On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:23:58AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> >
> > Why does that annoy you so much? I don't think folks understand it
> > and have noticed you repeatedly asking about it. /me just curious
>
> for one it messes up my filters.  since mailman doesn't send me a copy if i'm 
> on the to, or CC list.

You should be able to use mailman's WebUI to change the preferences
for your mailing list subscription to be sent the email from the
mailing list no matter what the other headers say.

>                       which then puts messages out of context.  I personally 
> find it rude and overly aggressive and offensive.

On our side of the world is it very common and quite natural so you
might want to reevaluate the feelings. ;-) There is nothing personal
there, it's a way of being efficient.

>                                               none of the fedora lists 
> operate that way,  people just reply to list.  If it was normal behaviour 
> that 
> im used i guess it wouldn't bother me.  but it not the normal behaviour.

I'm coming from environment where it is quite normal that there are
posts to mailing lists from people who are not subscribed to said
mailing list. Therefore, group reply is used because you cannot be
quite sure if the person is subscribed to said mailing list or not.
And it is better to risk the email being delivered twice (and possibly
filtered and de-duplicated on client side) than not to have the email
delivered at all. You are then Cc:'ed on replies, and it is seen as
completely normal.

The To: + Cc: mailing-list is used as a To: email, with the added
benefit of the email and the whole thread being archived, plus the
other mailing-list participants have the chance to chime in even if
they were not the primary intended recipients. This is seen as
preferred to pure private communication.

Yours,

-- 
Jan Pazdziora
Satellite Engineering, Red Hat

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