Re: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog

2010-01-30 Thread Alan
- Original Message - From: Gian Subject: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog I know it may sounds or looks strange, but I have been assembling ugly style circuits using all or most SMD components, active and passive. A simple circuit of a 2xJ310 (MMBFJ310

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2010-01-30 Thread g8voip
- From: Gian Subject: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog I know it may sounds or looks strange, but I have been assembling ugly style circuits using all or most SMD components, active and passive. A simple circuit of a 2xJ310 (MMBFJ310) is shown in a picture I

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2010-01-29 Thread hank smith
- Original Message - From: netnovel2005 ja7...@zao.jp To: soft_radio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:18 PM Subject: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Hello, I answered to Mr. hank by personal mail

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2010-01-29 Thread hank smith
To: soft_radio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:25 AM Subject: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Bob, I certainly don't want to scare anyone away from trying SMT assembly at home, and my remarks have nothing to do with the fact that I'm offering assembled

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2010-01-28 Thread Peter
I definitely agree with Larry about the SMT soldering techniques. SMT assembly is not bad IF you use the right tools and techniques. I will be posting some more info on that on my blog, probably tomorrow, but one of the things you should NEVER do (in my opinion, that is) is use wire solder

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2010-01-28 Thread g8voip
Hi Pete, Sorry, but the statement about 'NEVER' hand soldering SMD components is simply scaremongering! SMD components can easily be soldered by hand, and that is a far more reliable method for home construction than any of reflow or other crazy methods often attempted by amateurs. Those

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2010-01-28 Thread Dave Wade
... Dave G4UGM -Original Message- From: soft_radio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:soft_ra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave - WB6DHW Sent: 28 January 2010 22:19 To: soft_radio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Peter

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2010-01-28 Thread ward
be put of if you don't have one... Dave G4UGM -Original Message- From: soft_radio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:soft_ra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave - WB6DHW Sent: 28 January 2010 22:19 To: soft_radio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage

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2010-01-28 Thread Peter
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Peter: The procedure is to solder the ssop pins and not worry about shorts. Then use solder wick to remove the shorts. Easier than it sounds. Many have done this with IC's with .020 pitch

Re: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog = Generic thread used for all discussions on the list for a few weeks

2010-01-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Maybe we should just re-name this thread the generic thread we used for a few weeks for just about everything It did indeed get me to order the LD-1 though. Bob

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2010-01-27 Thread hank smith
Hank - Original Message - From: larryw8er robi...@roadrunner.com To: soft_radio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:12 PM Subject: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Peter ... The Soft66AD is assembled and shipped at $122. The problems

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2010-01-27 Thread Dave - WB6DHW
, 2010 9:12 PM Subject: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Peter ... The Soft66AD is assembled and shipped at $122. The problems are with support and documentation and drivers/software. My experience is that emails are often not answered and telephone contact

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2010-01-27 Thread hank smith
, 2010 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Hank: I only had a chance to take a quick look at the schematic. It appears that there is a thru position in the bandpass circuit that selects bandpass filter. You should be able to use that below 2.1 MHz

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2010-01-25 Thread Rotten Robbie
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:13 PM Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Hi A full wave rectifier can also be used as a simple broad band doubler. The problem with the output of the DDS is that without filtering it is far from

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2010-01-25 Thread ni9n
Hank, the price goes up to $200 in about a week and a half. I think it's worth that. I see that the Soft66AD costs $125, plus shipping from Japan, but you have to put it together yourself. If you do that, I would advise you to use better surface-mount techniques than the ones recommended on

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2010-01-25 Thread ni9n
: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Hi A full wave rectifier can also be used as a simple broad band doubler. The problem with the output of the DDS is that without filtering it is far from symmetrical in the upper octave. Some use bandpass filtering

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2010-01-24 Thread ni9n
Hi, Stephan! Yes, it uses a Tayloe detector, and the preselector filters are all third order. It's my understaniding that even the classic diode-ring mixers are really switching mixers, because the diodes in effect hard-limit the LO. In the frequency domain, using a Tayloe detector (or any

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2010-01-24 Thread Stephan Schaa
: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Hi, Stephan! Yes, it uses a Tayloe detector, and the preselector filters are all third order. It's my understaniding that even the classic diode-ring mixers are really switching mixers, because the diodes in effect hard-limit the LO

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2010-01-24 Thread Bob Camp
: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Hi, Stephan! Yes, it uses a Tayloe detector, and the preselector filters are all third order. It's my understaniding that even the classic diode-ring mixers are really switching mixers, because the diodes in effect hard-limit the LO

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2010-01-24 Thread Stephan Schaa
Hello Bob! Yes, thats the reason why the the RXs with only one frequency generator (like SDR 1000, or firefly) run at 4x RX frequency. They use the higher frequency to generate the two signals with 90 degrees shift at 2x RX frequency for I/Q generation. So in order to receive for example 30

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2010-01-24 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I think you will find that with the two DDS's at 90 degrees to each other you have sin(wt) and cosine(wt). That lets you do a multiply on each and ultimately get both the I and he Q signals you need. Another way to look at it: If you have 0 and 90 degrees out of the two DDS's, that gives

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2010-01-24 Thread Stephan Schaa
Hi Bob! I'm not a native english speaker, thats why I maybe not understand what you ment?! From what I know is: - you need (normally) double sampling rate from that frequency that you want to sample (Nyquist, 60 MHz sampling rate for 30 mhz frequency) - in addition to the above said for

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2010-01-24 Thread Bob Camp
Hi My assumption is that the DDSs run with a sample clock at 2x the 37 MHz. The chip is rated to go to 75 MHz on the sample clock input. That would give you a maximum clock output frequency of 75 / 2 = 37.5 MHz. Normally you can't actually use an output that close to the Nyquist frequency and

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2010-01-24 Thread Rotten Robbie
To: soft_radio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog Thanks for your explanations, Bob! I understand the principles of driving the mixer with a squarewave signal and that you use

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2010-01-24 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I believe the input clock on the DDS is 75 MHz. The data sheet for the DDS shows that as a correct input clock for the chip. From that the Nyquist is 37.5 MHz. The output of the DDS will go to 37 with a crazy filter. That output forms the LO (or clock if you prefer) for the mixer. Bob

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2010-01-24 Thread Stephan Schaa
This is a mixer, you are not trying to digitize the 30MHz signal where you would need a minimum of two samples, instead you are mixing it down to the base band. Ahh, ok, yes. This is where I made the mistake! You're right! But I'm still interested in mixer type and bandpassfilters of the

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2010-01-24 Thread Dave - WB6DHW
Stephan Schaa wrote: Thanks for your explanations, Bob! I understand the principles of driving the mixer with a squarewave signal and that you use a comparator to change sine to squarewave. Where I'm failing at is the trick how to receive 30 mhz with a DDS that make 37 MHz max

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2010-01-24 Thread Bob Camp
g4...@... To: soft_radio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog k5nwa wrote: At 12:04 PM 1/24/2010, you wrote: Thanks for your explanations, Bob

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2010-01-24 Thread ni9n
24, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [soft_radio] Re: LD-1 Discussion on Garage-shoppe.com Blog k5nwa wrote: At 12:04 PM 1/24/2010, you wrote: Thanks for your explanations, Bob! I understand the principles of driving the mixer