Re: ***SPAMTAGPTD: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management

2007-12-21 Thread Jeff Steifel
Actually Ed, If you get a line break you fly it at LISF. As for new line we don't normally put on fresh line anymore. We discovered that new line had more breaks than older line, unless it was really rashed up. A lot of the Memphis Twine has bad spots in it. We started noticing once the bad

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2007-12-21 Thread Buzz Averill
Finally, the truth and the best approach Buzz Averill On Dec 20, 2007, at 11:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So guys, here is my take on the line break issue. It is very much like the F3B style...of course. The system that is breaking the lines is the motor power and line strength

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2007-12-20 Thread mike
So guys, here is my take on the line break issue. It is very much like the F3B style...of course. The system that is breaking the lines is the motor power and line strength combination. If you attached the line to a brick wall and hit the switch the motors we use today will break all but

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2007-12-20 Thread Kurt Zimmerman
... and as for that complaint department... make sure you stock up on plenty of bananas to feed them... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So guys, here is my take on the line break issue. It is very much like the F3B style...of course. The system that is breaking the lines is the motor power and

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2007-12-20 Thread Lex Mierop
Mike Smith wrote: There you go. THE PERFECT SOLUTION. But how does this help you? Don't you need a SHARON solution? -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe

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2007-12-20 Thread mike
HE he, I get it. Embarrased to say that it took me a while though. Happy Holidays to all you nutty glider guiders out there. Tip a few egg nogs, enjoy a nice cigar, and look forward to the '08 season. Cheers all. Mike There you go. THE PERFECT SOLUTION.But how does this help you? Don't you

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2007-12-20 Thread Martin Usher
Maybe a weak link in the line or auto release like you have with full sized sailplanes is the answer -- they harder they try, the lower they launch. Its only a minority who feel they have to really stress out the launch kit. People who fly Sharons, for example (they know who they are,

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2007-12-20 Thread Rick Bothell
Thanks you Mike for suggesting a resistor. I just finished making 6 resistors for the CASL Phoenix contest in February for the sole purpose of making less powerful Ford Long Shaft winches. The winches will be less powerful than last years winches because of the many line breaks last year. The line

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2007-12-20 Thread mike
Gordy will be. ;-) Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management- was Icon 2From: Rick Bothell [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 4:02 pmTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: soaring@airage.comThanks you Mike for suggesting a resistor. I

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2007-12-20 Thread S Meyer
Good discussions and comments. Glad to see you stepping up Rick and testing the waters. I for one think that the line is getting too heavy because the winches are just too powerful. So who's going to draft and propose the rules change? Should the wording and strength be same as F3B

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2007-12-20 Thread Marc Gellart
Hey Tony E., you are wrong about the largest ship to win the Nats. It was DP with his Insanity, 3.7M. And for the record, the line used at the Nats is 290# line from MT. Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2007-12-20 Thread mike
Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management- was Icon 2From: Marc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 4:19 pmTo: Soaring Exchange soaring@airage.comHey Tony E., you are wrong about the largest ship to win the Nats. It was DP with his

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2007-12-20 Thread Mike Lachowski
You should investigate options on the field coils. The FLS can be built as a 6V, 12V, or 24V. You definitely do not want the 6V variety But that is just what most people try to get to be more powerful. Beware of resistors. Lots of heat. Remember, with the resistor, folks are just

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2007-12-20 Thread Mike Lachowski
Also, if you have real balls, you can adjust the timing to make the winch weaker. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME

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2007-12-20 Thread Lincoln Ross
It's not a big thrill to me, but I think most flyers really enjoy the big zooms. I got a 12V wind motor because I didn't know any better. It launches gliders fine, even big ones(134 and 85 oz.), but it doesn't power the big zoom. Academic for me now because somehow I lost track of it in the

[RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management

2007-12-20 Thread Ed Anderson
Gordy is right. I made a poor word selection. No one FORCES anyone to do anything. My intention was to say that, in order to remain competitive, you will likely find it necessary to go to stronger, more expensive planes. This makes it harder for sport flyers who do not have big budgtes to