Re: [NSP] dravni neprijatelji
Bravo Jelo, bravo Jelo! Ziveli Srbi-slobodnjaci! Uaaa mondijalisti! Jovan Grbic __ On 18 Jun 2001, at 0:57, Jela Jovanovic wrote: Moja omiljene parole koje sam juce uzvikivala preko megafona, na putu od Trga Rebublike do centrlanog zatvora: IDEMO PO SLOBU NECE VISE AMERIKA DA NAM BIRA PREDSEDNIKA DOLE BABA SERA MACKAR KOSTUNICA CIJINA POSTENJACINA DOLE PUCISTI OD 5.OKTOBRA DOLE BANDA IZDAJNIKA DOLE DOSMANLIJE DOLE NATO POTURICE DOLE SMRDLJIVI PRLJAVI BATIC STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [NSP] SPO-studioB nova tv bastilja
Vise deluje kao TV Sing-Sing. To su najbolje pokazali u subotu. Dakle, posle priloga o demonstracijama protiv Haskog Tribunala, objavili su letak koji je dva dana ranije osvanuo u postanskim sanducicima beogradjana. Ali, kako su to uradili. Otprilike ovako je tekao kometar voditeljke vesti u 7 na studiju B. Objasnila je kako je jedna njihova slusateljka dobila u sanducicu letak koji ju je mnogo uznemirio i na kome pise to i to. (Rec je o letku o kome smo prethodno pisali) I kako su oni konsultovali neke sociologe koji su se samo nasmejali na sadrzinu letka. Ali posto letak moze da uznemiri gradjane, a isti je po njima vidjen i na mitingu SPS-a, oni su resili da pozovu interventnu ekipu policije. (Za one koji ne znaju, interventna ekipa se vozi dzipovima pajero mitsubishi i imaju maskirne uniforme, kackete i naravno one dugacke pendreke). I onda sledi slika. Dva policajca u normalnim uniformama, dakle svetlo plave kosulje, sapke na glavama i tamnoplave pantalone, sede za malim stolom u redakciji Studija B, razgledaju letak i pisu izvestaj. Sledi opet komentar vrle novinarke kako su policajci utvrdili da nije rec o letku kucne izrade vec o letku koji je stampan u stampariji i sacinili su tim povodom sluzbeni izvestaj. Dakle, sada mediji proganjaju stampace bilo kakvih letaka, dok su nekad vlasti to radile a uz put progonile i medije. Studio B je sad tu uspostavio vezu kako su leci antidrzavni, vredjaju vlastodrzce (to bas tako nisu rekli) DOS-a, pa kako su se pojavili i na mitingu, zakljucak bi bio ( a on nije izrecen vec je u pitanju sugestija) da iza toga stoji SPS i ostali koji su ucestvovali na mitingu i protestnoj setnji do centralnog zatvora. Zanimljivo je da novinari u Srbiji vise se ne postavljaju kao oni koji treba da informisu javnost vec kao logisticka podrska Vladanu Baticu. Plus, da ne govorimo da je ceo komentar na Studiju B bio ono sto bi nezavisno udruzenje novinara srbije (NUNS) okarakterisalo kao govor mrznje. Ono sto mi se cini interesantno jeste da je sps naucio nesta iz svojih gresaka ali da DOS nije nista naucio iz gresaka sps-a. Medijska slika o mitingu sps-a protiv haskog tribunala je isto tako interesantna. Samo 45 sekundi, uz sliku, ali i komentar kako su cuvari vatre kojima je inace vodja bio Cedomir Jovanovic (sada sef poslanicke grupe DOS-a u republickoj skupstini) taj miting ocenili kao sramotan. Nigde ni reci o setnji, Samo jedan karatak kadar o protestu ispred centralnog zatvora, uz komentar kako je dat ultimatum vlastima da za 7 dana puste Milosevica iz zatvora. Studio B je ipak bio objetktivniji, dati su intervjui nekoliko lidera sps-a, ali nigde nije snimljena kolona u setnji, vec samo je dat broj (a kao izvor su navedeni zapadni mediji) ucesnika setnje - preko 10.000 ljudi. -Original Message-From: SAVA VIDANOVIC [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: STOP_NSP [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:34 AMSubject: [NSP] SPO-studioB nova tv bastilja STRANACKA SAOPTENJA SPO: Studio B - nova TV bastilja Gradski odbor Srpskog pokreta obnove iz Beograda juce je otro protestovao zbog uredivacke politike Radio-televizije Studio B, ocenjujuci da je ta kuca nova TV bastilja. U saoptenju SPO-a se navodi da nijedan predstavnik te stranke za devet meseci kontrole DOS-a nad Studiom B nije dobio poziv da se pojavi u programu te gradske radio-televizije. (Beta) SPS: Konsolidovali smo svoje redove Podrka vie od 50.000 gradana, pristalica i simpatizera Socijalisticke partije Srbije na subotnjem mitingu, odrzanom pod motom Sve za Srbiju, Srbiju ni za ta, pokazuje da su socijalisti konsolidovali svoje redove i da, uprkos progonima, politicki jacaju, ocenio je juce predsednik Pokrajinskog odbora SPS za Vojvodinu Duan Bajatovic. Povodom licitiranja s brojem ucesnika mitinga, koji se u medijima kretao od 2.000 do najvie 10.000, Bajatovic je na vanrednoj konferenciji za novinare rekao da su, ocito, mnogi zateceni ovom dosad najuspenijom akcijom SPS-a. (Tanjug) SRS: Protiv zakona o saradnji sa Hagom Srpska radikalna stranka saoptila je juce da ce njeni poslanici na sednici Savezne skuptine, na kojoj ce se odlucivati o isporucivanju srpskih gradana Hakom tribunalu, glasati za odbranu srpske casti i nacionalnog dostojanstva i odbranu srpske drzavnosti. (Tanjug) DS: Skuptina stranke u oktobru Zlatibor, 17. juna (Beta) Izborna skuptina Demokratske stranke bice odrzana u oktobru, odluceno je danas na Glavnom odboru stranke, koji je odrzan na Zlatiboru, rekli su agenciji Beta clanovi Glavnog odbora. STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKUSTOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was
Re: [NSP] NIN - Prozor u svet
To se ne moze otkriti. Ali verovatno je u pitanju uobicajenih 10%. -Original Message- From: SAVA VIDANOVIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, June 18, 2001 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [NSP] NIN - Prozor u svet GOSPODINE DARKO; dali se moze doci do informacija koliko je Bil Gates na ime provizije poloziona racun Djindjica u inostranstvu za SRPSKO trziste MIKROSOFT-a? SV. - Original Message - From: Darko Nadic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: STOP NSP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:37 AM Subject: Re: [NSP] NIN - Prozor u svet STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] predlog
Predlazem gospodju Draganu Kuzmanovic za novog clana Mreze. Gospodja Kuzmanovic je clan Narodne straze i portparol JUL-a. Zena je pametna, lepa i beskrajno hrabra. Jela Jpovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Fw: [NSP] dravni neprijatelji
Tu gamad cemo da tepamo muski! pukovnik - Original Message - From: Darko Nadic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: STOP NSP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [NSP] dravni neprijatelji Sto se tice Batica on neka proseta Beogradom od Slavije do Kalemegdana 27. juna. To mu je adekvatno drustvo. -Original Message- From: Jela Jovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NSP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:12 AM Subject: [NSP] dravni neprijatelji Moja omiljene parole koje sam juce uzvikivala preko megafona, na putu od Trga Rebublike do centrlanog zatvora: IDEMO PO SLOBU NECE VISE AMERIKA DA NAM BIRA PREDSEDNIKA DOLE BABA SERA MACKAR KOSTUNICA CIJINA POSTENJACINA DOLE PUCISTI OD 5.OKTOBRA DOLE BANDA IZDAJNIKA DOLE DOSMANLIJE DOLE NATO POTURICE DOLE SMRDLJIVI PRLJAVI BATIC dole feldrmarsal covic dole covic kriminalac cova ukrao fabriku u Baranji dole balkanski mafijas djindjic dole belosvetska protuva, pucista, terorista, kidnaper, rekatas djindjic dole mihajlovic kriminalac pavkovicu ko ti bira generale Ko je general krstic pijandura Krstic covicev kafanski pajtas ko je ceda jovanovici? poslanik DOS-a narkoman hocete li da nam deca budu kao ceda samo pet doza dnevno ceda voli konje kupio nam ceda konja za $250.000 raja je uzivala Kada smo prolazili pored FK Oblic pozdravila nas je gospodja Ceca Raznatovic raja je skandirala iz sveg glasa ARKAN HEROJ IDEMO PO SLOBU Juce su srpski nacionalisti stidljivo ali ostro krenuli, da se Dacic nije prestravio, desnicari bi oslobodili Slobu. Mnogo su bre pitomi socijalisti, sve vreme opominju i kume nacionaliste da ne padne krv, a desnicari se naostrili, kada su krenuli da ruse ogradu, panduri su se skamenili, dotrcali do Dacica i pripretili da ce da bacaju suzavac na deset hiljada gusto zbijenih ljudi . Danas je smrdljivi batic pretio, da ce da se obracuna sa drzavnim neprijateljima koji ometaju rad pravosudnih organa pukovnik STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [NSP] SPO-studioB nova tv bastilja
Hvala ti, Darko, za izvestaj, i komentare. Mnogo popzdrava, Tika Jankovic -Original Message- From: Darko Nadic [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 7:06 AM To: STOP NSP Subject: Re: [NSP] SPO-studioB nova tv bastilja Vise deluje kao TV Sing-Sing. To su najbolje pokazali u subotu. Dakle, posle priloga o demonstracijama protiv Haskog Tribunala, objavili su letak koji je dva dana ranije osvanuo u postanskim sanducicima beogradjana. Ali, kako su to uradili. Otprilike ovako je tekao kometar voditeljke vesti u 7 na studiju B. Objasnila je kako je jedna njihova slusateljka dobila u sanducicu letak koji ju je mnogo uznemirio i na kome pise to i to. (Rec je o letku o kome smo prethodno pisali) I kako su oni konsultovali neke sociologe koji su se samo nasmejali na sadrzinu letka. Ali posto letak moze da uznemiri gradjane, a isti je po njima vidjen i na mitingu SPS-a, oni su resili da pozovu interventnu ekipu policije. (Za one koji ne znaju, interventna ekipa se vozi dzipovima pajero mitsubishi i imaju maskirne uniforme, kackete i naravno one dugacke pendreke). I onda sledi slika. Dva policajca u normalnim uniformama, dakle svetlo plave kosulje, sapke na glavama i tamnoplave pantalone, sede za malim stolom u redakciji Studija B, razgledaju letak i pisu izvestaj. Sledi opet komentar vrle novinarke kako su policajci utvrdili da nije rec o letku kucne izrade vec o letku koji je stampan u stampariji i sacinili su tim povodom sluzbeni izvestaj. Dakle, sada mediji proganjaju stampace bilo kakvih letaka, dok su nekad vlasti to radile a uz put progonile i medije. Studio B je sad tu uspostavio vezu kako su leci antidrzavni, vredjaju vlastodrzce (to bas tako nisu rekli) DOS-a, pa kako su se pojavili i na mitingu, zakljucak bi bio ( a on nije izrecen vec je u pitanju sugestija) da iza toga stoji SPS i ostali koji su ucestvovali na mitingu i protestnoj setnji do centralnog zatvora. Zanimljivo je da novinari u Srbiji vise se ne postavljaju kao oni koji treba da informisu javnost vec kao logisticka podrska Vladanu Baticu. Plus, da ne govorimo da je ceo komentar na Studiju B bio ono sto bi nezavisno udruzenje novinara srbije (NUNS) okarakterisalo kao govor mrznje. Ono sto mi se cini interesantno jeste da je sps naucio nesta iz svojih gresaka ali da DOS nije nista naucio iz gresaka sps-a. Medijska slika o mitingu sps-a protiv haskog tribunala je isto tako interesantna. Samo 45 sekundi, uz sliku, ali i komentar kako su cuvari vatre kojima je inace vodja bio Cedomir Jovanovic (sada sef poslanicke grupe DOS-a u republickoj skupstini) taj miting ocenili kao sramotan. Nigde ni reci o setnji, Samo jedan karatak kadar o protestu ispred centralnog zatvora, uz komentar kako je dat ultimatum vlastima da za 7 dana puste Milosevica iz zatvora. Studio B je ipak bio objetktivniji, dati su intervjui nekoliko lidera sps-a, ali nigde nije snimljena kolona u setnji, vec samo je dat broj (a kao izvor su navedeni zapadni mediji) ucesnika setnje - preko 10.000 ljudi. -Original Message- From: SAVA VIDANOVIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: STOP_NSP [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:34 AM Subject: [NSP] SPO-studioB nova tv bastilja STRANACKA SAOPSTENJA SPO: Studio B - nova TV bastilja Gradski odbor Srpskog pokreta obnove iz Beograda juce je ostro protestovao zbog uredivacke politike Radio-televizije Studio B, ocenjujuci da je ta kuca nova TV bastilja. U saopstenju SPO-a se navodi da nijedan predstavnik te stranke za devet meseci kontrole DOS-a nad 'Studiom B' nije dobio poziv da se pojavi u programu te gradske radio-televizije. (Beta) _ SPS: Konsolidovali smo svoje redove Podrska vise od 50.000 gradana, pristalica i simpatizera Socijalisticke partije Srbije na subotnjem mitingu, odrzanom pod motom Sve za Srbiju, Srbiju ni za sta, pokazuje da su socijalisti konsolidovali svoje redove i da, uprkos progonima, politicki jacaju, ocenio je juce predsednik Pokrajinskog odbora SPS za Vojvodinu Dusan Bajatovic. Povodom licitiranja s brojem ucesnika mitinga, koji se u medijima kretao od 2.000 do najvise 10.000, Bajatovic je na vanrednoj konferenciji za novinare rekao da su, ocito, mnogi zateceni ovom dosad najuspesnijom akcijom SPS-a. (Tanjug) _ SRS: Protiv zakona o saradnji sa Hagom Srpska radikalna stranka saopstila je juce da ce njeni poslanici na sednici Savezne skupstine, na kojoj ce se odlucivati o isporucivanju srpskih gradana Haskom tribunalu, glasati za odbranu srpske casti i nacionalnog dostojanstva i odbranu srpske drzavnosti. (Tanjug) _ DS: Skupstina stranke u oktobru Zlatibor, 17. juna (Beta)
Re: [NSP] predlog
Slazem se sa predlogom Jeleo prijemu Dragane Kuzmanovic za clana nase mreze, ne samo zato sto je clan narodne straze, vec sto je hrabra, pametna i posebno lepa. Zelim gospodji Kuzmanovic plodan rad u nasem drustvu. Vidanovic - Original Message - From: Jela Jovanovic To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; NSP Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: [NSP] predlog Predlazem gospodju Draganu Kuzmanovic za novog clana Mreze. Gospodja Kuzmanovic je clan Narodne straze i portparol JUL-a. Zena je pametna, lepa i beskrajno hrabra. Jela Jpovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKUSTOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [NSP] predlog
Jelo, PRIHVATAMO OBRAZLOZENJE I NJU, OBERUCKE! DAJ NAM JOS NEKOLIKO TAKVIH! ZA SADA SMO DEBALANSIRANI! l.p. - Original Message - From: Jela Jovanovic To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; NSP Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: [NSP] predlog Predlazem gospodju Draganu Kuzmanovic za novog clana Mreze. Gospodja Kuzmanovic je clan Narodne straze i portparol JUL-a. Zena je pametna, lepa i beskrajno hrabra. Jela Jpovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKUSTOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] banjaluka-sukob policije i civila
U BANJALUCI OZNAEN POETAK IZGRADNJE FERHAT-PAINE DAMIJE Postavljen temeljac, dvadesetak povreenih Sukob policajaca i demonstranata. - Politiari zadovoljni to je dogaaj protekao "bez veih incidenata" (Od naeg stalnog dopisnika) Banjaluka, 18. juna Verski poglavar Islamske verske zajednice u BiH reis-ul-ulema Mustafa Ceri, polaui danas kamen temeljac za izgradnju u prolom ratu poruene Ferhat-paine damije, pozvao je graane, politiare i vernike da ovaj kamen simbolino poslui kao "kamen dijaloga, kamen pomirenja i obnavljanja poverenja izmeu hriana i muslimana ne samo u RS nego u celoj BiH". U prisustvu predstavnika diplomatskog kora BiH i amerikog ambasadora Tomasa Milera, zatim stotinak vernika i gostiju, ovom inu je prisustvovao i ministar inostranih poslova u Veu ministara BiH Zlatko Lagumdija koji je ocenio da je ovo danas prvi korak u izgradnji drave koja bi trebalo za sobom da ostavi vreme haotinosti, bezakonja i terora. Islamski vernici prinose ovna kao rtvu za temelj damije Predsednik Republike Srpske Mirko arovi je posle polaganja kamena temeljca ocenio kratko za na list da je "veoma vano da je ovaj dogaaj protekao u redu, jer jo jednu eskalaciju nasilja Republika Srpska ne bi mogla da podnese". Predsednik vlade RS Mladen Ivani smatra da je uspeno polaganje kamena temeljca "dokaz demokratinosti potovanja ljudskih prava i sloboda u Republici Srpskoj". Odgovarajui na novinarsko pitanje kako ocenjuje ispad grupe demonstranata udaljenih na tri stotine metara od temelja damije, koja je pokuala da prodre kroz kordone policije, Ivani je rekao da e "demonstranata uvek biti, a na ministru unutranjih poslova je da obezbedi danas i ubudue objekat medlisa Islamske verske zajednice i kamen temeljac Ferhadije". Sukob srpske policije i srpskih demonstranata Naime, grupa od nekoliko stotina demonstranata ispred hotela "Palas" u glavnoj ulici pokuala je da probije tri linije obezbeenja mesta dogaaja, oko koga je u krugu od 300 do 1.500 metara policija u nekoliko kordona sainila neprobojan zid. Odmah posle polaganja kamena temeljca demonstranti su prvo bacali petarde, a potom kamenje, da bi im pri pokuaju pomeranja linije kordona, policija uzvratila mrkovima iz ledenih topova. Posle toga je pedesetak najupornijih napalo policiju ciglama, letvama i velikim gromadama kamenja. U tom prvom sukobu povreeno je petnaestak policajaca, od kojih su petorica imali teke povrede od rasekotina i udaraca ciglama po glavi. Potom je policija u vie navrata suzavcem i vodenim topovima reagovala, tako da je posle potiskivanja demonstranata ka centru grada dolo do potpunog razbijanja mase. Policajci su ocenili da je fiziko razbijanje grupa jedini nain da se situacija u centru grada smiri, pa se posle akcije policije, dok ovo javljamo, stanje u gradnju normalizovalo. Niko od gostiju nije povreen. Jedan strani kamerman je fiziki napadnut i prebijen, a kamera mu je oteta poto se nekome od demonstranata obratio na engleskom jeziku. Posle ina polaganja kamena temeljca, kada je po islamskom obredu prineta rtva - mladi ovan koji je zaklan kod kamena koji je poloen na stare temelje - izbili su i prvi sukobi policije i demonstranata, koji su pratili ceo dogaaj. Policija je odmah privela dvojicu izgrednika i obavestila demonstrante da se ceo dogaaj snima i da e svaki od uesnika biti lako identifikovan. To je bilo poslednje upozorenje svim uesnicima dogaaja. Dok ovo javljamo, stanje u gradu je mirno i pod kontrolom policije iji bi ministar upravo trebalo kasno po pdne da se obrati novinarima. D. Kecman SAOPTENJE MUP BANJALUKE Privedeno 60 demonstranata Banjaluka, 18. juna Najupornijih 60 demonstranata kojima nisu smetali ni suzavac ni vodeni top, uhapeno je i privedeno istranom sudiji koji e utvrditi prekraje ili krivina dela poinjena prema 2.226 policajaca na obezbeenju polaganja kamena temeljca u Banjaluci. Epilog demonstracija je devet lake povreenih policajaca, dok su samo etiri civila, uesnika demonstracija zatraila lekarsku pomo na hirurkom odeljenju banjalukog Kliniko-bolnikog centra. Ovo su na konferenciji za novinare odranoj danas kasno posle podne u Banjaluci saoptili Dragan Gaea, naelnik uprave policije i javne bezednosti, Milorad Eimovi, naelnik Centra slube javne bezbednosti Banjaluke i Zoran Strugar, portparol MUP RS. Eimovi je rekao da mimo dogovora dve jedinice Sfora, koje su bile stacionirane u centru grada, pored temelja damije Ferhadija su uklonile noas nekoliko parkiranih automobila koje su tom prilikom pripadnici Sfora otetili. On je dodao da su tokom popodneva snage Sfora napustile grad i izmestile se pored Banjaluke. Na kraju, Eimovi je rekao da je bila lana dojava da je podmetnuta bomba u zgradi optine u Banjaluci, koju su zbog toga danas oko 13 asova slubenici napustili. MUP RS je ovoga puta organizovao obezbeivanje dogaaja polaganja kamena temeljca tako to je veliki
[NSP] Vesti SPO za 18.6.2001.
SRPSKI POKRET OBNOVE Ponedeljak, 18. jun 2001. SRBI NISU VAMPIRI Zahtevamo od Elektroprivrede Srbije i republièkog ministarstva za energetiku da graðanima Srbije omoguæe da ponovo koriste jeftiniju struju u popodnevnim èasovima i tokom vikenda. Graðani Srbije nisu vampiri koji, zbog skupe struje tokom dana, moraju da posle ponoæi peru, kuvaju, peglaju i koriste elektriène aparate za obavljanje drugih poslova u domaæinstvima. NARODU OTROVNA VODA, VLASTIMA VISKI Najotrije protestujemo to gradske vlasti i rukovodstvo optinskog Javnog komunalnog preduzeæa nisu nita preduzeli da stanovnici optine Grocka dobiju zdravu vodu. Analiza Gradskog zavoda za zatitu zdravlja, obavljena jo pre tri meseca, pokazala je da voda u prigradskim naseljima Umèarima i Pudarcima nije ispravna za piæe, ali se graðani i dalje truju, a nadleni u Gradskoj skuptini æute i piju viski na svakodnevnim proslavama. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.spo.org.yu STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
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NEMA FRKE Mika -Original Message-From: Jela Jovanovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 2:46 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NSPSubject: [NSP] predlog Predlazem gospodju Draganu Kuzmanovic za novog clana Mreze. Gospodja Kuzmanovic je clan Narodne straze i portparol JUL-a. Zena je pametna, lepa i beskrajno hrabra. Jela Jpovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKUSTOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[SNN] The U.S. always forgets half the war and half the world
The U.S. always forgets half the war and half the world Laura Flanders Singapore is in the middle of a large, biennial arts festival and audiences here are frankly more interested in the international performers that are visiting than in the U.S. blockbuster that doesn't open here until next week. But reviews are trickling in from the Straits Times U.S. bureau; they complain, among other things, that there are no Pacific Islanders in Hollywood's Hawaii, and no mention of a rather significant regional war in which the attack on Pearl Habor was only a part. Go to the elegant National History Museum in Singapore's colonial center and you're gently reminded that on the day of the attack on Pearl Harbor, Japan simultaneously invaded the Philippines, Wake Island, Guam, Thailand, Malaysia, Shanghai and the island of Midway. By February 1942, the Sino-Japanese war had spread to most of Southeast Asia. Pearl Harbor however, chooses to leave that whole war out. Historians at the National Museum say that Washington would have been less surprised by the Japanese in December 1941, if Americans hadn't been so handicapped by their own prejudices and ignorance. Common stereotypes of squinty-eyed Asians fed foolish skepticism about the ability of Japanese pilots: The Americans paid for believing their own propaganda, say the Singaporeans. Japan's so-called Zero aircraft shown in the movie as if they were in shocking use for the first time had actually been in use against China for a year. The truth about Pearl Harbor is that Roosevelt et al were nowhere near as surprised as the movie suggests. Far from it. But Hollywood kept the U.S. public in the dark then, and Hollywood does the same today. It's a dark that costs lives, but it's invaluable to big power policymakers. Right now, for example, as George W Bush travels to Europe and speaks about building a constructive new relationship with Russia, he makes no such overture to Beijing and forges ahead with Missile Defense. From here, that's seen as disrespect, verging on the bellicose, yet the U.S. public is kept in almost total ignorance about the importance of China in this half of the world, for example. There's not one superpower, but rather two, as far as the Pacific's concerned, and China's closer. Just as there's not only one World War II but several, and Hollywood's version is a joke. Laura Flanders WORKINGFORCHANGE http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemId=11383 Miroslav Antic, http://www.antic.org/ Serbian News Network - SNN [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antic.org/
[NSP] The U.S. always forgets half the war and half the world
The U.S. always forgets half the war and half the world Laura Flanders Singapore is in the middle of a large, biennial arts festival and audiences here are frankly more interested in the international performers that are visiting than in the U.S. blockbuster that doesn't open here until next week. But reviews are trickling in from the Straits Times U.S. bureau; they complain, among other things, that there are no Pacific Islanders in Hollywood's Hawaii, and no mention of a rather significant regional war in which the attack on Pearl Habor was only a part. Go to the elegant National History Museum in Singapore's colonial center and you're gently reminded that on the day of the attack on Pearl Harbor, Japan simultaneously invaded the Philippines, Wake Island, Guam, Thailand, Malaysia, Shanghai and the island of Midway. By February 1942, the Sino-Japanese war had spread to most of Southeast Asia. Pearl Harbor however, chooses to leave that whole war out. Historians at the National Museum say that Washington would have been less surprised by the Japanese in December 1941, if Americans hadn't been so handicapped by their own prejudices and ignorance. Common stereotypes of squinty-eyed Asians fed foolish skepticism about the ability of Japanese pilots: The Americans paid for believing their own propaganda, say the Singaporeans. Japan's so-called Zero aircraft shown in the movie as if they were in shocking use for the first time had actually been in use against China for a year. The truth about Pearl Harbor is that Roosevelt et al were nowhere near as surprised as the movie suggests. Far from it. But Hollywood kept the U.S. public in the dark then, and Hollywood does the same today. It's a dark that costs lives, but it's invaluable to big power policymakers. Right now, for example, as George W Bush travels to Europe and speaks about building a constructive new relationship with Russia, he makes no such overture to Beijing and forges ahead with Missile Defense. From here, that's seen as disrespect, verging on the bellicose, yet the U.S. public is kept in almost total ignorance about the importance of China in this half of the world, for example. There's not one superpower, but rather two, as far as the Pacific's concerned, and China's closer. Just as there's not only one World War II but several, and Hollywood's version is a joke. Laura Flanders WORKINGFORCHANGE http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemId=11383 Miroslav Antic, http://www.antic.org/ STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] Putin Urges Disarming of Rebels in Kosovo
June 18, 2001 Putin Urges Disarming of Rebels in Kosovo By CARLOTTA GALL http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/18/world/18PUTI.html SKOPJE, Macedonia, June 17 Russia and Yugoslavia said today that Kosovo was the main cause of instability in the Balkans and urged world leaders to ensure that Albanian terrorists in Kosovo and the region were completely disarmed. President Vladimir V. Putin, the first Russian president to visit Yugoslavia in over a decade, later warned that Macedonia could be a repeat of Kosovo, if Western pressure pushed the Macedonian leadership to give in to the demands of the rebels. Stability in the region is seriously threatened, above all from national religious extremism and intolerance, the main source of which today is in Kosovo, Mr. Putin told reporters after his talks with President Vojislav Kostunica of Yugoslavia. Mr. Putin was making a short working visit to Belgrade to show support for the eight-month-old government of President Kostunica, as it pulls the country out of 10 years of isolation under the former leader, Slobodan Milosevic. On his way home after meeting with President Bush in Slovenia on Saturday, Mr. Putin touched down briefly in Kosovo today to visit Russian peacekeeping troops at their base at Pristina airport and meet United Nations officials. Despite their common Slav and Orthodox heritage, relations between the former Russian President Boris N. Yeltsin and Mr. Milosevic were not warm, and no Russian president has visited Yugoslavia since Mikhail S. Gorbachev did in 1988. Mr. Putin said he agreed with Mr. Kostunica that the international community should do more to fulfill the United Nations resolution that regulates Kosovo and has made it a United Nations protectorate since NATO's war with Yugoslavia in 1999. We must do everything for the disarmament of the terrorists, he said, speaking of his concern for attacks against the dwindling Serbian community in Kosovo. I think that the international community's attitude is sobering somewhat in that regard, particularly with tragic and sad events in Macedonia, he said. Some 3,000 Russian troops are serving in Kosovo as part of the 38,000-member peacekeeping force led by NATO in Kosovo. Mr. Kostunica repeated his now familiar criticism of the United Nations mission in Kosovo. The crisis in Kosovo, and many wrong moves by the international community in Kosovo have caused instability in the entire region in southern Serbia, Macedonia and lately even in northern Greece, where ethnic Albanian terrorists have also made their presence felt, he said. He was referring to Yugoslav news media reports of activity by ethnic Albanians in northern Greece, which have not been independently confirmed. Mr. Kostunica said he and Mr. Putin had also discussed holding a conference on the Balkans that would put an end to the trend of redrawing borders in the Balkans and wars in the region. Mr. Putin flew on to Pristina on Sunday afternoon, to view Russian peacekeeping troops serving in both Kosovo and Bosnia and Herzegovina, and to meet with the NATO commander of peacekeeping troops. His trip was kept unannounced for security reasons. Russia is seen as an ally of Serbia by most Albanians, and Russian troops have come under attack in Kosovo. Developments in Macedonia are unfolding according to an extremely difficult scenario, he said in an address to Russian troops. The country's leadership is under strong pressure to satisfy the demands of extremists to the maximum. The Kosovo option is in fact being repeated. We know what it leads to. He said that the borders should be tightly sealed to prevent movement of men and weapons and that the rebels' access to international funds should be blocked. Macedonian leaders have failed to forge an agreement on political reforms to answer the grievances of the Albanian minority after three days of closed negotiations. Talks were set to resume Monday while a shaky cease-fire was still in force. Mr. Putin also criticized the United Nations' new framework for self- rule in Kosovo, drawn up by Hans Haekkerup, the head of the United Nations mission in Kosovo. The framework was too like a constitution and did not emphasize strongly enough that Kosovo remained a sovereign and territorial part of Yugoslavia, he said. Too many concessions have been made to radicals, he said. The document has a number of significant drawbacks to which the Russian side has drawn attention. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/18/world/18PUTI.html Miroslav Antic, http://www.antic.org/ STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] Army Can't Explain How Gen. Clark Got Kosovo Campaign Medal Waiver
Army Can't Explain How Gen. Clark Got Kosovo Campaign Medal Waiver European Stars and Stripes June 16, 2001 Army Can't Explain How Gen. Clark Got Kosovo Campaign Medal Waiver By Jon R. Anderson, Stars and Stripes The Army is at a loss to explain who granted a waiver awarding retired Gen. Wesley Clark the Kosovo Campaign Medal. After four months of repeated queries, Army officials say theyre still not sure who approved the medal. Privately, officials say, they believe former Defense Secretary William Cohen approved the award, but have been unable to find the requisite paper trail for such awards to make sure. Cohen was not available for comment Friday. One senior Pentagon official speculated Clark may have been given the medal as a memento or token without actually being awarded the campaign ribbon. The Army says no way. Nowhere in the military do we hand out awards as mementos, said Col. Stephanie Hoehne, Clarks former aide and now a top Army spokeswoman. They are earned and they are awarded. When your boss pins an award on your chest, thats being awarded. Citing how paperwork sometimes gets misplaced or forgotten after verbal approval for an award is given, Hoehne said, Im not surprised it didnt make it into his records, if thats the case. That he needed a waiver at all has been a sticky issue for top officials who have been wrestling for more than a year with how to fix controversial criteria for the medal that has left thousands of troops who directly supported the 1999 air campaign unrecognized. Under rules for the medal established by the Pentagon, only those who served in and around the Balkans are eligible for the decoration. Service members must have served at least 30 consecutive days in the combat zone or 60 non-consecutive days traveling in and out of it. With Clark directing the 78-day air campaign mostly from his headquarters in Mons, Belgium, he and his staff not to mention thousands of troops supporting the effort from bases throughout Europe and the United States were left ineligible. According to European Command officials, Clark clearly did not meet the criteria and they were surprised to learn he had been awarded the medal last year. In fact, Clark received the very first of the newly minted medals during his retirement ceremony June 23, 2000, presided over by Army Chief of Staff Gen. Eric Shinseki. For his part, Clark told Stars and Stripes in February that he had no idea that he had needed a waiver and said that the medal was never meant to be a danger- or location-based award, but a service-based award. STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] SAMO DEKLARATIVNE OSUDE TERORIZMA
Press klub pod nazivom Makedonska kriza i Jugoslavija. Domacin Pres kluba: Milan Milosevic. Ucesnici: Biljana Vankovska sa Filozofskog fakulteta u Skopju, Jovan Teokarevic iz Instituta za evropske studije i Zoran Dragisic sa Fakulteta civilne odbrane. SAMO DEKLARATIVNE OSUDE TERORIZMA Ma koliko stvari izgledale lose, ipak ovaj talas nasilja u Makedoniji mora stati, ali je pitanje kolika ce cena toga biti, rekla je Biljana Vankovska, dodavsi da je naivno verovati da ce spas doci spolja. Po njenom misljenju greske su pravljene na obe strane i sto pre treba sesti za pregovaracki sto, jer se oruzjem ocigledno nista nece resiti. Makedonska desavanja su donekle i posledica desavanja na Kosovu, tacnije lose procene medjunarodne zajednice koja je donekle precutno podrzala teroristicke akcije albanskih terorista. Najbolji nacin pomoci Makedoniji od strane Jugoslavije, nije vojni vec demokratizacija zemlje i stvaranje stabilne politicke klime. Po misljenu Zorana Dragisica najvaznije je trenutno izbeci civilne zrtve. On resenje vidi u davanju vecih manjinskih prava albanskoj zajednici, sto bi izbilo iz ruke jedan od aduta albanskih ekstremista. ikakvo menjanje granica ne dolazi u obzir, jer bi to moglo izazvati dodatnu eskalaciju nasilja. Biljana Vankovska je rekla da medjunarodna zajednica deklarativno osudjuje akcije albanskih terorista, ali da je ta osuda isuvise blaga i da uvek iza podrske stoji ali. Ovo sve podseca na kosovsku situaciju pre NATO intervencije. Ona je dodala da su politicari izgubili kontrolu nad situacijom i da postoji veliki broj parapolicija cije akcije je nemoge obuzdati. Medija centar, Beograd www.yumediacenter.com Miroslav Antic, http://www.antic.org/ STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] Hague indictment a mistake, Milutinovic says
Hague indictment a mistake, Milutinovic says Belgrade (dpa) - Serbian President Milan Milutinovic said Sunday that he is not worried about a possible extradition to the International War Crimes Tribunal, which he said made a mistake when indicting him two years ago over his role in the Kosovo war. The indictment is formalistic and not argued, he said in an interview with Belgrade's BKTV television, adding that he has never heard of villages and names listed in the indictment. I have no fear and feel no guilt because I think it is a mistake, but one cannot jump out if his skin, Milutinovic said. In his words, If somebody else had been president of Serbia at the time, he would have also been indicted. Milutinovic is the only member of the deposed Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic's regime who is still in office. Three other top officials were indicted alongside Milosevic and Milutinovic. Yugoslavia is under pressure from the West to extradite war crimes suspects and the ruling Democratic Opposition of Serbia (DOS) has signalled willingness to cooperate. But leading DOS officials appear concerned that a bill that would formalize the cooperation with the Hague tribunal might be shot down by their coalition partners from Montenegro, the Socialist People's Party (SNP). Even if the bill fails, though, extraditions would happen, DOS leaders in the Serbian goverment indicated. If the bill fails, DOS will have to take responsibility, becuase politicians cannot hide behind legal procedure Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic said Sunday in Belgrade, after meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin. He denied that he discussed the Hague tribunal with Putin and stressed that he does not know if the bill would be turned into a law. I cannot tell - am not psychic. The chances are half-half and I would not recommend a bet either way, he said after reporters insisted on his estimation of the outcome next Thursday. A day earlier, Serbian Justice Minister Vladan Batic also signalled that war crimes suspects face extradition whether or not the bill passes the parliament. His statement came a day after the find of another mass grave in Serbia, presumably containing bodies of Albanians killed in Kosovo and taken away in an organized campaign to destroy evidence of attrocities. The grave, near a Yugoslav Army (VJ) commando training camp in Petrovo Selo, contains the remains of between 20 and 25 bodies, mostly men. Serbian Interior Minister Dusan Mihajlovic said earlier that an order to security forces to clean up battlefields in Kosovo during the 1998-1999 war aimed to remove evidence of atrocities. He said the investigation traced the sanitation order to a meeting of Milosevic's cabinet. The first grave, with 86 bodies, was discovered near Belgrade last month and exhumation was underway, under observation of the Hague tribunal experts. The tribunal chief prosecutor Carla del Ponte would visit Belgrade on an unspecified day next week, to evaluate the progress Belgrade has made in cooperation with the United Nations' court, established to try war crimes suspects in former Yugoslavia. Miroslav Antic, http://www.antic.org/ STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[SNN] GAYS MOVE TOWARDS POWER. NOT ONLY IN RUSSIA
GAYS MOVE TOWARDS POWER. NOT ONLY IN RUSSIA PRAVDA.Ru has already raised this issue. It appears that the active movement of sexual minorities towards power is taking place not only here in Russia, but also in the remote abroad. In the Brazilian city of San Paolo, a traditional parade of sexual minorities passed off. Well-known Brazilian politicians took part in it. In all, over 200,000 people joined in the 5th annual sexual minority parade. The pageant of homosexuals, Lesbians, bisexuals, and transvestites was crowned with a grandiose concert on the citys central square Prasa Republica. San Paolo prefect Marta Saplisi and vice-chairman of the Workers Party, deputy of the Federal Assembly Jose Jenoino turned up at the parade. It has not been specified in the reports whether the above politicians really belong to sexual minority or just showed up out of pure solidarity. Miroslav Antic, http://www.antic.org/ Serbian News Network - SNN [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antic.org/
[NSP] GAYS MOVE TOWARDS POWER. NOT ONLY IN RUSSIA
GAYS MOVE TOWARDS POWER. NOT ONLY IN RUSSIA PRAVDA.Ru has already raised this issue. It appears that the active movement of sexual minorities towards power is taking place not only here in Russia, but also in the remote abroad. In the Brazilian city of San Paolo, a traditional parade of sexual minorities passed off. Well-known Brazilian politicians took part in it. In all, over 200,000 people joined in the 5th annual sexual minority parade. The pageant of homosexuals, Lesbians, bisexuals, and transvestites was crowned with a grandiose concert on the citys central square Prasa Republica. San Paolo prefect Marta Saplisi and vice-chairman of the Workers Party, deputy of the Federal Assembly Jose Jenoino turned up at the parade. It has not been specified in the reports whether the above politicians really belong to sexual minority or just showed up out of pure solidarity. Miroslav Antic, http://www.antic.org/ STOP NOVOM SVETSKOM PORETKU ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
