Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Vladimir Jankijevic
so that's where all your subscription money goes to: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmaya cheers everybody :P On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Jason Stambollian jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote: To me the similarity in situations between Avid getting DS and AD getting SI

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Eugen Sares
Same for max: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extension3dsmax Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Am 08.08.2013 16:40, schrieb Vladimir Jankijevic: so that's where all your subscription money goes to: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmaya

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Steffen Dünner
2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93

Convex Hull in ICE

2013-08-08 Thread Tim Bolland
Here is one for the technical guys out there. I'm currently having a play around with making a convex hull compound in ICE, and have been looking at the great Alok Gandhi blog as a guide ( http://alokgandhi.com/blog/2011/04/17/convex-hull-maths-can-be-fun/ ). How ever due to my lacking

Re: Convex Hull in ICE

2013-08-08 Thread Alan Fregtman
I imagine you're looking for pure ICE approaches, but for what it's worth, Guillaume Laforge made a C++ ICE node for convex hulls and was kind enough to provide its sourcecode as well: http://frenchdog.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/happy-2012/ On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Tim Bolland

Re: Convex Hull in ICE

2013-08-08 Thread Tim Bolland
Your right, for this I would be looking to create something like this in ICE. I had a look at Guillaume's plug-in and it works great for what I would like to achieve but my main aim here is to learn . In fact for the first step I would settle for making just a 2D convex hull like on Alok's

RE: Convex Hull in ICE

2013-08-08 Thread Grahame Fuller
Just noticed - inside Calc Temp Topology, connect Max Nb Triangles to the Max Repeat of the While node. I must have been using the frame number to step through and debug as it added a polygon at a time. gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Davidson
I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Angus Davidson
For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) From: Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 08 August 2013 06:20 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Mirko Jankovic
Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Eric Turman
. Bleh: Ad related to *Autodesk Softimage* 1. *Autodesk*® Maya® 2014 - *Autodesk*.comhttp://www.autodesk.com/Maya www.*autodesk*.com/Maya https://www.google.com/# - - Try The New, Upgraded Version Of Maya®. Download A Free Trial Today! 2. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Angus Davidson
Well that explains a few things. ;( From: Eric Turman [i.anima...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 August 2013 06:35 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! . Bleh: Ad related to Autodesk

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Rob Wuijster
i get this: Advertentie met betrekking tot *Autodesk Softimage*javascript:void(0) *Softimage*? http://www.aaadisplay.com/soft-image0297 591 413 www.aaadisplay.com/*soft-image*? *Softimage*: kwaliteit, licht snel. Bekijk nu onze Prijslijst online!? Not sure to laugh or cry a little :-\

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Rares Halmagean
To be fair though, I think it's safe to assume most people would simply search 'softimage' which does put softimage at the top of the page. On 8/8/2013 11:41 AM, Rares Halmagean wrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Matt Lind
Bosley hair transplants? What am I missing..besides hair? Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 9:21 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Gene Crucean
I honestly don't know how anyone could just let AD do this to them and just roll over and switch to another AD product. We've been bitching about this for years now and the writing is definitely on the wall. This is Banksy level shit... Houdini Modo Blender C4D etc... ... just sayin' --

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Gene Crucean
I mean hey... we got FBX 2014 support!! What else do we need. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.comwrote: I honestly don't know how anyone could just let AD do this to them and just roll over and switch to another AD product. We've been bitching about

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Jon Swindells
I suggest you be a bit more gentle with AD. they must be feeling the pinch if they go begging for money from Blender :P https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ-WgwkCEAAaAas.png On 8 August 2013 20:09, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: I mean hey... we got FBX 2014 support!! What else do

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Rares Halmagean
...unless you search xsi that is in which case you'll get maya at the top of the page again, followed second by 'procedural and visual effects softimage autodesk' . Inconsistent and confusing :-\ . On 8/8/2013 11:49 AM, Rares Halmagean wrote: To be fair though, I think it's safe to assume most

Re: Jittery strand-deformed instances

2013-08-08 Thread Philip Melancon
Not the answer I was hoping for, but at least it confirms that there's no way around it, guess I'll have to automate it Thanks! ModusFx On 07/08/2013 7:37 PM, Matt Lind wrote: ModusFx You are experiencing precision error with floating point values. As the integer portion increases, the

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Davidson
to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Christopher Crouzet
How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Alan Fregtman
This has come up before and official word as I recall is the products list in the menu is based off sales. Maya and Max have more clients than Soft. If it makes you feel better, Soft is one of the *Top products* here: http://www.autodesk.com/products On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Stephen

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Mirko Jankovic
Softimage 2014 SP3 clicking on SI icon will take you to Maya shop first... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Matt Lind
Let's do a quick review of history: - Microsoft bought softimage in 1994 and pushed DS and XSI onto windows. This put windows dependencies into both products. - Avid bought softimage after seeing the writing on the wall they'd be squashed by Microsoft if they didn't. -

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Juhani Karlsson
+1 On Aug 8, 2013 8:29 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu,

Spherical Harmonics in ICE

2013-08-08 Thread Vladimir Jankijevic
Hey gang, I was diving into Spherical Harmonics the last few days and I wanted to share my results with you. I ended up with two custom ICE nodes to generate/evaluate Spherical Harmonic coefficients and learned a lot during this exercise. So in case anybody is interested please take a look:

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Gene Crucean
Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Daniel Kim
Good point. I've changed 3d pipeline from Maya or Max to SI several times in past new job. I said SI is real great 3D software, but AD doesn't even have SI on their product list. What I have to show them was pull down All product menu and find it out. What other people see is SI is like a

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Jordi Bares
Funny enough I keep receiving tweets from Autodesk related to great work and articles done with… Softimage!!! amazing… I wish they sell the software to someone serious about it to rescue from its current state, it has been all downhill since Autodesk took over. Regarding the competitors, the

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Davidson
If I were using Softimage, I wouldn't be here (discussion group). :) This is what I do while waiting for a render... Catch up on the latest talk about new features, work-a-rounds, and industry gossip. Now that I work 100% on the internet, how else am I supposed to mingle with my peers? I can no

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Gene Crucean
Houdini is definitely the biggest contender right now... but I definitely see Blender as a *huge *threat to Autodesk. That software is going places and if they can just get a few dev's on board that understand pipeline and workflow a bit better... it will blow up. I love love love Houdini but

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Christopher Crouzet
It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Paul Doyle
tomorrow should be fun ;) On 8 August 2013 17:41, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.comwrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a

Re: Spherical Harmonics in ICE

2013-08-08 Thread David Barosin
Wow Vlad. Really impressive. Thanks for sharing. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Vladimir Jankijevic vladi...@elefantstudios.ch wrote: Hey gang, I was diving into Spherical Harmonics the last few days and I wanted to share my results with you. I ended up with two custom ICE nodes to

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Davidson
Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Alan Fregtman
* The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation.* * Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it.* * Google did not do this randomly.* Do a search for autodesk autocad... oh no, it promotes Maya too! Watch out, CAD folks! :p Also odd is autodesk mental

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Paul Doyle
Why does it need to be a specific advantage vs a general one? On 8 August 2013 18:08, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be

RE: Spherical Harmonics in ICE

2013-08-08 Thread Vince Baertsoen
Really nice! Vince Baertsoen co-head of CG The Mill NY Ext.: 2311 www.themill.com From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Vladimir Jankijevic [vladi...@elefantstudios.ch] Sent: Thursday, August 08,

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Christopher Crouzet
Apart of saying that we've got the biggest, does it really matter that Fabric Engine doesn't favor Softimage or any specific app at all? Knowing that I can code high performance stuff in Fabric and that I can use it in whatever 3D softwares still alive at a certain time sounds pretty neat to me as

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Houdini is a very, very serious alternative that, if invested in, can make a gimongous difference in a number of stretches of the pipe. Modo I can't really say I see as a competitor, it barely covers spots if you make movies or games. The problem is that literally NOTHING out there will cover the

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Matt Lind
Nope. I tried 'Autodesk Sucks' and got a facebook page instead. No ad. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Crouzet Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 3:34 PM To: Softimage Mailing List Subject: Re: Why

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Christopher Crouzet
I'm thinking that if we flood Google with Autodesk in my pants search queries, maybe it'll become the first autocomplete option when typing Autodesk. On 9 August 2013 00:36, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Nope. ** ** I tried ‘Autodesk Sucks’ and got a facebook page

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
autodesk SMB club points to some old prototyping page. If that doesn't mean all the fun and the resources are in CAM/CAE I don't know what would. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking that if we flood Google with Autodesk in my

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Davidson
Depends on which end you view the advantage from The general industry, or the specific artist or agency that is trying to win clients. It is just nice to have exclusive tools for particular apps, as far as selling animation services to a client goes. As far as the industry as a whole, it is

Maya Xgen

2013-08-08 Thread Ahmidou Lyazidi
So finally, this is how it look like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPZvG5H8MoY The funny thing is it's not that far from what we can do in ICE, actually I made a set of compound that can do pretty much the same thing: https://vimeo.com/19323411 It's just missing the vector paint tool(on my

Re: Maya Xgen

2013-08-08 Thread Daniel Kim
wow... that's very nice... Actually it's so jealous... graphically cool hair interface + control tool, and awesome high quality view... Daniel On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Ahmidou Lyazidi ahmidou@gmail.comwrote: So finally, this is how it look like:

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

2013-08-08 Thread Jason Stambollian
So looks like I spoke to soon lol ..after a decade+, DS is still (not so minimally) supported, (DS V11 Features http://www.avid.com/US/products/avid-ds/Features) while the few DS users (far fewer than SI) have been complaining about exposure and anticipating the end since Day 1 of the 'not so

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

2013-08-08 Thread Jason Stambollian
+1 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: buying competition for the purpose of shelving should be illegal, there should be a two year development proofing in which buyer must prove he has the DCC's best interest at hand. or the software

Re: Maya Xgen

2013-08-08 Thread Mirko Jankovic
graphically cool hair interface + control tool, and awesome high quality view... and so slow that I hardly see you using it with full fancy view port stuff on when working :) and mscatter for ICE already do same thing for trees but faster... so they are just wasting dev time creating something