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Ronal W. Larson
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:00 PM
To: Discussion of biomass; Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Fuel and Forestry etc.
Crispin and List:
Still in the spirit of having dialog before the ETHOS meeting (starts
tomorrow). I see three items missing from
Dear FrankThe challenge has been to 'bring the outdoors indoors'.It is not impossible to be 'representative' of field use in a lab. What has been missing is a
Crispin and list:
I have again added “stoves” back in. Your following is valuable in the
discourse presumed for the ETHOS meeting.
Re #1: I still think it would be relatively easy to run the tests with a
maximum percentage allocation of time specified by the manufacturer (and
reported).
Hi Crispin,
You are absolutely correct, a value chain and combined discourse
(narrative, meme) analysis is certainly warranted. From my perspective it
is really interesting to learn of the potential implications of 'internal'
debates among stove developers, and how these relate to product
Dear Samer Again
In particular I will be keen to explore more deeply the ramifications for
testing, actual fuel use, and the memes that relate these to problems of
deforestation and health.
In order to complete the description and not leave the circle incomplete, I
will cover also the
Dear Erin,
Thank you for the links provided. I've downloaded the documents and look
forward to reading them.
I can certainly appreciate the sensitivities surrounding the desire to
address what is a pervasive and extremely complex problem, though attempts
to do so often restrict appropriate
Dear Samer
It is my hope that Cecil Cook will wander through here one day because we
spent a great deal of time looking into these problems
In particular I will be keen to explore more deeply the ramifications for
testing, actual fuel use, and the memes that relate these to problems of
Crispin and list
1. Since we are a few days away from the ETHOS meeting, and there will be
some funders there, I hope you can elaborate on this phrase from below:
“…. the major pathologies have been excised …”
2. We have discoursed on your not measuring char production in the
Crispin, I take the liberty of responding to the whole list since 1) you
didn’t ask me not to, 2) you wished you had on the last similar message to me,
3) because the stove list likely mostly wants to hear, and 4) because we both
think the topics are important.
I have added your and my
Pish posh Samer, I have read your paper and I find that it ignores the
substantial contributions of the thinkers from the African Gender Insistute
. The Feminist Africa Issue from 2010 titled Rethinking Gender and
Violence is very good, and I think it would be a good one for you to read:
Dear Erin
What exactly are you objecting to in your first response to Samer's post?
I read the paper carefully and note that you agree on exactly these issues
though Samer does not repeat the block quote because it has been well
covered in other works.
Samer's investigation is into
Samer,
It's hard to explain to you in just how many ways that last email was
offensive to me, both as a stove promoter and someone very concerned about
improving the quality of life for women around the world. But I'm going to
set aside my outrage and tackle some points you raised.
Let's talk
Samer etal
On Jan 18, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Samer Abdelnour samer.abdeln...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ronal and all,
I'm glad you like the research. I'll do my best to clarify your questions
where I can. I see these as revolving around two subjects: charcoal use and
the potential consequences of
Hi Ron,
I do appreciate where you are coming from, and your strong interest in
char. Again, I'm probably not the right person to continue a char-focused
discussion, but it is certainly an area I will look into further. That
said, and if a little humour is permitted on this listserv, I'm pleased
Samer and ist - See below:
On Jan 18, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Samer Abdelnour samer.abdeln...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ron,
I do appreciate where you are coming from, and your strong interest in char.
Again, I'm probably not the right person to continue a char-focused
discussion, but it is
Samer and list
1. The more of your papers you cite, the more I recognize that you have had
quite a long and active association with stove design and use. I wish there
were more people doing what you have done. Thank you for these efforts.
2.But you have not commented at all on any of
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