Re: OT Utopia people
Hey Luca thanks for the info. By registering, do you mean there is a fee? Free registration does not seem to give you access to the employers’ contact. Perhaps we should wait for the new version From: Luca Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 23:42 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: OT Utopia people @David Saber I sent the website, a letter, about the UI that seems not to have a search by category, software and so on, and I received the response : Hi, Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! The website that you see is different than what our clients see. They are able to search as narrow as they want, for example, you can serach on software or particular skills as ability to make great steam, hair, fur and so on, or a specific camera, sound equipment. However, our site is getting dated and we are launching a new version in the very near future! Take care, Hanna Kallin So, maybe one needs to registers... 2013/1/9 Olwen Nash ollimat...@googlemail.com Hi folks, I recently had a very bad experience with an 'agent' (using the term loosely, as parasite / shark would be a much better description). He consistently withheld payment, despite having been paid by the client for the work I was doing. I am still currently owed over £2k for final invoices that were paid by my client back in October. I will name names in due course. In the meantime, be vary wary people. Cheers, Olly : ) On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Len Krenzler l...@creativecontrol.ca wrote: I would assume that sites like this need a critical mass of people using them to be effective. I'm not sure SI only would be enough and would it be much different from the Jobs section of the si-community? As a note, there hasn't been a new job posted there in about 3 months so not exactly highly active thing. On 1/8/2013 2:28 PM, olivier jeannel wrote: Exactly, we should have something similar and free. Le 08/01/2013 21:04, Eric Lampi a écrit : Perhaps I am misunderstanding you? (If so, sorry) You're not advocating using this service but think a similar, free service should be set up? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: That was my point, no need to pay. But the site interface is well done. I was thinking something like that for us could be cool. Maybe hosted @ si community or RRay. That's just an idea. But I pretty like what's happening at the moment with the softimage community. Small community, very helpfull and active (lots of tuts and giveaways). I believe this kind of tool could help being even more organized. Just a thought Le 08/01/2013 20:34, Eric Lampi a écrit : From the website: Working with TV, Film, VFX or New media? It's free to join utopiapeople and we represent you on a non-exclusive basis. We take a 15% fee on agency bookings (not permanent). I am absolutely against this sort of thing. Paying someone else a hefty fee just to get introduced to a company that desperately needs you? Be careful what you wish for, it might not work out for us in the long run, and I think that as an industry, we really better off discouraging these people as much as possible. What's next? You supply your own software and workstation? Oh yeah, wait... That's already happening to some people. Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.com wrote: It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
Re: OT Utopia people
Hi folks, I recently had a very bad experience with an 'agent' (using the term loosely, as parasite / shark would be a much better description). He consistently withheld payment, despite having been paid by the client for the work I was doing. I am still currently owed over £2k for final invoices that were paid by my client back in October. I will name names in due course. In the meantime, be vary wary people. Cheers, Olly : ) On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Len Krenzler l...@creativecontrol.ca wrote: I would assume that sites like this need a critical mass of people using them to be effective. I'm not sure SI only would be enough and would it be much different from the Jobs section of the si-community? As a note, there hasn't been a new job posted there in about 3 months so not exactly highly active thing. On 1/8/2013 2:28 PM, olivier jeannel wrote: Exactly, we should have something similar *and free.* Le 08/01/2013 21:04, Eric Lampi a écrit : Perhaps I am misunderstanding you? (If so, sorry) You're not advocating using this service but think a similar, free service should be set up? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.frwrote: That was my point, no need to pay. But the site interface is well done. I was thinking something like that for us could be cool. Maybe hosted @ si community or RRay. That's just an idea. But I pretty like what's happening at the moment with the softimage community. Small community, very helpfull and active (lots of tuts and giveaways). I believe this kind of tool could help being even more organized. Just a thought Le 08/01/2013 20:34, Eric Lampi a écrit : From the website: Working with TV, Film, VFX or New media? It's free to join utopiapeople and we represent you on a non-exclusive basis. We take a 15% fee on agency bookings (not permanent). I am absolutely against this sort of thing. Paying someone else a hefty fee just to get introduced to a company that desperately needs you? Be careful what you wish for, it might not work out for us in the long run, and I think that as an industry, we really better off discouraging these people as much as possible. What's next? You supply your own software and workstation? Oh yeah, wait... That's already happening to some people. Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.comwrote: It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- _ Len Krenzler - Creative Control Media Productions Phone: 780.463.3126 www.creativecontrol.ca - l...@creativecontrol.ca
Re: OT Utopia people
@David Saber I sent the website, a letter, about the UI that seems not to have a search by category, software and so on, and I received the response : *Hi, Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! The website that you see is different than what our clients see. They are able to search as narrow as they want, for example, you can serach on software or particular skills as ability to make great steam, hair, fur and so on, or a specific camera, sound equipment. However, our site is getting dated and we are launching a new version in the very near future! Take care, Hanna Kallin* So, maybe one needs to registers... 2013/1/9 Olwen Nash ollimat...@googlemail.com Hi folks, I recently had a very bad experience with an 'agent' (using the term loosely, as parasite / shark would be a much better description). He consistently withheld payment, despite having been paid by the client for the work I was doing. I am still currently owed over £2k for final invoices that were paid by my client back in October. I will name names in due course. In the meantime, be vary wary people. Cheers, Olly : ) On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Len Krenzler l...@creativecontrol.cawrote: I would assume that sites like this need a critical mass of people using them to be effective. I'm not sure SI only would be enough and would it be much different from the Jobs section of the si-community? As a note, there hasn't been a new job posted there in about 3 months so not exactly highly active thing. On 1/8/2013 2:28 PM, olivier jeannel wrote: Exactly, we should have something similar *and free.* Le 08/01/2013 21:04, Eric Lampi a écrit : Perhaps I am misunderstanding you? (If so, sorry) You're not advocating using this service but think a similar, free service should be set up? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.frwrote: That was my point, no need to pay. But the site interface is well done. I was thinking something like that for us could be cool. Maybe hosted @ si community or RRay. That's just an idea. But I pretty like what's happening at the moment with the softimage community. Small community, very helpfull and active (lots of tuts and giveaways). I believe this kind of tool could help being even more organized. Just a thought Le 08/01/2013 20:34, Eric Lampi a écrit : From the website: Working with TV, Film, VFX or New media? It's free to join utopiapeople and we represent you on a non-exclusive basis. We take a 15% fee on agency bookings (not permanent). I am absolutely against this sort of thing. Paying someone else a hefty fee just to get introduced to a company that desperately needs you? Be careful what you wish for, it might not work out for us in the long run, and I think that as an industry, we really better off discouraging these people as much as possible. What's next? You supply your own software and workstation? Oh yeah, wait... That's already happening to some people. Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.comwrote: It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- _ Len Krenzler - Creative Control Media Productions Phone: 780.463.3126 www.creativecontrol.ca - l...@creativecontrol.ca -- ...superpositiviii...qualunque cosa accada!...
Re: OT Utopia people
it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier
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It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier
Re: OT Utopia people
From the website: Working with TV, Film, VFX or New media? It's free to join utopiapeople and we represent you on a non-exclusive basis. We take a 15% fee on agency bookings (not permanent). I am absolutely against this sort of thing. Paying someone else a hefty fee just to get introduced to a company that desperately needs you? Be careful what you wish for, it might not work out for us in the long run, and I think that as an industry, we really better off discouraging these people as much as possible. What's next? You supply your own software and workstation? Oh yeah, wait... That's already happening to some people. Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.com wrote: It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
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That was my point, no need to pay. But the site interface is well done. I was thinking something like that for us could be cool. Maybe hosted @ si community or RRay. That's just an idea. But I pretty like what's happening at the moment with the softimage community. Small community, very helpfull and active (lots of tuts and giveaways). I believe this kind of tool could help being even more organized. Just a thought Le 08/01/2013 20:34, Eric Lampi a écrit : From the website: Working with TV, Film, VFX or New media? It's free to join utopiapeople and we represent you on a non-exclusive basis. We take a 15% fee on agency bookings (not permanent). I am absolutely against this sort of thing. Paying someone else a hefty fee just to get introduced to a company that desperately needs you? Be careful what you wish for, it might not work out for us in the long run, and I think that as an industry, we really better off discouraging these people as much as possible. What's next? You supply your own software and workstation? Oh yeah, wait... That's already happening to some people. Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.com mailto:a...@andynicholas.com wrote: It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com mailto:javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com mailto:jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
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You are misunderstanding the terms. The freelancer pays the 15% fee. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.frwrote: That was my point, no need to pay. But the site interface is well done. I was thinking something like that for us could be cool. Maybe hosted @ si community or RRay. That's just an idea. But I pretty like what's happening at the moment with the softimage community. Small community, very helpfull and active (lots of tuts and giveaways). I believe this kind of tool could help being even more organized. Just a thought Le 08/01/2013 20:34, Eric Lampi a écrit : From the website: Working with TV, Film, VFX or New media? It's free to join utopiapeople and we represent you on a non-exclusive basis. We take a 15% fee on agency bookings (not permanent). I am absolutely against this sort of thing. Paying someone else a hefty fee just to get introduced to a company that desperately needs you? Be careful what you wish for, it might not work out for us in the long run, and I think that as an industry, we really better off discouraging these people as much as possible. What's next? You supply your own software and workstation? Oh yeah, wait... That's already happening to some people. Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.comwrote: It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
Re: OT Utopia people
Perhaps I am misunderstanding you? (If so, sorry) You're not advocating using this service but think a similar, free service should be set up? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.frwrote: That was my point, no need to pay. But the site interface is well done. I was thinking something like that for us could be cool. Maybe hosted @ si community or RRay. That's just an idea. But I pretty like what's happening at the moment with the softimage community. Small community, very helpfull and active (lots of tuts and giveaways). I believe this kind of tool could help being even more organized. Just a thought Le 08/01/2013 20:34, Eric Lampi a écrit : From the website: Working with TV, Film, VFX or New media? It's free to join utopiapeople and we represent you on a non-exclusive basis. We take a 15% fee on agency bookings (not permanent). I am absolutely against this sort of thing. Paying someone else a hefty fee just to get introduced to a company that desperately needs you? Be careful what you wish for, it might not work out for us in the long run, and I think that as an industry, we really better off discouraging these people as much as possible. What's next? You supply your own software and workstation? Oh yeah, wait... That's already happening to some people. Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.comwrote: It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
Re: OT Utopia people
Anyone gets it to work? I go to http://www.utopiapeople.com/jobs Then , on the line of a job, I click on MER INFO A window opens, I can't see any button or link here, I can't contact the company offering the job...
Re: OT Utopia people
Exactly, we should have something similar _and free._ Le 08/01/2013 21:04, Eric Lampi a écrit : Perhaps I am misunderstanding you? (If so, sorry) You're not advocating using this service but think a similar, free service should be set up? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: That was my point, no need to pay. But the site interface is well done. I was thinking something like that for us could be cool. Maybe hosted @ si community or RRay. That's just an idea. But I pretty like what's happening at the moment with the softimage community. Small community, very helpfull and active (lots of tuts and giveaways). I believe this kind of tool could help being even more organized. Just a thought Le 08/01/2013 20:34, Eric Lampi a écrit : From the website: Working with TV, Film, VFX or New media? It's free to join utopiapeople and we represent you on a non-exclusive basis. We take a 15% fee on agency bookings (not permanent). I am absolutely against this sort of thing. Paying someone else a hefty fee just to get introduced to a company that desperately needs you? Be careful what you wish for, it might not work out for us in the long run, and I think that as an industry, we really better off discouraging these people as much as possible. What's next? You supply your own software and workstation? Oh yeah, wait... That's already happening to some people. Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.com mailto:a...@andynicholas.com wrote: It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com mailto:javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com mailto:jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
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I would assume that sites like this need a critical mass of people using them to be effective. I'm not sure SI only would be enough and would it be much different from the Jobs section of the si-community? As a note, there hasn't been a new job posted there in about 3 months so not exactly highly active thing. On 1/8/2013 2:28 PM, olivier jeannel wrote: Exactly, we should have something similar _and free._ Le 08/01/2013 21:04, Eric Lampi a écrit : Perhaps I am misunderstanding you? (If so, sorry) You're not advocating using this service but think a similar, free service should be set up? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: That was my point, no need to pay. But the site interface is well done. I was thinking something like that for us could be cool. Maybe hosted @ si community or RRay. That's just an idea. But I pretty like what's happening at the moment with the softimage community. Small community, very helpfull and active (lots of tuts and giveaways). I believe this kind of tool could help being even more organized. Just a thought Le 08/01/2013 20:34, Eric Lampi a écrit : From the website: Working with TV, Film, VFX or New media? It's free to join utopiapeople and we represent you on a non-exclusive basis. We take a 15% fee on agency bookings (not permanent). I am absolutely against this sort of thing. Paying someone else a hefty fee just to get introduced to a company that desperately needs you? Be careful what you wish for, it might not work out for us in the long run, and I think that as an industry, we really better off discouraging these people as much as possible. What's next? You supply your own software and workstation? Oh yeah, wait... That's already happening to some people. Eric On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.com mailto:a...@andynicholas.com wrote: It's free to register, but they take 15% commission from your daily rate. On 08 January 2013 at 17:40 Javier Vega javierelas...@gmail.com mailto:javierelas...@gmail.com wrote: it is a paying service? Im user of Utopia People, but I think that is a paying service just for the companies that search freelancers here. For the freelancers is free. Javier Vega jav...@zao3d.com mailto:jav...@zao3d.com http://www.zao3d.com http://blog.zao3d.com El 08/01/2013, a las 18:36, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr escribió: Does anyone know this site service ? http://www.utopiapeople.com/ I think the concept is great. I won't use it since this is a paying service (for what I've red). Would be nice to have something similar for xsi lancers around the globe. Olivier -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work -- _ Len Krenzler - Creative Control Media Productions Phone: 780.463.3126 www.creativecontrol.ca - l...@creativecontrol.ca
