Re: [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
I realize that this is not merely a whishlist, but I would like to see added to the SoaS all other packages that are also present in the OLPC 12.1 build. I noticed just recently (because i haven't been using my XO for a while) that the standard OLPC build has the gnome (and desktop switcher) and several applications for it installed allong with the Sugar envirment. It basically adds more packages, and I understand that it makes it harder to maintain, but it seems to me that it would be good to have the same enviroment for the SoaS as for the OLPC desktop. This was probably discussed before, but i would think that providing the same enviroment could help spread Sugar to a regular more wider audience of i686 (or x86_64) bit desktop or notebook/netbook owners. Cheers 2013/3/22 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- Rodolfo D. Arce S. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~rolf ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Rodolfo D. Arce S. r...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I realize that this is not merely a whishlist, but I would like to see added to the SoaS all other packages that are also present in the OLPC 12.1 build. I noticed just recently (because i haven't been using my XO for a while) that the standard OLPC build has the gnome (and desktop switcher) and several applications for it installed allong with the Sugar envirment. I'm working as I get the time, along with Kalpa, to get the Sugar Activities to the same list as OLPC ships. The biggest missing ones at the moment is the Tam Tam suite. We're not going to ever ship the gnome desktop as part of the SoaS spin, but there's nothing to stop people installing it side by side with SoaS if you install it to hard disk. It basically adds more packages, and I understand that it makes it harder to maintain, but it seems to me that it would be good to have the same enviroment for the SoaS as for the OLPC desktop. From the sugar side of things we are basically the same. The distro is based on the same package set and being derived from Fedora there's nothing to stop you from installing gnome if it's what you want to do, we don't have the resources to provide the support for it out of the box. This was probably discussed before, but i would think that providing the same enviroment could help spread Sugar to a regular more wider audience of i686 (or x86_64) bit desktop or notebook/netbook owners. From the sugar side of things we are basically providing the same environment. There's a few minor differences but not much. If there's a particular sugar feature you feel is missing please let me know. GNOME is not a missing feature... it's intended. Peter Cheers 2013/3/22 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- Rodolfo D. Arce S. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~rolf ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
Hi Rodolfo and all... Long ago, in a very early version of SoaS, I seem to recall that Tam Tam was included. However, it did not work well as each operating system had its own way of making sounds on ttam he computer. I remember it being very poor quality on the Mac. If they could overcome this problem, it would be wonderful to include Tam Tam. I hope that will someday be possible. Caryl Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:33:56 + From: pbrobin...@gmail.com To: soas@lists.sugarlabs.org CC: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9 On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Rodolfo D. Arce S. r...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I realize that this is not merely a whishlist, but I would like to see added to the SoaS all other packages that are also present in the OLPC 12.1 build. I noticed just recently (because i haven't been using my XO for a while) that the standard OLPC build has the gnome (and desktop switcher) and several applications for it installed allong with the Sugar envirment. I'm working as I get the time, along with Kalpa, to get the Sugar Activities to the same list as OLPC ships. The biggest missing ones at the moment is the Tam Tam suite. We're not going to ever ship the gnome desktop as part of the SoaS spin, but there's nothing to stop people installing it side by side with SoaS if you install it to hard disk. It basically adds more packages, and I understand that it makes it harder to maintain, but it seems to me that it would be good to have the same enviroment for the SoaS as for the OLPC desktop. From the sugar side of things we are basically the same. The distro is based on the same package set and being derived from Fedora there's nothing to stop you from installing gnome if it's what you want to do, we don't have the resources to provide the support for it out of the box. This was probably discussed before, but i would think that providing the same enviroment could help spread Sugar to a regular more wider audience of i686 (or x86_64) bit desktop or notebook/netbook owners. From the sugar side of things we are basically providing the same environment. There's a few minor differences but not much. If there's a particular sugar feature you feel is missing please let me know. GNOME is not a missing feature... it's intended. Peter Cheers 2013/3/22 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- Rodolfo D. Arce S. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~rolf ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ Regards, Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rodolfo D. Arce S. r...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hello: V9 will be based on fedora 19? I'm downloading the latest (which i think would be for fedora 18) Yes, it will be based on Fedora 19. I'll be testing both during the weekend. Something in particular that you would like for me to tes or just Activities (that sounded like it was easy and fast, but i know it is not :-) For the development, Activities, the use case you would want to use SoaS in, pretty much everything. Peter cheers 2013/3/22 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ Regards, Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- Rodolfo D. Arce S. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~rolf ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
Would you consider selling me one usb stick that boots with the new load? I have tried a number of times to create one and I alwayx get a numer of erros using, tablets, notebooks, netbooks, and desktop. I struck out! And gave up. I would be willing to pay whatever to obtain one! I saw a utility on Fedora to clone usb's. Thanks Eddie Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Rodolfo D. Arce S. r...@sugarlabs.org To: Development of live Sugar distributions soas@lists.sugarlabs.org Cc: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 13:10:31 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9 Hello: V9 will be based on fedora 19? I'm downloading the latest (which i think would be for fedora 18) I'll be testing both during the weekend. Something in particular that you would like for me to tes or just Activities (that sounded like it was easy and fast, but i know it is not :-) cheers 2013/3/22 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ Regards, Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- Rodolfo D. Arce S. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~rolf ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
