RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

-Original Message- From: Jason Rosenblum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] how do you people live without the refactoring tools provided by IDEs like Eclipse and IntelliJ? We type fast. :-) No, but seriously: I'm stupid enough that if I don't do the refactoring myself, laborious line by

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 06:55:01AM -0500, Nelson, Laird wrote: -Original Message- From: Jason Rosenblum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] how do you people live without the refactoring tools provided by IDEs like Eclipse and IntelliJ? We type fast. :-) No, but seriously: I'm stupid

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

LOL - which is one reason why I prefer Emacs :-) ... that, and, for the astute observer, Emacs shows you how to *exit* as soon as you start it (assuming you open it with no arguments)!! If there's one thing I dispise, it's getting trapped in a )@(#%* program - and, yes, when I was first

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

I like vi now that I know how to use it but why couldn't they put common commands at the bottom of the screen for us mortals? David From: Eddie Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on windows) both of them are fairly easily used through their toolbars ... at least, I think vim has one now (or can perhaps - nearly certain). I suppose that's

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:01 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on windows) both of them are fairly easily used

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

-Original Message- From: Phase Web and Multimedia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Wow, are guys geezers? vi!? emacs!? I just use my ssh secure shell by ssh.com and use the file browser to locate the file and edit it locally then when i click save it conveniently loads it back on the

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

Normally a reader only in this list, but here are 2 cents... With a basic knowledge of Emacs, Ant, and Perl you can conquer the world faster than with any IDE I know of. And conquer it from pretty much any shell - bash, X, even Windows! Plus, Emacs is great for cleaning up messy code. Its

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

Here, here! \C-c SPC Esc- \M-x indent-regionEnter I'm reminded of being a lab assistant when I was still in school. Kids that were taking programming 1 for their foreign language credits would constantly as Why is this doing that? type of questions -- *many* of which could have been easily

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

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RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

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Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

how do you people live without the refactoring tools provided by IDEs like Eclipse and IntelliJ? ~Jason --- Eddie Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on windows)

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Eddie Bush wrote: I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on windows) both of them are fairly easily used through their toolbars ... at least, I think vim has one now (or can

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

Many years ago, it took me about five minutes after starting to use Emacs with a PC keyboard that I had to get the Ctrl and CapsLock keys switched. It's much easier once you get that done. -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Eddie

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

: Eddie Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:43:35 -0600 LOL - which is one reason why I prefer Emacs :-) ... that, and, for the astute

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

If you are not using vim, you don't know vi. At 01:00 PM 12/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on windows) both of them are fairly easily used through their toolbars ... at

RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

://www.phase.ws -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:01 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs. 'Course nowadays