Altitude limiting device is a Z-log, I believe, and with that 500 ft is 500 ft.
or whatever height has been selected and your time starts when the motor is
shut off by the device. You timer is still using a visual connection to start
the stopwatch just as it is with winch launching and when
3.7 Sharon Pro V-Tail fuse, new or used but not broken. Also if other parts are
available will consider.
Or a complete 3.7 Sharon Pro (V-Tail) with or without radio.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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We, the soaring community, have been punished altogether too much on this
subject. D, buy yourself a new Seiko from Barry and prove to Bozo that you can
survive without his old, worn out relic, and also save the rest of us from
further punishment.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Flew the Mini, wednsday, for the first time an it is an unqualified success.
The
air was perfect for testing a new bird, Low winds and high lift. Pun intended.
The Mini is powered by a hand wound (me) Komodo dual stator 28 mm outrunner
swinging a Graupner CFK carbon 15 x 9.5 folding prop, a
According to the plans in my NIB 4M Graupner Discus, the CG is 90 to 96 mm aft
of the LE at the fuse junction.
I would like to add that this NIB 4M Graupner Discus is available for sale or
trade.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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From: Mark Howard
We Have 19 EZG's called Beer Coolers here GDSHS. Use a carbon rod inside of the
f'/glass wing rod for stiffness. Better than a birch dowel. Cut off the orig
hook, mill or grind down the hook base to make it thinner and glue on a 1/8 ply
plate for a new hook base and locate the hook at 3.00
To close for comfort.
Regards, Dave.
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From: Richard Burnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ive road with guys with their eyes shut,,, is that ok? Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WDKK [EMAIL PROTECTED];
GOOD GUY REPORT !!!
Tuesday, 04/23/2008 after 2:30 pm I ordered 16 Elite 1450 mah 2/3A nimh
batteries from CheapBatteryPacks on line.
This was after a lengthy discussion about the pros and cons of the use of these
and other cells as RX packs for sailplanes. These guys are very informative and
Jim, I have been using the crystal clear tape for the under layer and the upper
or hold together layer, on everything, painted or moneycoated surfaces alike.
On painted surfaces it does not pull up paint. The covering on AVA's is
Oracover, which is sold here in the States as Hanger Nine Lite, I
Thanks to all of the response about FS1 requirements for a laptop application.
and thanks to John Diniz for the tech support from Horizon.
I have identified a laptop package that will run FS1 as it was designed to run.
Regards to all of you that helped.
Dave Corven.
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Questions, questions.
I have going through my rx packs with a West Mountain analyzer ( 1 C) and
charging with a Sirius Former (approx 24hrs @ 1C).
So far I have 4 Intelect ( IB ) cells, 1200 mah (2) and 1400 mah (2), 2/3 A
size, that have failed muster with 60% to 70% capacity with one 1400mah
Car pooling is a lot of fun as long as the driver doesn't snore.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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From: WDKK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Rich,
I car pooled once.. but every time I stopped for gas and opened the
door the water ran out :)
Now that right
Ian, you are correct about the typo. Most if not all battery mfr's rate their
batteries by discharging at the rated capacity as I was doing.
CheapBatterypacks think the 1450 mah Elite 2/3a's are a better choice right now
so I will try those, since thats all with decent capacity that fit's in
Way to go guys.
Getting LSF involved can only help.
Keep us informed on any progress on behalf of SASS.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Each member of the King County Council received a copy of the following:
With the possible purchase of a laptop looming in the future I am trying to
make sure that I get the right stuff.
FS1 reccomends 2.8 GHz intel pentium processor and I have looked at the Intel
Duo Processor 1.83 GHz/ 667Mhz.
Can someone tell me if the stuff I am looking is going to do the job
For Sale.
NIB JR DataSafe, PC Interface System. Version 1.07.
Complete with DataSafe Interface Hardware, 2 Installation Software Disks and
the instruction manual.
Compatable with PCM 10x, 10x II, 10 sx, 10 s and XP 8103 TX's.
For sale or trade. Make offer. Servos, 72 RX's, ESC's etc.or $.
Be
DP's Sacramento Cobra was sorta blue green and he did fix
it, sorta.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Hey, That looks like DP's Old F3B plane from the finals in Sacramento, 6
or so years back.
I thought he had it fixed
Yes Ray, Tom won with a beautiful, well constructed Sailplane. Too bad the
design is not a real enlarged replica of the Oly II as mine will be.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Does anyone know if Tom Scully and
Jay, I cut off the original hook and Dremeled the plastic base up into the fuse
for a new tow hook mount.
Then with my dremel cut open a slot 4.00 long X 3/4 wide and glued in, with 5
min epoxy, a 1/8 ply base for mounting an adjustable Airtronics tow hook.
Right now my hook is set at the C/G
I find this discussion somewhat strange. After all isn't the term line of
sight pretty self expanatory.
It doesn't make any difference whether you are flying 2.4 or 72 or 35, if your
bird goes behind a building, a dense tree line, a hill, etc. and you can't see
it then you probably can't fly
Well put Jim. Perfect wording from your lips.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Ben,
Very true, as does Barry Kennedy. Common knowledge to those that have been
around soaring for any length of time. But, there are people
Martin, this not about winning or whomping some other part of the country. Its
all about having fun, possibly making a new friend or two, an heavens forbid,
learn a little bit more about SMOM.
Here in the Detroit area the weather at the end of May could be very good or
very bad and guess what
The Greater Detroit Soaring And Hiking Society, GDSHS, is going to sponser an
Eazy Glider Postal fun contest on the weekend of May 24th / 25th, 2008.
The Easy Glider is a molded foam glider produced By Multiplex and available
through almost any hobby shop or hobby mail order company. It is a
Jack, check with Jack Iafret as I think he has been keeping up to date with
Profi 4K (2.4) things.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Does anyone know if there is any plans for 2.4 and the MPX 4000,
commonly
Gordy, also take a look at Terry Nitches (spelling ?) ducted fan stuff. Really
advanced designs, and fast too.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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I didn't see what particular electric jets you saw Gordy, but the pusher
What was the line you used, what was the drum sizing and the motor condition,
age and tuning set up. Just curious and would like to compare it to my set up.
Thanks and regards, Dave Corven.
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I tried lighter
Back a few years ago while I was cutting cores I found that paperless phenolic
was the best template material that I could lay my hand on. The paper phenolic
always left a very small amount of paper residue that no amount of sanding or
polishing would completely get rid of. The result was an
Jim, the question Paul asked about dacron line. I would say no, as it has no
stretch as compared to nylon and braided vs twisted, braided is also more
durable therefore prefered.
Comments ?
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Brian, you are right on the spot. KISS is always a better path. Why do we keep
circling KISS while looking for the ultimate fix ?
Regards, Dave Corven.
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I just do the KISS(Keep It Simple, S7up1d) thing,
Joe, if we knew how much $ AMA does supply to support our W/C teams we would
probably say wow, that much.
That info is probably available from many sources, including the team managers
and members. Anybody wish to make that info available ?
Meanwhile, Joe, I think your suggestion of a $5.00
When is a tax not a tax. When it is a donation, of course, maybe pushed with a
small amount of gentle persuasion.
To me this would not be a tax but a priviledge to support our F3J soaring team.
And you ?
Regards, dave Corven.
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Tree / Trophy story that happened back around 1976 (best guess) and I was
having a very unusual year with trees. Landing in a very tall tree at Lansing,
MI. straining an Aquila through a tree at Chicago at speed. The flying surfaces
stayed in the tree and the fuse came out alone. There were
Can anyone out there help me with the channel 5/6 function. Currently it
appears to be operating on ch 5 and I would like to use it with a ch 6 setup so
I can fly a 2 aileron bird without using a y-harness.
TX used is a JR 9303.
Castle Creations indicates several days before they can reply as
Are we flying tomorrow ?
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Already the silly season of winter has swung into high gear.
Suggesting a line strength and turnaround distance as required info for AMA
contest sanctions so we can choose whether to go or not go to specific contests.
Also smell a possible black helicoptor conspericy with the trend towards
Well said James. Ditto's.
Regards and a Happy New Year.
Dave Corven.
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Here are a few wishes for the RCSE community for 2008:
* For Woodcrafters Soaring Masters - beautiful days with moderate winds.
* For the NATS
Personally, I like the original Supra tip configuration as it allows me a quick
last minute check on my trailing edge, T/E, setting before launch as well as
other setup or any other T/E adjusting procedures.
I checked my Supra wing panels, #'s 16, all glass, 81, carbon and 166, carbon
and
Denny, I'm sure I've spelled your name wrong, but could you please contact me
by e-mail or call me @ 248-515-2153 cell at your earliest convenience ?
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Jeff, I had a FLS wade built motor powered winch with a wide drum that I used
with mono for F3B and with braided 200 lb test line for TD. this winch had a
1/2 inch dia threaded stainless steel rod as a resistor to make it F3B legal
and it was never disconnected.
1) You can't hurt the S/S rod
Actually I haven't proposed that we use specific F3B winches for TD, but to use
the F3B resistance spec. as base line to better control and equalize the FLS
powered winches for our US TD comps and allow the lower lb test line usage.
A side effect is that this would allow a FLS powered winch to
I think Dennis Phelan, of Mike Lachowski Land, deserves the credit for the S/S
threaded resistor rod rod for use with the FLS Motors.
At least I got my first one from Dennis when he graduated to a F3B specific
winch.
So blame Dennis, not me.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Long, but read it anyway.
Tension limiter discussions come and go and even the simplest concepts not only
add a substantial cost to each winch an more potential failure points which
could put a winch in a contest situation down for the day, where a broken line
can usually repaired within a few
The line will ultimately be drawn by the competitors and where ever that may
be, we don't yet know.
Big, to a point, for my old eyes and still light enough to not destroy the
winch lines is a balance I work on with unlimited ships like my Supra or AVA.
So far line strengths above 250 lbs. are
Gordy, are you aware that Memphis Twine supplies line to Marks new source ?
Ho Ho Ho and have a Merry Cristmas and a Happy New Year.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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IN the good ole days (and California contests) we used to
I think the line, pun intended, has been drawn and the lower power winch may be
the direction to go.
After having had FLS and Bosch powered winches, resistor equiped, in recent
years that used both Memphis Twine braided line on them, I have to agree with
DP, RB and MS that lower powered
For JD, the hobby is his job, so he is authorized to this stuff on company
time.
And I am envious, aren't you ?
Nothing is perfect but this new schedule is better than the past few years
schedules and improvement is always important.
At least for those of us who are still fortunate or
Easy there girls.
This whole thread is based on opinions, ideas, individule experiences etc, etc.
Although this current thread has become rather cumbersome due to it's length,
it has sometimes been entertaining as well as informative. It has brought back
some memories that go back, for me, to
Another good guy to deal with is Smokin Joe.
I just received the Airtronics 92778 rx that he advertised on rcse as nib.
It got here unscathed and as advertised, perfect condition. Way to go Joe.
And as for benchmarks how about the Super Cirrus and Nimbus Pro from Bob Belger
and Ray Vanderdonk
Why would the co ax be a problem, unless you used it to hang up the TX ?
Regards, Dave Corven.
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From: Mike Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9303 2.4 vs module will get you model match. E.g. The model
configuration will be matched to the RX.
Call Kennedy Composites and get a Supra.
Regards, Dave Corven
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From: michael morjoseph [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am looking for a good T.D. Ship for Next Season Open Class Ship
must be a good TD Ship that can range out and land on a dime
If you
Cal, my 3 cents, taking inflation in consideration.
Any discussion on the health of R/C soaring should be welcome anywhere at any
time.
R/C soaring certainly has a lot of competition from other sources of
entertainment and as Richard Burnoski just mentioned the cost of traveling away
to a
Try a Super Ava, great for Res and Unlimited TD and very visable, read large
and less $ than an all up TD ship by around 1/2.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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I helped a guy do the final setup of a Shadow Thursday before
Got my Super Ava today and it was shipped in typical Kennedy Composites
shipping style. Enclosed in a snowboard case and it arrived in perfect
condition.
Thank you Karen and Barry.
First task for the Super Ava is to help me finish LSF Level five. I only have
to do the cross country and the 2
Congratulations to the Pumpkin Fly Team for weathering out Saturdays lousy
weather (pun intended) and running 6 rounds on Sunday in less than perfect
weather.
This was my first contest outside of our club contests in well over a year and
the Cinci team made it all the better.
Thanks also to
Soaring sat was actually a washout. After dinner Jack and I are flying electric
choppers in the motel room.
More fun than a sack full of wrestling bobcats.
Regards, Thinner D @ S.F.I.G
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Steve, what kind of weather conditions are forecast at Cinci this weekend ?
Regards, Dave Corven.
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From: Steve Siebenaler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All,
Just a reminder that it's not winter yet.. Come to Cincinnati this weekend
(Saturday
I did my 8 hr slope in the Grand Bend area north east from Sarnia, Canada. I
was facing northwest into Lake Huron. Also in northwestern corner of the lower
penninsula of Michigan are two great sites at Frankfort and the Sleeping bear
Dunes, both facing west into Lake Michigan.
Regards, Dave
It has been a week and I just wondered if I missed the results.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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The Stylus TX has been sold. Thanks Ken.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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STILL AVAILABLE !!!
STYLUS TX and accessories.
Pristene condition with glider and memory cards, one module on Ch 28 and
charger and at no extra charge, a George Steiner synthesized tx module.
All manuals and all original cartons are are included.
$ 450.00, shipping conus included.
I have an original paper manual you are welcome to. let me know.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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OK, OK, I know its older technology but Im trying to make-due with what I
have as I dont fly as often as Id like.
STLUS TX and accessories.
Pristene condition with glider and memory cards, one module on Ch 28 and
charger and a Geo Steiner synthesized tx module.
All manuals and all original cartons are are included.
$ 475.00 plus shipping.
Please contact by e-mail or call at 248-515-2153.
3 year old, max of 50 flights, mostly handlaunch.
Pristene condition with glider and memory cards, two modules, 22 28, charger,
all manuals and all original cartons. Also available a Geo Steiner synthesized
tx module.
$ 475.00 plus shipping.
Please contact by e-mail or call at 248-515-2153.
OOPS, Really Big OOPS. Stylus TX. I'd like to say I was just checking to see if
everyone was awake but I slipped up.
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3 year old, max of 50 flights, mostly handlaunch.
Pristene condition with glider and memory
Does anyone have Waynes e-mail address ?
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Ben, your reports are the next best thing to being there. I can't but I will be
next year. Thanks from your audience for your efforts.
Regards, Dave Corven, homebound but not much longer.
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From: Ben Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you thought
I have been following this thread with some interest and would to contribute my
two undervalued cents.
First, SIZE does count.
Second, a number of years ago, Don Patterson and I were flying our Jerry
Mirlk's designed AstroJeff's on a perfect day for high altitude flying. High
clouds and some
Harry, it appears that if you make two spoilers, center area fixed, the you can
use full spoiler travel without blocking the elevator and the spoilers may also
act like an airbrake for even slower landing approaches. Ask Iafret how his
works.
Dave Corven.
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Hey Don and Pat, my #16 Supra (standard construction) would not accept the
94761(12 mm) servos for the ailerons as they are too thick and protude below
the outside of the skin at the rear of of the servo opening. I used Volz Wing
Max (10 mm) for the ailerons. I have again looked at using the
It's my turn. Our entire team, Juniors, Seniors and the support group have done
the US soaring community proud. It's clear they never gave up.
Congrats to our group!!!
Regards. Dave Corven.
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I have two matching BS F3B winches for sale with six drums and at least 12 to
15 spools of mono. Turn arounds included. Very good conditon.
Call or e-mail for details.
Dave Corven, 586-781-2865, home, 248-515-2153.
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Looking for a LH outer panel for an AVA. Red is prefered, any color ok.
Contact Dave Corven, E-mail or call 586-781-2865 hm or 248-515-2153 cell.
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I am resending this message with Phil's correct e-mail address and a few other
changes.
To F3B Team Selection entrants and possible new entrants,
Please send your names and primary frequency choice with two backups to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as Phil has graciously offered to construct the flight
To F3B Team Selection entrants and possible new entrants,
Please send your names and primary frequency choice to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as Phil has graciously offered to construct the flight
matrix for team select this coming aug 23rd through the 27th.
I suggest that you should have your
These were to be my F3B planes this summer but due to unforseen circumstanses,
F3B and me are not going to cross paths this cycle.
1) Graphite 2, all molded, white tops, lavender bottoms. approx 15 flights.
Pristeen condition. Ready to fly. JR pcm rx, JR digital servos. put in
your
Marc,
Please call me at home 586-781-2865 or cell 248-515-2153 tomorrow if you have a
few minutes.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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To all interested F3B pilots and of course other interested R/C pilots.
AMA has finally approved the August 23rd thru the 27th for F3B Team Select to
be flown at AMA Headquarters, Muncie, IN.
Within a few days AMA will publish entry requirements to all who have
participated in the last two
Barry and Karen Kennedy with a two day turn around on parts for my 2nd Supra,
#81.
Guess I'll have to get cranking on #81 cause I got both my Nats and Masters
confirmations all in one day.
And just in case any of the Supra builders are interested, open up the opening
on the top of the pylon
Dave,
For someone who claims to be able to fly F3B without team help, I'm sure you
should be able to solve this minor irritation without outside help as well.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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hi,
what are you guys doing with
Gordy, that confirmation looks like it came from the same source that the #1
Canopy Supra came from. Hey ?
The dim you asked for is 8.24, canopy split line to back side of tow hook.
Regards, Dave.
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This is to
To all interested parties:
I am planning this years F3B Team Selection Event for Aug 23rd through Aug
27th, 2006. Please understand that these dates are tentative as final approval
of the sanction application is not complete but should be finalized on or
before the end of May.
If every thing
If you were to exchange Res with Two Meter on the schedule, Two Meter entries
would drop off faster than you could bat your big baby blues.
Unfortunately it would be the death of Two Meter at the Soaring Nats.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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From:
Don't ask me, ask the people at the planning meeting in the fall. I do know
that historically the majority of F3B entrants send their entries right at the
end of the registration window. Also because F3B is an FAI event, AMA will
always try to include it and F3J at the Soaring Nats.
Regards,
Gordy, I believe postmark time is not the bottom line, when it gets to McCarthy
is the bottomn line. Check me out on this.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Anyone beat my postmark time?
Gordy
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Anyone
Gordy, any truth to the rumor that you have sold your Pikes so you can sponser
Jo's trip, housing and all his required liquid refreshment ?
If true, does that mean you will fly your new Super Ava ? I suppose that could
also mean no sun in Muncie that weekend.
Comments Gordy.
Regards, Dave
Can someone provide the channel order for the 92785 Airtronics RX. I am setting
this RX to be driven by a JR 9303 in a Hanger 9 P-51 electric conversion.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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Ben and all the rest of you that answered my question, this has been an
interesting puzzle.
My trial and error tests have resulted with the followng:
Ch 1 nothing
CH 2 Rt Aileron
Ch 3 Elevator
Ch 4 Throttle
CH 5 nothing
Ch 6 Lt Aileron
Ch 7 Rudder
Ch 8 nothing
Since I don't have flaps on this
Byron, will you ping me off line.
TIA, Dave Corven.
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Well gang, finally after a long winter here in Michigan The Supra #16 flew
today and fly it did.
At 65 oz it launches as if it were on rails, zooms without hesitation,
excellent speed range and lands where you want it to land with out complaint.
The air today was gusty and bumpy but #16 flew
You have got to be kidding. If I can't count on my own post office to get my
letter post marked when I send it on 5-1-2006 then we'd better find another way
to deal with this or not do it at all.
Regards, I hope, Dave Corven.
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From: S Meyer
My initial impression was that the first come, first served was decided by the
earliest postmarks but now upon reading the fine print on the entry form, it is
clear that the first to arrive at Mr. McCarthy's door is the winner, so to
speak.
My, my, Steve is going to be a busy fella come
Cliff, there was a lot of discussion recently on the exchange about this new
digital incidence meter but I did not keep a record of the source. I'll bet
when this note hits the exchange there will be a reply for you to work with.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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I am looking for some one to share a motel room at Toledo this weekend.
Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights. Off site so as to keep costs in line.
Contact this evening or tomorrow am off line or 248-515-2153 cell.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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MAJOR PRICE REDUCTION !!! Plans have Changed.
Price reduced to $450.00.
See me at Kennedy Composites booth or call my cell, 248-515-2153.
Original 144 w/s Legionair for sale. Flown only at the 2004 Soaring Nats.
New
Hitec 555 RX, JR 3321 on rudder and elevator, GWS micro's on spoilers.
The room for Toledo has been solved. I'll see you'all there tomorrow afternoon.
Regards, Dave Corven.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] The Toledo Show
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:55:25 +
I am looking for some one
The 2 JR R600's and the Hitecc 555 are also sold pending reciept of funds.
The Super Slim is sold pending reciept of funds.
I have several RX's that I am not using so maybe some one can make use of them.
1) JR R600, 2 available, $38.00 ea or $68.00 for both. No crystals available.
2) Hitec
To all Sailplane and Electric Sailplane Mavens:
Barry and Karen are on the road from Texas to Toledo as you read this and will
be returning to Texas on the wednsday after this weekend to take care of the
customers waiting for them to return home.
Plan on stopping at the Kennedy Composites
OOOPPS !!
I forgot to mention the SUPRA's will also be on display at the Kennedy
Composites booth.
Shame on me for forgetting the SUPRA.
Regards, Dave Corven
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Original 144 w/s Legionair for sale. Flown only at the 2004 Soaring Nats. New
Hitec 555 RX, JR 3321 on rudder and elevator, GWS micro's on spoilers.
White on top, red on bottom and transprent yellow open areas and tail feathers.
No crashes, great shape and can be seen and picked up at the
The Super Slim is sold pending reciept of funds.
I have several RX's that I am not using so maybe some one can make use of them.
1) JR R600, 2 available, $38.00 ea or $68.00 for both. No crystals available.
2) Hitec Superslim, $45.00
3) Hitec Micro 555, $35.00
4) Airtronics 92765 6/7 ch (old
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