous. And with 5K plus radio floating
(or in this case) haulin' ass around
These frames weigh
next to nothing and can be glued into the wing with
medium or black CA.
I think I'll just start taping a 1/2 ounce of lead to
every servo for absolutely no reason... ;-) I enjoyed
that thread of a few weeks ago where the engineer,
don't know his name, talked about getting all
BTW, aren't you the guy
that likes to fly around with ballast in most of time
so you can get
from Thermal to Thermal faster.
Well... uh yeah... that'd be me. But I'm quite
anal about where the weight in my model is placed. I
don't like weight in the extremities of any of my
models. Ever
Frames? I don't use them... they're heavy, they add
weight.
I can't remember the last time I had to change out a
servo.
2 cents
D
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I know you guys sent me this info... but ya sent it
way too early... I've lost it...
Where do i sign up?
Thx,
D
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- thx everybody! Got it!
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This really gets one thinking about the flap servos
and what one is/has
used
for flaps.
99.9% of you guys will never build the line tension
Mark is referring to.
But...this brings to light a thread from awhile back
regarding servos and being smart about your linkage
geometry... design your
Please ping me offline,
Thx,
D
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Out of the top ten, these are the ones I'm pretty sure
about. If you know... please finish up the list...
1 Perkins Daryl 2503 Insanity 3.7
2 Wurts Joe 2492 Supra
3 Newcomb Joseph 2473 ???
4 Nutter Dale2468 ???
5 Verzuh
1 Perkins Daryl 2503 Airtronics
2 Wurts Joe 2492 JR
3 Newcomb Joseph 2473 ???
4 Nutter Dale2468 ???
5 Verzuh Mike2467 ???
6 KornbergDave2467 ???
7 George Steve 2463
Ok... I've been watching a lot of the Olympics
lately... I think I'm gonna take up curling. Are there
like curling alleys? Do they serve beer there? Is
there a curling exchange somewhere where they talk
about the various rocks? Maybe the rocks have
different cambers, thicknesses and weights?
OK, ok... I know... I spouted off about the Supra...
but I had to see it for myself.
Is the Supra a good model? Yes. Is the Supra a great
model? Yes. Does it climb inverted while doing rolling
circles downwind in a 100 kt. micro-burst and make it
back to the LZ for the big points every time?
Second, I want to know how you did with landing for
bucks? ;-)
I cleaned up this weekend. Able to order the new Jag
now ;-)
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Hi Guys,
I spoke to Barry the other day... he said something
about having shipped over 60 Supras so far... so if 67
have been shipped... I'm assuming the best I'll be
able to pull off is 68th place... but I'll be there...
and I'll keep swingin'.. if I can knock just one
off... I'll be happy...
Now that you've all been flying your Supras... we
haven't really heard anything from you.
I'd love to hear more reports... please... if
negative... ping me off the exchange
Thx,
D
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Please keep in mind that I am not trying to solve
anything here. Just some random thoughts about how
contests seem to be evolving.
I don't think anybody is saying that a pic or
telemetry is an unfair advantage. Anything allowable
under the rules is certainly fair. What is evident in
this thread
You guys don't get the zen side of it. The telemetry
is neat stuff, and fun to use I'm sure on non-contest
days. But it has no place in a contest.
Use them to learn about your model. Use them to learn
about your skill level. Use them to learn about lift.
But leave them at home on contest days.
Do they still fly at the TOSS field in the valley on
the weekends? Will anyone be there with a winch on
Sat?
TIA,
D
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It would be like drinking de cafe coffee ... what
would be the point of
it
That's how I feel about those who choose to use varios
for TD contest flying What's the point? Fly the
freakin' airplane... ;-)
I'm kind of surprised that varios aren't being used in
UAV's to sustain or extend
I am lucky to get out and soar the old fashioned way
when I can.
The old fashioned way? With a picolario stuck in your
ear? I'm sorry... but i don't remember that from the
old days
funny thing is... the best I've ever seen Jim fly was
at this past Nats, F3J when nothing was stuck in
his
Looks like my full scale flying takes me to Santa
Barbara this weekend. I'd like to fly my Insanity
somewhere but I don't know of any TD clubs up that
way.
Anyone know of the nearest wench... uh... winch that
will be set up Sat and Sun?
TIA,
D
Hey guys,
I need some help with some CNC work. Contact me
offline please.
Thanks,
D
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This is rather far aft hook position which requires
special action during launch. On my Evo program the
left slider is an elevator (speed) trim with a small
gain.
For the launch throw I push the slider all the way
forward
which feeds in a slight amount of down-elevator.
Once the glider rotates
Guys,
No I don't have a Supra. I was addressing aggressive
launch set ups on any model. The tendencies Dr. Drela
mentions in his email are not specific to the Supra,
but are exhibited in every model I've every owned and
set up Daryl style. You guys just haven't been
listening for the last 15
OK...ok...I think I've got it. Mr. Diniz, are you
taking notes???
I would like to propose for the Horizon/ JR Unlimited
Masters of Soaring contest... so as to NOT exclude
anybody... we fly the following classes:
Unlimited
RES
RES and Flaps
RE and Flaps
2M
2M RES
2M RES and Flaps
2M RE and Flaps
Guys,
I've been running 5 cells for at least 10 years now.
Faster is better... more available torque is better. I
have never seen a servo that moves faster than my
thumb. If my servo is faster, I can move in (closer to
the servo) on the output arm (or longer horn at the
Control surface),
This is a wonderful thing. Thanks John/JR/Horizon!
I will gladly attend proudly wearing my blue shirt.
;-)
For those who have never soared Muncie... this will
not be your typical steer and stab. Soaring skills
will be required.
I especially like the requirement to be an LSF
member... ok.. no
Hey Marty,
My question is how do you guys in the know
think
the bagged supra Im putting together will stack up
against the molded
one
now available?
First off - Phil's bagged wings are second to none.
Best airfoil reproduction and LE shaping for a bagged
production wing I've ever seen. Now
Dave's work is second to none. He aided with the
buildout on the Visalia winning Insanity. I'm pretty
much of a pain in the ass when it comes to what I
want... but my models will go straight to Dave for
servo installs in the future.
Did I leave anything out Dave??? ;-)
D
Sorry for the bandwidth... But I am in possession of
Bill Wingstedt's yellow Sharon. Beautiful model...
flies great (actually it's in the rafters)... just
thought he might want it back someday.
Bill, prior to calling me a crook... let me know if
you are in a rush for this, or want me to hang
I'm game...
Finding towers will probably be our biggest challenge
however.
D
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Hi guys,
Looks like I'll be in So Cal this weekend at my old
stomping grounds. In other words, I'll be in the San
Dimas area. I had heard that the SWSA field had
closed. Is there anywhere else nearby to come and
shoot some landings? Any contests on Sunday?
TIA,
D
...OK... last year you pansies told me I didn't give
you enough notice to fly with me to Muncie to attend
the NATS. Well, with all this banter about the NATS
coverage... I thought I'd mention I'll be taking the
421 to Muncie this upcoming year. Right seat is
already spoken for... that leaves 4-5
OK guys, I've spent the last hour searching for some
small modelers size carbon I beams. I have seen them
somewhere in our little community. Any freakin'
ideas
Thanks,
D
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I'm sorry people. I didn't mean to stir up this much
[EMAIL PROTECTED] When it happened, I really didn't think much of
it. Just a flash of a toy airplane, damn that was
close...what the [EMAIL PROTECTED] is that doing there? and I
continued with my 25 degree bank base to final turn.
Ya seeI
Has anyone ever flown into Deer Valley? The base leg
is over or behind a small hill. This hill could be
perfect for slope soaring... if any idiot is dumb
enough to soar that close to an airport
OK... so I'm turning base to final in my 421. Had to
cut it a little short as there was another
Another great year at Visalia! Visalia is not really a
contest, it's an event.
Let me just get this out of the way - Sal sucks! He
had me pay his entry, and he didn't even show up... I
did at least take his t-shirt. My g/f will look good
in it... ;-)
Thanks to all the workers at this contest.
LOL!!!
Thanks for all your help guys. Plane still looks just
as good as the last time I saw it... or didn't see it.
Can somebody send back those quarters on the tail? I
lost my shorts on Sunday at Visalia to Beardsley's
kid. That little sh.t can land! But I think I'm still
a buck up on him for
Hey Guys,
I will be bringing to Visalia a very custom made Space
Pro 3.27 x-tail for sale. It is new in the box... but
without the box. Carbon skins, very stiff custom Daryl
layup, white on blue. Space Pros are great flying
models, fit and finish is amazing. This is the sister
ship to the one I
I may know who the owner is. Hang on to that bad
boy... and maybe he'll pick it up next year. Maybe
not Damn 2 meters never go away... ;-)
D
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Guys,
I'll be coming to Phoenix area this weekend to test
fly my newest Insanity, and prepare it for the big V.
Where do you guys fly now? Winches set up? Grass for
shootin' landings? Anyone want to come out and play?
Bring your singles... no not women... well... bring
them too. We can land for
Finishing up my 2nd Insanity 3.7. I had a goal of sub
80 ounces, but didn't really care... damn thing's too
light anyway. Gonna finish out at 81.5, about 2 ounces
lighter than my second one. The wings are 3.5 ounces
lighter than my first set... but this fuse is so not
gonna break... it's about 2
Hi Guys,
I was initially planning on taking the Lancair to
Visalia this year - but, looks like the C421 will be
available. See attached pic: OK - I unattached the pic
cuz it looked like it wasn't going through... if
you're interested ping me offline and I'll send ya a
pic and resent.
I am
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Let me know where and when guys. And thanks for
putting this together... I can use the money... ;-)
Mike, as you know - it's all about the buck... better
bring some to Visalia.
D
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...and Id like your recommendations for the best
micro servo for the job.
Ok... ok... ok OK. I can't resist. ;-) If
you want weaker... slower... heavier... larger... and
more expensive I'd use the JR 368. ;-)
Otherwise, the new Airtronics digital would be a good
choice...
I didn't mean to start a manufacturer's war. I just
found a neat new servo, and wanted to share that with
the group. It is true, I do not exactly pay retail for
radio... but it doesn't really matter, I do not
promote a product I don't believe in - period.
Now that being said, I'm not sure where
Guys,
I hesitate posting this, as it is a rather shameless
plug for my favorite radio company and one of their
new products but I think it's nice to finally have
another quality option for servos. JR has pretty much
owned the market for wing servos in the past few
years. I just rec'd this
Any body else getting very few posts these days,
starting to feel a bit
lonely:-).
I use a separate yahoo mail address for RCSE stuff
only. For some reason, yahoo started dumping all my
rcse mail into my bulk or spam folder in the last
week. You may want to check there.
D
What's that? Daryl sold his insanity?
Yup but I did break up with the therapist. Turns
out they're more nuts than the rest of us...
Look for new model coming soon...
D
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I don't see how anyone could feel anything but good
thoughts about Sara
and
her family, and their contributions to the Nats over
the years.
I totally agree. Oh, and btw... she's kinda ho...
and darn near 18 I'm told
I'm so sorry... I couldn't resist... ROTFLMAO
D
I'm doing an airfoil comparison on a set of molds I've
already had cut for F3B. Does anyone have the
coordinates for the M1738 that is on the Crossfire? I
haven't even seen the model, and I'm not interested in
ripping it. The thicknesses and cambers are very close
between the two wings... and I
Thanks John,
Both the Space Pro and the Insanity have been spoken
for. Should either deal fall through, I will post them
again.
Thanks for your time and bandwidth. I love the
internet... ;-)
D
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Space Pro still up for grabs.
Pics should be available in the next few minutes.
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D
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OK, it's been a rather expensive year. What with
losing 2 models, my new eyes (yes - I got glasses -
they work bitchin'!) and travelling to Muncie and
Denver Team Selects in my own planes... the 421 gets
rather pricey to fly. But it's s cool
Anyway, I'll be selling:
1 HKM Space Pro -
1) Tom Kiesling
2) Joe Wurts
3) Skip Miller
4-Alt.) Craig Greening
This is confirmed. I was there. Brutal conditions.
Nice job guys! Thanks to the hosting club. They did a
great job amidst tough conditions, wind changes,
thunderstorms, etc...
TK has been practicing... A LOT... and it shows.
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