I think everyone has made good points... I like the idea of extra points for 
time on tow... I know it would be a lot harder to keep my Sharon on tow for the 
same time as my AvA...

 I'm just bored with TD I guess...  Anyone want a Sharon?

PS... This last weekend we should of had one of the best 2 day Contest in 
NorCal. The Gamblers Gala, hosted by the Sierra Silent Soarers and CD'd by none 
other than the Great Lee Cox... Unfortunately it was canceled... I think I 
speak for a lot of pilots when I say I'm sorry that it was not held and hope it 
comes back next year...  :-)




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Craig,

What is with messing around with winch time????  All minimizing winch
time does is make planes go up faster, and have them built like
composite bullets.  

Why not do something simple, like take the weight of the plane, mulitply
it by seconds and get a max time you have to fly??

We once talked about this , way back, when people used to fly scale, or
really stand off scale in the LSF tounaments and SSOAR NAT (that dates
me!)  Pilots often chose unique projects that could not compete with the
"slicker" ships.  A Schul Glider had a L/D of 15: or so.  If you took
the L/D and multiply it by say 10 seconds, that meant that your max time
had to be 150 seconds (2.5 minutes), which was reasonable for draggy,
early gliders.  If you had a Kestral, with an L/D of 36:1, that meant
360 seconds, or 6 minutes.  That was reasonable for a slick glider. 
That kept scale gliders of all vintages competitive.

So...let me ask this:

What happens if the launch is a discus launch of a 100" glider????  NO
TOW TIME!!!!

Think about it.  If you know you can hand launch into a thermal, why
loose 4-5 seconds every time????  Hello JW!!

Personally, any time you try to do this stuff, it always ends up with a
conclusion no one wants to fly!

Chris






> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, July 15, 2008 6:03 am
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com
> In a message dated 07/14/2008 8:21:54 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> After watching the World F3J  I had an idea for a contest...
> Incorporate the time penalty on tow that they have in F3J but in a TD format.
> You would have a timer at each winch who would time your launch and write 
> that time down on your card...  For example if it were a 10 min task and you 
> towed for 6 sec the best time you could get would be a 9:54 even though you 
> flew a 
> perfect 10... Or even better... Double the time on tow penalty, so if it was 
> a 6 sec tow the best time you could get would be 9:48. Seems to me it would 
> throw more strategy and fun into a normal TD contest
> Suggestions ? Comments?
> Craig
> ________________________________________________
>  
> Having read the other replies, I think the solution would be to have a device 
> that timed the length of time the winch motor was on for the launch and 
> deduct that from the score. That would allow a woody to tap up to the top and 
> take 
> their time doing so without incurring the "time on tow" penalty. The penalty 
> would then be for "time using power on tow."
>  
> Bill Wingstedt
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