Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-21 Thread Buzz Averill
Finally, the truth and the best approach Buzz Averill On Dec 20, 2007, at 11:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So guys, here is my take on the line break issue. It is very much like the F3B style...of course. The system that is breaking the lines is the motor power and line strength

[RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread mike
So guys, here is my take on the line break issue. It is very much like the F3B style...of course. The system that is breaking the lines is the motor power and line strength combination. If you attached the line to a brick wall and hit the switch the motors we use today will break all but

Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread Kurt Zimmerman
... and as for that complaint department... make sure you stock up on plenty of bananas to feed them... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So guys, here is my take on the line break issue. It is very much like the F3B style...of course. The system that is breaking the lines is the motor power and

RE: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread Lex Mierop
Mike Smith wrote: There you go. THE PERFECT SOLUTION. But how does this help you? Don't you need a SHARON solution? -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe

RE: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread mike
HE he, I get it. Embarrased to say that it took me a while though. Happy Holidays to all you nutty glider guiders out there. Tip a few egg nogs, enjoy a nice cigar, and look forward to the '08 season. Cheers all. Mike There you go. THE PERFECT SOLUTION.But how does this help you? Don't you

Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread Martin Usher
Maybe a weak link in the line or auto release like you have with full sized sailplanes is the answer -- they harder they try, the lower they launch. Its only a minority who feel they have to really stress out the launch kit. People who fly Sharons, for example (they know who they are,

Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread Rick Bothell
Thanks you Mike for suggesting a resistor. I just finished making 6 resistors for the CASL Phoenix contest in February for the sole purpose of making less powerful Ford Long Shaft winches. The winches will be less powerful than last years winches because of the many line breaks last year. The line

RE: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread mike
heh, heh, perfect Rick. That really is the only solution. People can't be counted on to go easy on the equipment no matter how much pleading is done. Don't forget to do the cardboard cut out of the CD for the complaints. This is essential. The other notable benefit is that we will all know where

Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread S Meyer
Good discussions and comments. Glad to see you stepping up Rick and testing the waters. I for one think that the line is getting too heavy because the winches are just too powerful. So who's going to draft and propose the rules change? Should the wording and strength be same as F3B

Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread Marc Gellart
Hey Tony E., you are wrong about the largest ship to win the Nats. It was DP with his Insanity, 3.7M. And for the record, the line used at the Nats is 290# line from MT. Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread mike
Hey Marc, The funny thing about that is that the Sharon is a 3.7meter ship, and it won in '04. hm!!! That beats the Insanity. Of course if you used wing area as a criteria, then Insanity would reign since it is truly Carbon Overcast when it is flying... ;-) Happy Holidays. Mike

Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread Mike Lachowski
You should investigate options on the field coils. The FLS can be built as a 6V, 12V, or 24V. You definitely do not want the 6V variety But that is just what most people try to get to be more powerful. Beware of resistors. Lots of heat. Remember, with the resistor, folks are just

Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread Mike Lachowski
Also, if you have real balls, you can adjust the timing to make the winch weaker. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME

Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management - was, Icon 2

2007-12-20 Thread Lincoln Ross
It's not a big thrill to me, but I think most flyers really enjoy the big zooms. I got a 12V wind motor because I didn't know any better. It launches gliders fine, even big ones(134 and 85 oz.), but it doesn't power the big zoom. Academic for me now because somehow I lost track of it in the