Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-22 Thread Martin
Having official educational material oriented to new artists doesn't necessarily imply that the technical level and quality as a platform will have to decrease. You still need non technical average designers, artists, lots of them to produce CG. From 10 SI users I know about 9 of them doesn't

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-22 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
There's a big gap between that and the piecemeal path cinema 4D has taken :) QWERTY is also more used than the normal interaction model around here BTW. On 22 Jul 2013 19:43, Martin furik...@gmail.com wrote: Having official educational material oriented to new artists doesn't necessarily imply

RE: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-22 Thread Angus Davidson
If I can just chime in from an education point of view. Firstly I will say they have been getting better, but in the 6 years we have used Softimage the overall learning resources have been abysmal compared with the likes of Maya and 3Dmax. Both from a visibility and just easily availability.

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-22 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: Softimage even used to ship with a free digital tutors CD in. downloadable here? http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112id=15505750linkID=12544118

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-22 Thread Daniel Brassard
Just notice this book updated to 2014. Very basic but can help new students and others transitioning to Softimage. Autodesk Softimage 2014: A Tutorial-Approachhttp://www.amazon.com/Autodesk-Softimage-2014-Tutorial-Approach/dp/1936646560 I wish they would update the Production Serie CDs. Learned

RE: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-22 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Luceric I am aware it still downloadable ;)  There are still many places where that is still not a viable option(one of the reasons your still able to request the subscriptions on actual media instead of download) It would be nice if they could update it from the 7.5 version as well. Kind

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-21 Thread Andy Moorer
I think Cinema4D is a great example of the effectiveness of spoon-feeding newbies on basic techniques that give them results. C4D has very capable artists flocking to it, these are people who are intimidated by DCCs and yet who have a lot to offer... Designers and other creatives, Zbrush

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-21 Thread olivier jeannel
Not so long ago XSI was known because you could be up and running quickly. But ice is another story... Le 21/07/2013 20:42, Andy Moorer a écrit : I think Cinema4D is a great example of the effectiveness of spoon-feeding newbies on basic techniques that give them results. C4D has very capable

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-21 Thread Stephen Davidson
When Softimage became XSI, I thought the learning curve went from easy to hard, but once I gritted my teeth, and decided to learn XSI, I was convinced it was worth the extra effort to learn a new package. Now that ICE has been added, What little ICE I have learned has made my 3D work easier. I

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-21 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
In all honesty, if Soft was to go down the route C4D went in the last four years I'd move away from it in a hurry. This isn't some kind of mis-placed elitism, it's more that the appeal to the MCD of the app becomes more apparent each version, and while it's very fast and practical at doing many

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-21 Thread Andy Moorer
Whoa, hold on. I'm not suggesting Softimage try to become C4D... I'm just pointing out that they have done a great job of gaining new users by eliminating the fear of the learning curve and by putting effort into smoothing the barriers for new untechnical artists. But not hobbyists, artists,

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-21 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
I wasn't imply you suggested Soft becomes C4D :) I'm suggesting that if you drag in the MCD by its heels and it becomes the majority of your user base, then the development will have to cater to those and gradually lose the more technical userbase, in an infinite cycle that leaves you with C4D and

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Paul Griswold
They do have a YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/SoftimageHowTos -Paul On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Daniel Kim danielki...@gmail.com wrote: Softimage in NZ is almost $7k including subscription, but I can't believe they don't give any tutorials to customer. I've been using

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Leonard Koch
There are two fairly decent youtube channels by Autodesk. One focussed entirely on softimage with a lot of ICE: http://www.youtube.com/user/SoftimageHowTos And one looking at more technical aspects of all the Autodesk softwares: http://www.youtube.com/user/ScriptingSDKHowTos On Thu, Jul 18, 2013

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Ognjen Vukovic
I know its not from Autodesk, but i think this is a great collection for anyone looking to get into ice, http://vimeo.com/channels/softimageice On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Leonard Koch leonardkoch...@gmail.comwrote: There are two fairly decent youtube channels by Autodesk. One

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Chia
Hi Daniel, What Softimage areas are you looking at? Regards, Chris Sent from my iPhone On 18 Jul, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Daniel Kim danielki...@gmail.com wrote: Softimage in NZ is almost $7k including subscription, but I can't believe they don't give any tutorials to customer. I've been using

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread olivier jeannel
Best place for tuts is here : https://vimeo.com/groups/ice Its not tuts only, but all your friends are there :-) Le 18/07/2013 14:18, Chris Chia a écrit : Hi Daniel, What Softimage areas are you looking at? Regards, Chris Sent from my iPhone On 18 Jul, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Daniel Kim

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Alan Fregtman
Also Eric Thivierge runs a tutorials-only vimeo group: https://vimeo.com/groups/softimagetutorials/videos And (shameless plug) I record short'ish tutorials with my friend Miquel at: https://vimeo.com/tdsurvival/videos On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:26 AM, olivier jeannel

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Daniel Kim danielki...@gmail.com wrote: Softimage in NZ is almost $7k including subscription, but I can't believe they don't give any tutorials to customer. [...] AD seriously need to consider put some tutorials on their website or nicely run Softimage channel

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread javier gonzalez
I think that new peoples learning softimage, expect the same amount, that for example 3dmax tutorials, But i think there is enough softimage tutorials in order to get a high level in the use of the software. Maybe its necesary one space to point them all. My two cents 2013/7/18 Luc-Eric Rousseau

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
btw, every time you start Softimage, a little window pops up that says Important Information and contains a link to the softimage youtube channel.

RE: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Grahame Fuller
It's on the Help menu too, along with a link to the learning path and more. gray -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:42 AM To:

RE: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Chia
And a cool tutorial site on face robot: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL551AE1C29578EAE9 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Daniel Kim [danielki...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Mirko Jankovic
a bit OT but mentioning face robot.. what is happening with it? left on the side to die slow death or? from like a king of facial animation it is dropped to footnote inside SI, no one mentioning while there is a lot of real time facial capture solutions emerging all over the place. On Thu, Jul

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Stephen Davidson
When you first open up Softimage a window opens up called Netview. In that Netview window, there are two links listed: Essential Skills Videos - Getting Started (this is a good place to start) and Softimage YouTube Learning Channel If you left click on Essential Skills Videos - Getting Started,

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Daniel Brassard
Paul Smith excellent video series as well: http://vimeo.com/pooby On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: When you first open up Softimage a window opens up called Netview. In that Netview window, there are two links listed: Essential Skills Videos -

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Paul Griswold
Don't forget about http://www.redi-vivus.com - where you can find tons of older Softimage training. Even though it's dated, the majority of it is still very useful and can help you get up to speed. -Paul On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: When you

RE: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Nicholas Breslow
I learned a lot by recreating Stephen Blair's examples from http://xsisupport.com (I believe they are on Vimeo here https://vimeo.com/user595557 also). Plus recreate stuff posted here on the list and over at http://www.si-community.com/community/index.php. I did one or two a day for about a

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Daniel Kim
Thank you guys for sharing all tutorial links. Many tutorials are good for intermediate or advanced but basic stuff, such as interface or how to start. Those are hard to find (Digital tutors or YouTube movies have outdated one) And detailed tutorials for great tools such as ICE, Face Robot,

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Andy Moorer
Since this thread has turned into a defacto follection of latest softimage learning resources... some already mentioned but for completeness I'll add them as a single post... retail learning resources - http://www.fxphd.com/ http://cmivfx.com/store/ http://www.digitaltutors.com Communities Vimeo

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Stephen Davidson
Again... the beginner stuff like interface, and how to start, are located in the Netview window that pops up when you first start Softimage. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Daniel Kim danielki...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you guys for sharing all tutorial links. Many tutorials are good for

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Or for basic stuff they could, you know read the manuals? Shocking, I know. We also train a large number of people every year from Maya to Soft, and we've never had an issue with content availability, sure not enough of one to have to produce our own material in those regards, or pointing them to

RE: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Matt Lind
What's missing is the tutorials from AD covering the usage of the application. There are introductory tutorials for really, really basic stuff. There is reference for properties and such, which is often vague and sparse, or self-referential. However, there is a big void in the middle on how

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
The middle part of the learning curve is very, very badly serviced across the board, comparatively speaking Soft, largely thanks to who and why ICE and OOP Python appealed to, is probably above average, but that only implies needing to past a smidge above zero. Houdini sort of almost kind of makes

Re: I can't believe there is no tutorial for Softimage on Autodesk webiste

2013-07-18 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
in addition to looking at the front page of the user guide, and area.autodesk.com, which is where all the tutorials are, http://www.autodesk.com/softimage-tutorials for the collection of first party and third party stuff On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Andy Moorer andymoo...@gmail.com wrote: