Re: [Stoves] Powering stove fans with thermoelectricity

2012-04-29 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Graham and Stovers, If you are interested in driving small fans or blowers using thermal power, look at the video link sent by Graham Knight of the UK. It is not his video, but he seeks similar results. Read the posted comments under the video, and see another video linked from there.

[Stoves] Drying of fuels adjacent to stove

2012-06-06 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, I edited Richard Stanley's message below to focus on fuel drying. I think the idea is great!!! And it can be expanded to be small wire baskets that can hang on the sides or other means to keep the fuel close to the warm sides of the stoves. Many of the current configurations of

[Stoves] TLUD coal stove in UB Re: Engineering view

2012-06-25 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin, Please send info or a link to info about the TLUD coal stove in UB. Technical info as well as general description would be appreciated. And what is its cost or market price? Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone:

Re: [Stoves] Pot size influences performance

2012-06-27 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin, Interesting. Points out the need to study more about high heat vs low heat cooking. Large pots with large tops can lose much more heat than small pots with small tops (especially when there is no lid). Paul Paul S.

[Stoves] Biochar and Peko Pe in Zambia

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers and Biochar enthusiasts, See the first two reports at this website about agriculture in Zambia (a Norwegian project). Note the reference to the Peko Pe by Wendelbo as a source of biochar. I thank Graham Knight in the UK for sending the link. Stephen Pearson reports: some V.

[Stoves] Training about Quad TLUD stove Re: [biochar] Re: [Bioreg] Great Permaculture Courses

2012-08-04 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Karin, I will be presenting at the workshop on Labor Day at The Farm in Tennessee. Among other things, we will have in-depth work about biochar production in barrel-size units and also the latest design of the TLUD stove named Quad that makes biochar. I have just released a short

Re: [Stoves] question about char

2012-08-25 Thread Paul Anderson
Frank, Did you send your message to Hugh also? He is not on the Listservs, but you could relay his replies. I am doing fine in Uganda and heading home in a few days. Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 Website:

Re: [Stoves] Powering a TLUD Fan

2012-08-30 Thread Paul Anderson
Phil, Thank you for your excellent comments. I am not an electronics guy, so I will trust in what you say until others might find issues to discuss. How can we proceed? You are in Nicaragua, right? As soon as I have some few units from Paul O., we can do some trials. Paul Paul S.

[Stoves] Stove Camp in Honduras in Sept canceled

2012-08-30 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear all, Because of lack of financial support for a Stove Camp in 2012 at Zamorano University in Honduras, that event has been cancelled. This also means that I am no longer planning to come to Central America in late Sept and October. But I am certainly interested in further TLUD stove

Re: [Stoves] Plastic-powered plane to fly from Sydney to London

2012-08-30 Thread Paul Anderson
Xavier and all, The usage as airplane fuel does not interest me, but the gathering of plastic and making it into something usable as a fuel is very interesting. I am involved with a project in Kampala, Uganda with neighborhood cleanup and making briquettes. But we do not have a use for the

Re: [Stoves] FW: Need designs

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Aron, I do not know the details of such heat transfer through a cone. Perhaps others on the Stove Listserv might help. Best wishes, Doc TLUD Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 Website: www.drtlud.com On 9/13/2012

Re: [Stoves] pot skirt efficiency estimates, scale-up

2012-09-15 Thread Paul Anderson
Josh, From experience, having the heat go through a single pipe/chimney in the center of the water tank is much better than having the heat go around the outside of the steel drum.And it is much less expansive. Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype:

Re: [Stoves] FW: Need designs

2012-09-16 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Erin and all,, Thank you for cultivating the newcomers to consider biochar stoves. Most of us who are heavily involved with gasifier stoves try to have transparency, and try to offer assistance to all who inquire. When appropriate, please provide (or have the newcomers provide) some

Re: [Stoves] Rice husk stoves in Indonesia

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Robert and all, You should be in contact with Paul Olivier who is WELL advanced on rice husk burning stoves and has entered into production in Vietnam. His email address is:Paul Olivier paul.oliv...@esrla.com I am awaiting delivery of some of his first units to have them in North

[Stoves] Misconceptions about TLUD origins and operations-- was Re: biochar rocket stove

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Crispin and all, First, the quote: Designed by Paul Anderson, the top light upward draught (tlud) gasifying cook stove works o This statement can be correct if referring to a specific TLUD stove that I designed, which I think is the case of the author who is quoted. However

Re: [Stoves] Fabricated Burn Barrel TLUDS

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Anderson
Tom and all, Go to www.re-char.comand see the climate kiln that sells for $290 . I know that the design as it is made in Kenya has been changed from what is shown at the website. Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone:

Re: [Stoves] Low cost charcoal gasifiers

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin, No. It is not agreed. YOU need to provide info that discusses the issue, not just telling us to go contact somebody and then use phrases like ...in use (as I understand it) in the UK for a long time before that... To say (as I understand it) is not very convincing. I

[Stoves] 2013 Forum on Clean Cookstoves and Fuels in Cambodia in March

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers and all, In case the message has not reached you, the 2013 Forum on Clean Cookstoves and Fuels will be in Cambodia in March 18-22. This is what would have been the 6th Biennial PCIA Forum. Info at:

Re: [Stoves] Mobile charcoal making kiln

2012-09-29 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin and all,(Christa might want to use these diagrams in the revision of the Micro-Gasification Manual) Thanks for linking us to the report from Georgia Institute of Technology. Dated April 2011. So most of those students are probably graduated by now. I think Marc Pare might

[Stoves] Pellet machines was Re: Fabricated Burn Barrel TLUDS

2012-09-30 Thread Paul Anderson
Rolf, Yes, we would like to know the prices. This Listserv is not for commercial purposes, but you can certainly inform us of the prices here because so many people want to know. And not all want the USA prices. Basic price where manufactured. And I want to know about getting units

Re: [Stoves] Fabricated Burn Barrel TLUDS

2012-09-30 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Kobus and all, Retort: When 50/50 inner and outer amounts of fuel as Kobus has mentioned: the Outer burning XX kg yields zero biochar; Inside retort yields 20 to 30 of XX kg, net of 10 to 15% of total fuel used. (Note: charcoal yields from inside a retort of greater than 25 or

Re: [Stoves] Pellet machines was Re: Fabricated Burn Barrel TLUDS

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Anderson
came to Ecoworxx because I saw what they build and that it suits perfectly my needs. The partnership whith them came later. It is for Spain only. But I believe that many on the list shall find these compact machines extremely versatile and usefull. Rolf Am 30.09.2012 15:55, schrieb Paul

Re: [Stoves] Fabricated Burn Barrel TLUDS

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Anderson
Kobus, That is great work. Very interesting. I do not join so many specialty groups, even when interested. I much prefer that the discussions are open to all via main Listservs such as Stoves. I hope you will prepare something that could go onto the Stoves and/or Biochar and/or DrTLUD

[Stoves] Institutional El Salvador stove Re: see this youtube link ( INTITUTIONAL PROTOTIPE)

2012-10-10 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Gus / Gustavo, Yes, I could see the video this time. Informative. Comments: 1. Of course I will say that the same upper structure of the institutional stove would also work with a moderate size TLUD underneath. 2. I would like to see the inside of the large black outer cylinder.

[Stoves] How to convert thermal efficiency into fuel savings figures

2012-10-10 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Stovers, I do not know how to convert thermal efficiency into fuel savings figures. I hope it Is a linear transformation. 10% TE wastes 90% of fuel, while 40% TE wastes only 60%?But I suspect it is more complicated than that. I hope we hear soon from the number-crunchers and

Re: [Stoves] How to convert thermal efficiency into fuel savings figures

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Anderson
-page explanation plus table plus formula? Thanks, Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 Website: www.drtlud.com On 10/11/2012 3:02 AM, ajheg...@gmail.com wrote: [Default] On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:02:41 -0500,Paul Anderson

Re: [Stoves] Stove and Indoor Air Pollution Contacts in Madagascar

2012-10-18 Thread Paul Anderson
Michal, You sent your message to the correct list. And I am sure that you are studying the wealth of information at the stoves website stoves.bioenergylists.org I will assist you with the TLUD gasifiers. See also my website: www.drtlud.com and read the one page about the Mwoto Quad

[Stoves] Very small stoves and reheating food

2012-10-19 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, The need for very small stoves has at least three justifications. And both relate to small fire for small cooking tasks. 1. In the developing societies, are there examples of people who re-heat left-over food? I know of none. The situation relates to the lack of ways to safely

[Stoves] Igniting TLUD stoves (off shoot from Re: Very small stoves and reheating food)

2012-10-20 Thread Paul Anderson
to making these stoves more useable- agree? Thanks Frank . -Original Message- From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-boun...@lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Paul Anderson Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:38 PM To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Hugh McLaughlin; James S. Schoner

Re: [Stoves] Very small stoves and reheating food

2012-10-20 Thread Paul Anderson
while there is something easy to use people should not weist energy unless they think they can come up with something special Gus *From:* Paul Anderson psand...@ilstu.edu *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org; Hugh McLaughlin wastem...@verizon.net; James

Re: [Stoves] Igniting TLUD stoves (off shoot from Re: Very small stoves and reheating food)

2012-10-20 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin Thanks. Having a conical depression is a very nice suggestion that I will certainly try soon. I suspect that it works equally well with other fuels of chip or pellet size. Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone:

[Stoves] Fwd: pre-heting food

2012-10-20 Thread Paul Anderson
Gus sent the message below, but it did not go to the Stoves Listserv. His comments are very appropriate. And check out his YouTube videos!! He also included a PowerPoint attachment, but it is large and I deleted it from this forwarded message.I suggest that he sends it to Tom

[Stoves] Extended use of TLUDs Re: [biochar] Used Tractors ...biochar on homestead

2012-10-21 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Stovers and Biochar-ists, I also am highly impressed by Su Ba's homestead farming and her use of TLUDs in serious daily use. I too await her response to his questions about the TLUD stoves. I also encourage her to send more details about her configuration of multiple TLUDs to

Re: [Stoves] [biochar] Used Tractors ...biochar on homestead

2012-10-21 Thread Paul Anderson
Ed, Thanks for your valuable comments about TLUD usage. I hope others reply with more TLUD stories, so I have added the Stoves Listserv to receive this message and yours below. You added a fan to the other units. Please consider fan assistance in the TLUD indoors. And perhaps an

Re: [Stoves] [biochar] Used Tractors ...biochar on homestead

2012-10-21 Thread Paul Anderson
/chimneyfans.htm Alex On 21/10/2012 4:09 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: Please consider fan assistance in the TLUD indoors. And perhaps an exhaust fan in the hood for those moment of changing the TLUD / refilling.And if you allow for using prepared pellets as fuels, I think you might be able

Re: [Stoves] Very small stoves and reheating food

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin and all, Please correct or confirm my impressions that charcoal would not be very good for a short 5 to 10 minute heating job. Charcoal is relatively slow to start. (But it could be fine for food warming or tea during a night-guard's many hours in the cool/cold of the night).

Re: [Stoves] Very small stoves and reheating food

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Anderson
saves enough to pay for itself. There is a general rule about high carbon fuels which is that they need draft to get going as the Hydrogen found in biomass is not available (easy, high heat). Regards Crispin *From: * Paul

Re: [Stoves] Very small stoves and reheating food

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Anderson
Richard, It is the words feed ... continuously fuel that is a problem. The pellet stoves (heaters) are acceptable and successful because the continuous feeding of fuel is automated. No such luxury with inexpensive stoves for economically poor people. Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr

Re: [Stoves] Very small stoves and reheating food

2012-10-23 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin and Alex and all, Successful dribble or trickle feeding at very low cost will be a great addition to small stove technology. Of course gravity is the least expensive. But assisted gravity might be relatively low cost. I am thinking of a small tapper or vibrator that can be set

Re: [Stoves] Extended use of TLUDs Re: [biochar] Used Tractors ...biochar on homestead

2012-10-23 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Mik, Dolf, and all, G'Day!!Great to have this input from the Aussies.Glad to see the efforts there. the Stumpy is great in many ways, and will stimulate others, I am sure. James and I will be arranging to have the document available also via thedrtlud.com website (where

[Stoves] Continuous feed of fuel -- Re: Very small stoves ...

2012-10-23 Thread Paul Anderson
*From: * Paul Anderson psand...@ilstu.edu *Date: *Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:29:01 -0500 *To: *Discussion of biomass cooking stovesstoves@lists.bioenergylists.org *Cc: *Crispin Pemberton-Pigottcrispinpig...@gmail.com; Hugh McLaughlinwastem...@verizon.net *Subject: *Re: [Stoves] Very

[Stoves] Mwoto Quad TLUD test results

2012-10-23 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, I am making available to everyone the WBT test results of the Quad TLUD gasifier stoves that are being produced in Uganda by a new company called Awamu Biomass Energy Ltd (ABE).Awamu means together in the Lugandan language and is a continuation of the Juntos (together in

Re: [Stoves] Why TLUDs are not mass produced

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Anderson
. Some of you might have already read from Paul Anderson that we are setting up a factory in Uganda which is basically producing parts of the Quad TLUD stove. The parts can easily be transported to another location where they can be assembled (another job created there). With a couple of young people

Re: [Stoves] Plans and actions Re: Fabricated Burn Barrel TLUDS

2012-10-30 Thread Paul Anderson
in it. If you learn something in the process, please send some feedback to the group. Tak, Richard Stanley www.legacyfound.org On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Paul Anderson wrote: Nolbert and Richard, That is all correct in your message. In summary, Richard, can you assist us with making briquettes

Re: [Stoves] Heat / cook stove - proposed design

2012-10-30 Thread Paul Anderson
Richard, Please explain. or a drawing/photo. Is this for drying briquettes? Basically, as long as the additions do not conflict with the combustion aspects, the stove STRUCTURE can be almost any way you desire, and for an appropriate change in cost. Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr

[Stoves] Gasifier stove grant (and semi-gasifiers)

2012-10-30 Thread Paul Anderson
-452-7072 Website: www.drtlud.com Original Message Subject:Re: you and Hugh and biochar Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:23:21 -0600 From: John Field john.l.fi...@gmail.com To: Paul Anderson psand...@ilstu.edu CC: Hugh McLaughlin wastem...@verizon.net However

Re: [Stoves] Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Ronal and Prof. Nurhuda, I too await the answers to Ron's questions. And add a comment about what Ron wrote: you appear to be pre-heating both primary and secondary air - can you attribute any performance improvement to that? (I know of no-one else doing both) I cannot think of anyone

[Stoves] Six Phase I priority countries of GACC

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, Please point me (and others) to the named six Phase I priority countries of the GACC.Ghana and Kenya are two of them. When I searched internally at the GACC website (upper right in the banner), I did not get that information. Also, can we assume that the GACC has one or more

[Stoves] Heat from combustion of TLUD gases with char remaining

2012-11-04 Thread Paul Anderson
gram is 9.35/0.8 = 11.69 MK/kg or 11.69 Joules per gram. Do you agree with this approach? Paul Anderson inserts: I like the approach. But at best we are dealing with 2 digit accuracy. And it is easier to remember 11 to 12 MJ/kg = the pyrolytic heat from TLUD making biochar. Crispin

Re: [Stoves] Fwd: Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove

2012-11-05 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear M. Nurhuda, Thank you for the info. Many of us are curious about your workshop to produce such nice items. Questions include the equipment, personnel, and production capacity. With appreciation, Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud

Re: [Stoves] Yuri's latest charcoal reactor?

2012-11-08 Thread Paul Anderson
I do not see anything. Black screen and strange music. Suggestions on how to see it? Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 Website: www.drtlud.com On 11/8/2012 2:48 AM, Paal Wendelbo wrote: Dear Crispin No, it is

Re: [Stoves] Why biomass cook stoves are very expensive?

2012-11-08 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Stovers, I find the report by the Differ Group to be very well expressed and logical. Thank you Andrew for plucking it out of the mass of non-member messages. We get quite a lot of posts to the list from non members and normally they get discarded but I got the link below from one, not

[Stoves] Gas-bottle TLUDs Re: Wood gas cook stoves

2012-11-08 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear David and to all Stovers, I received the message below from David Bramham dgbram...@optusnet.com.au in Australia. I am bringing his question to the right list, and I hope that David will join the list. Meanwhile, any replies should also include David's personal email address. We

Re: [Stoves] Cost of stoves

2012-11-09 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear David and Crispin, And where the wages are less than $100 per month (and some of that money is for a reasonable meal during the work day), the labor component is almost negligible compared to the costs of new (not scrap) sheet metal. When the stove is ceramic/fired clay, the clay can be

Re: [Stoves] Cost of stoves

2012-11-10 Thread Paul Anderson
, and less metal (which is the major cost). (Full transparency: Awamu is owned by Nolbert Muhumuza and Paul Anderson, and they are looking for others to join them. Awamu means together in the Lugandan language.) 2. Paal Wendelbo and his associates have Peko Pe models (mainly in Zambia, I believe

Re: [Stoves] Cost of Stoves

2012-11-11 Thread Paul Anderson
: www.drtlud.com On 11/11/2012 1:16 AM, Philip Lloyd wrote: On 11/09/2012 08:52 AM, Paul Anderson wrote: Dear David and Crispin, And where the wages are less than $100 per month (and some of that money is for a reasonable meal during the work day), the labor component is almost negligible compared

Re: [Stoves] Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove

2012-11-11 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin and all, I think that the char being created in a TLUD is not hot enough to cause the water gas reaction. Also, there is no net increase in energy. The water gas reaction just takes energy from the reacting carbon plus water and puts it (saves it) into the desirable gases (H2,

[Stoves] Fwd: Coming Soon: Clean Cooking Forum Registration

2012-11-19 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, If you are not on the mailing list(s) of the Global Alliance (GACC), you probably did not see this message. If this Forum and other GACC topics are important to you, you need to either Register (in general) to receive notifications OR Become a Partner (which is a higher level of

[Stoves] Patio Heater Conversion was Re: [biochar] TLUD fired BBQs pizza oven

2012-11-20 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Erich and Hans and all,and jss Use of a TLUD for a patio heater is very interesting, and raises many questions. I hope that this new thread /Subject can stick to this topic and that ... 1. GOAL:collectively we can devise a practical patio heater product with a TLUD as the

Re: [Stoves] stove-acceptance of char-making [TLUD] stoves.

2012-12-03 Thread Paul Anderson
when I manage to get time to write it. Regards Stephen Joseph On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Paul Anderson psand...@ilstu.edu mailto:psand...@ilstu.edu wrote: Dear Stovers, On 11/30/2012 2:06 PM, rongretlar...@comcast.net mailto:rongretlar...@comcast.net wrote: *[RWL4b': snip

Re: [Stoves] stove-acceptance of char-making [TLUD] stoves.

2012-12-03 Thread Paul Anderson
scholarship application process is also open right now. Please note you must be a member of the Alliance to apply. *From:*Stoves [mailto:stoves-boun...@lists.bioenergylists.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Anderson *Sent:* Monday, December 03, 2012 9:07 AM *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves *Cc

Re: [Stoves] Equipment required for testing stoves

2012-12-04 Thread Paul Anderson
Frank, Crispin and all, For Frank's needs in testing labs in affluent countries, the suggested methods could include the following (combining thoughts from several contributors): 1. Dry Ice (solid CO2), Can be weighed if the CO2 is an issue. Worth a try, but watch out for the

Re: [Stoves] Looking for suggestions regarding reputable research partners in East Africa

2012-12-04 Thread Paul Anderson
Kim and all, I and my company Awamu Biomass Energy Ltd in Uganda could possibly be of assistance if your researches wanted access to data and to stove users of TLUD micro-gasifier stoves and fuel sources. But we are not in a position to conduct the research. I suspect that such a

Re: [Stoves] FW: ETHOS 2013: Where is the New Data on Stove Performance in the Field?

2012-12-07 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Crispin and all, (to be posted also atwww.drtlud.com ) I have been reading the previous messages, and now offer some comments: 1. The FULL data from the Quad 2 tests were provided to stimulate discussions, and I am delighted that Crispin and some others are digging into it as

Re: [Stoves] FW: ETHOS 2013: Where is the New Data on Stove Performance in the Field?

2012-12-08 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin and all, With the exception of one point and one wording, I can agree with Crispin's comments and I hope others also find these observations and dialogues helpful. One wording problem: Paul wrote: Just please do not have testing that poisons the waterhole for those who are

[Stoves] Defining the last mile

2012-12-08 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Stovers, I think you are aware of the USAID Winrock message about the Expression of Interest (EOI) about grants for stove work in Kenya, mainly on distribution issues, not on production. They ask for comments to be submitted by January 11, 2013 to kgr...@winrock.org (I only saved the

Re: [Stoves] Test of Gasfier-stoves (FD and ND) and results.

2012-12-08 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Otto and all, I hope that Philips will release the results. And many others should also. The paid for the tests to be done and the data are theirs to release. Please write to tell me (all of us) how we can get other stoves included in your 2013 testing. And feel free to comment on

[Stoves] Simithsonian article Re: Test of Gasfier-stoves (FD and ND) and results.

2012-12-08 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Otto and all stovers. Otto's message reminded me of something in that stoves article in the Simthsonian. Did you notice that the comments jumped from rocket stoves with some emissions limitations to stoves with fans?The authors (and probably many others) simply jumped past the

[Stoves] TLUD-ND Test results by Jim Jetter was Re: FW: ETHOS 2013: Where is t

2012-12-08 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Dean and all, Your message said: Did you see that a TLUD, natural draft by the way, did best in Jim Jetter's recent tests? What tests are you calling recent? Jim is into his third or fourth set of stoves? The recently published paper is actually of data show to Stovers at the Lima

Re: [Stoves] Abstract submission for 2013 clean stove forum in Cambodia

2012-12-19 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear M.N., We know that leaders in the GACC and the Forum read this Listserv, so consider that your message has been received by them. From my past experiences with 3 Fora, making a presentation is not the same as at academic conferences. GACC will be very selective. They want messages to

[Stoves] Cookstove Smoke is “Largest Environmental Threat,” Global Health Study Finds – The Great Energy Challenge

2012-12-20 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, The article is interesting. http://www.greatenergychallengeblog.com/2012/12/13/cookstove-smoke-is-largest-environmental-threat-global-health-study-finds/ But the new NSF report Global Burden of Disease is probably more so. How can we access the cited report at

Re: [Stoves] Stove ID please - 2-pot stoves - testing needed

2012-12-30 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin and all, The Prakti 2-pot unit should be directly compared with the 2-pot unit from Envirofit. http://www.envirofit.org/products/?sub=cookstovespid=5(to see a photo). Double-Pot Attachment Features * The Double pot accessory with chimney is the perfect add-on for

Re: [Stoves] Stove ID please - 2-pot stoves - testing needed

2012-12-31 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin and Dale and all, The topic is the 2-pot stove structure (from two commercial suppliers and for other sources). And NOT the heat creation unit (which may or may not be built into the 2-pot stove structure). For clarification of this, lets be sure that Dale's wood-fire simulator

Re: [Stoves] Stove ID please

2012-12-31 Thread Paul Anderson
Gustavo, Please sent the sketchup attachment as a .jpg or other file format, not as.skp I look forward to seeing it. Paul Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 Website: www.drtlud.com On 12/31/2012 4:50 PM, Inversiones

[Stoves] Simple change to the WBT Re: Thermometers for WBT

2013-01-07 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear all, I appreciate and understand Crispin's comments. First a question, and then a reply. Question: Does this make any difference? I think it does. I have conducted enough WBT with the waiting for the final degree (local boiling point) to be reached to know that there there can be

[Stoves] Schedule of Dr TLUD Jan to Apr 2013

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Friends, Below is the short summary of my plans for the first third of 2013. If I am traveling close to you, let me know and we might be able to get together. This schedule will also be seen soon at my www.drtlud.com website. * Schedule for Dr TLUD (Paul Anderson

Re: [Stoves] Jatropha fruit as fuel? - and possible action

2013-01-20 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, Excellent discussion. Jon's message below puts it into perspective. I oversimplify what Crispin has said in the past: There are no bad fuels, just bad stoves. (Exaggeration has its impact!! Basically, I agree with Crispin.) And Paal Wendelbo always says: Start with the fuel.

Re: [Stoves] TLUDs at ETHOS Re: Jatropha fruit as fuel? - and possible action

2013-01-20 Thread Paul Anderson
Dean, I look forward to hearing your results. Let's hope that your session does not get scheduled for the same time as mine. But such problems happen. We can discuss options on having camps. Sounds interesting. Be sure to bring some numbers about the costs and all that stuff.

Re: [Stoves] Need help in designing a small refrigerator for rural huts.

2013-01-20 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Anil, On 1/17/2013 10:19 PM, nari phaltan wrote: We would like to explore the possibility of using the heat of lanstove (1500 W, flue gas temperature ~ 350degrees Celsius) to also run a batchwise absorption refrigerator unit which can cool a box of 1.5' X 1.5' X 1.5' to about 10^0 C

[Stoves] Example of missed opportunities was Re: is this new?

2013-01-21 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin and all, Good comments by Alex and Marc and Crispin are below about air flows in TLUDs. All should note that Paal Wendelbo's Peko Pe TLUD has had some side-holes in the fuel chamber wall for 2 decades. Not as much early secondary air as Crispin's Vesto. And Paul Wever has them in

[Stoves] Agenda of GACC Forum is on line

2013-01-21 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, In case it slipped past you, the agenda of the GACC Forum in Cambodia in March is now on line at the Home page of the Global Alliance. http://www.cleancookstoves.org/ Look for the box that says:Clean Cooking 2013 Agenda 0r see it specifically at:

[Stoves] Venting Re: Example of missed opportunities was Re: is this new?

2013-01-22 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Crispin, and I hope a few others will read this, First, I improperly said solid-fuel instead of biomass-fuel, so you had a basis to launch into a discussion based on coal as a stove fuel. With coal being a fossil fuel, I was quite happy to have left it out. I will be more careful next

[Stoves] Anthropological approach was Re: Example of missed opportunities was Re: is this new?

2013-01-23 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Cecil and all, I have known of you and your fine efforts for many years via Crispin. In your messaged you provided an excellent example of anthropological methods. Highly valid. Understand the people and their needs. Classical Anthropology as an academic discipline attempts to NOT

Re: [Stoves] Jatropha fruit as fuel?

2013-01-24 Thread Paul Anderson
Bjarne, Congratulations on your Jiko Bomba Because you have placed the pictures on the Listserv, I assume you will not object if I show them at the ETHOS meeting as part of my presentation about the past year's progress with micro-gasification. There will be full recognition of you.

Re: [Stoves] Jatropha fruit as fuel?

2013-01-25 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Bjarne, I think you have not told us the duration of the operation of the gasifier stove with your pellets (or I missed it in the messages). Please tell us that. And what is the depth of the pile of pellets in the stove? Depth often relates closely to length of burn time. Paul

[Stoves] At what temperature are the bad gases from zinc created, vs harmless zinc oxide?

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, Galvanized metal in stoves gets mentioned occasionally. Do we have a clear answer about what is the temperature at which the zinc makes poisonous gases (such as when welding) versus making zinc oxide (the white stuff that you can by in a tube to put on your nose to prevent

[Stoves] Looking for TLUD-experienced people in Texas, (near Houston?)

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, To help out a friend in the Houston, Texas area, I am seeking contact with people with TLUD experience near there. I am trying to remember the name of the Stover who does so much cooking with TLUDs he has made. (Sorry, I cannot remember.) Please reply to me Off List. Paul --

Re: [Stoves] At what temperature are the bad gases from zinc created, vs harmless zinc oxide?

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Anderson
*From:* Paul Anderson psand...@ilstu.edu *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org *Sent:* Friday, February 1, 2013 2:38 PM *Subject:* At what temperature are the bad gases from zinc created, vs harmless zinc

Re: [Stoves] Characteristics of biochar was Re: [biochar] grassifier cedar chip char

2013-02-05 Thread Paul Anderson
Crispin, The influence of the coal industry on the testing is not a perfect match for what biomass gasification is all about and the testing of biomass and biochar. Biomass can be 50% carbon, but with decay it will all go to CO2. Fixed carbon

Re: [Stoves] Characteristics of biochar was Re: [biochar] grassifier cedar chip char

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Anderson
Tom and all, (I addedBiochar listserv because it is as much or more their topic than it is for Stoves.) On 2/9/2013 7:29 PM, Tom Miles wrote: Alex, I haven't seen any complete TLUD char analyses. The Glaser groups seems to be making their gasification char in the Pyreg gasifier.

[Stoves] Destroying combustion chambers after TLUD pyrolysis ends Re: Need experts advise on combustion chamber

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Anderson
. Sincerely, Dr TLUD Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 Website: www.drtlud.com On 2/10/2013 1:14 AM, Friend wrote: Dear Dr Paul Anderson, Thankyou for your reply. I am from (developing country). i am doing RD

[Stoves] Grant to Burn Lab or Burn Manufacturing??

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, Anyone have info or a link about a large grant ($4 million) to Burn Lab or Burn Manufacturing? Paul -- Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka Dr TLUD Email: psand...@ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 Website: www.drtlud.com ___

[Stoves] Fwd: Less than a month away - the Clean Cooking Forum 2013!

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, I did not see a copy of this message come via the Stove Listserv, so I am forwarding it to all. The full "agenda with speakers" (link) will inform much about how the GACC is approaching the stove issues worldwide. Paul Paul S. Anderson,

Re: [Stoves] combustion of char -- spontaneous and dangerous

2013-02-23 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Stovers AND to all who make biochar or TLUDs with char-saving. The two messages below are very important. And they lead to asking this question: When the quantities of char production are small, such as from a domestic-size TLUD stove, or from a biochar barrel (as with RE:Char), does

Re: [Stoves] Concentrators in ND TLUDs

2013-02-23 Thread Paul Anderson
Bob and all, ( I am sending to the Stoves Listserv because the discussion merits a wider audience. Please read Bob's message first (below my comments.) Paul writes: I like your analysis of the options. And there are additional variations such as fins or mixers that could increase the

Re: [Stoves] Concentrators in ND TLUDs

2013-02-24 Thread Paul Anderson
Martin, It is a what works best approach. There is substantial leeway, but limits. With a 6 or 7 inch fuel cylinder, the concentrator hole is normally 3 inches. 2.5 to 3.5 seems fine. But 2 or 4 inch diameters do not work well. As with so many TLUD topics, there are great

[Stoves] Stove testing worldwide (and NOT about procedures/protocols)

2013-03-09 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Stovers, especially to the GACC leaders and Testing Centers, (Sorry if my message is long, but if it is not important enough for you to read it, you probably are not so serious about stove testing.) Ranyee, please forward this to the directors of all the Testing Centers. As we

[Stoves] Major study of LARGE TLUDs in Cambodia for charbriquetting and fuel drying

2013-03-16 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear all, Go to www.drtlud.com for access to a major new report with 3 Parts. GERES Cambodia has shared with Dr TLUD a series of three technical reports which address their applied research and development on TLUD technology for charbriquette production in Cambodia. All three reports below

Re: [Stoves] Chimney Project in Madagascar

2013-03-23 Thread Paul Anderson
Dear Michal,(and Stovers) I am sending this reply and your message (below) to the 500+ readers of the Stoves Listserv. Any replies from them need to be sent to you also at Michal Usowicz usow...@mail.usf.edu because you are not subscribed to the Stoves Listserv. About chimneys,

[Stoves] Stove info: Useful GIZ-HERA document

2013-03-25 Thread Paul Anderson
Stovers, At the GACC Forum we found out about MANY things that somehow do not come to our attention on the Stoves Listserv . But it has been announced (26 Jan 2012 yes, 2012) on the Stoves website, but I and perhaps others have missed it. There is a MAJOR item about stoves written and

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