[Spice-devel] spicec or spice-gtk

2011-07-04 Thread John A. Sullivan III
Which client should one use? I'm a little confused reading the documentation version looking at the download page. http://spice-space.org/page/DeveloperStartPage says, client - this is the old spice client. It is still supported but is being phased out in favor of a new widgetized gtk/glib based

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec or spice-gtk

2011-07-04 Thread Alon Levy
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 01:25:01PM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: Which client should one use? I'm a little confused reading the documentation version looking at the download page. http://spice-space.org/page/DeveloperStartPage says, client - this is the old spice client. It is still

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec or spice-gtk

2011-07-04 Thread Damien Churchill
On Jul 4, 2011 6:25 PM, John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote: However, spicec looks like it is in 0.8.1 whereas the download page says gtk is experimental and provides a link with the latest versio being 0.6 from April. Thanks - John Hi, I believe that spice-gtk follows

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-05-02 Thread Kai Mosebach
Then I recommend that we create a library/framework/API so that companies can use spice much easier programmatically. Spice-Gtk has a complete API. It allows to create complete clients without GTK using spice-client-glib. This is basically a good approach I think - also to use the whole spice

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-05-02 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:48:27PM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: This is basically a good approach I think - also to use the whole spice client programmatically. What I would like to see here would be a clean split between the spice-client-glib (w/o the gtk parts) and spicy(the gtk parts) if

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-05-02 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:59:33PM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: The question is if I could get a libspice-client-glib without gtk at all? Ah, this should be doable, but you'd need to patch configure.ac and gtk/Makefile.am for that, patches welcome :) Christophe pgplacMiE2Ta6.pgp Description:

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Kai Mosebach
The slim barebone one :) Without all the gtk overhead... I think if the audio-interface was more portable it would make a pretty good starting point for porting. On 4/29/11 11:05 AM, Christophe Fergeau cferg...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:56:11AM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: I

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:10:02AM +0200, Kai Mosebach wrote: The slim barebone one :) Without all the gtk overhead... What overhead? I think if the audio-interface was more portable it would make a pretty good starting point for porting. it? Something requiring X11 osx support isn't good

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Cliff Sharp
There are companies that only use spicec that don't want to make changes right now. On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 10:54 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 03:57:50PM -0500, Cliff Sharp wrote: I have spice-gtk built and running on OSX. It has some issues but it does connect. I

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 07:49:14AM -0400, Cliff Sharp wrote: There are companies that only use spicec that don't want to make changes right now. Not on OSX, do they? I'm really not understanding why using spice-gtk seems to be so bad for you :( Christophe pgpByFrLpGmPB.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Cliff Sharp
I never said that spice-gtk is bad for me. There are companies that need and use spicec. On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 14:06 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 07:49:14AM -0400, Cliff Sharp wrote: There are companies that only use spicec that don't want to make changes right

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 07:22:12AM -0500, Cliff Sharp wrote: I never said that spice-gtk is bad for me. There are companies that need and use spicec. Once again, why do they *need* it as opposed to they need a spice client, they don't really care if it's C, python, raw X, Qt, ... Saying these

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Cliff Sharp
Good question... Here are some recommendations -- There are a number of companies that interface to spicec programmatically. These companies right now do a fork exec or whatever to run spicec from within their software products. There are a number of reasons why they do not implement the spice

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi, - Original Message - There are a number of companies that interface to spicec programmatically. These companies right now do a fork exec or whatever to run spicec from within their software products. There are a number of reasons why they do not implement the spice protocol

Re: [Spice-devel] spicec and spice-gtk

2011-04-29 Thread Cliff Sharp
This is great - thank you On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Marc-André Lureau wrote: Hi, - Original Message - There are a number of companies that interface to spicec programmatically. These companies right now do a fork exec or whatever to run spicec from within their software