RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-12 Thread Galbreath, Mark
Not me, but I acted like I was 10 many times -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 1:07 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects Reading through some of the postings it seems that 10

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-12 Thread Andrew Hill
and still do... ;-P -Original Message- From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 20:00 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects Not me, but I acted like I was 10 many times -Original Message

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-12 Thread Galbreath, Mark
I KNEW you or James was going to hammer me with that! I feel like fish! -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:11 AM and still do... ;-P -Original Message- From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Andrew Hill
Ok, so its not Friday, but Im always in the mood for tech-nostalgia... ;-) I remember teaching myself C back in 1990 on my Amiga 2000 (using the Lattice compiler a copy of KR). Laughing at the poor MAC+ users I knew with their clunky one button mice and tiny black white displays. (If I recall

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Mark Kaye
-Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Ah the good ol Amiga. A far more worthy home for the Motorola 68000... Lol, just don't mention the OS or any kind of usability for the Amiga. Because it was dreadful. Also, don't mention that 95% of them were used

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Andrew Hill
- From: Mark Kaye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 20:00 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Ah the good ol Amiga. A far more worthy home for the Motorola

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Galbreath, Mark
Aaahhh, yes...I had a Commie 64 in the mid-80s which I used to teach myself BASIC (remember the cassette I/O?). But the Amiga 2000! Video Toaster or Death!!! And I, too, had (still have!) a copy of KR as my C bible Those were happy days...college, beer, cracking, phreaking, no ANI or

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Galbreath, Mark
To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Ah the good ol Amiga. A far more worthy home for the Motorola 68000... Lol, just don't mention the OS or any kind of usability for the Amiga

Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Brian Hickey
: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:20 AM Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects ohhh now your asking for it! Meet the guru a few too many times did we? hehe Actually the OS was not too bad for the time. Pre

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Kevin A. Smith
: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects More fodder... The Amiga was the first machine and OS to use flat memory addressing. It had the best graphics of its time. As for WebObjects, it is one of the two branches of history that the top (IMHO) Java developers come from. The other is Smalltalk

Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Brian Hickey
And so do I... LISP isn't OO - Original Message - From: Kevin A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects Smalltalk, eh? I think that more than a few of the top

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Mark Kaye
-Original Message- From: Brian Hickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] As for WebObjects, it is one of the two branches of history that the top (IMHO) Java developers come from. The other is Smalltalk. I think it's more likely that you mean Objective C, rather than just WebObjects.

Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread John Owen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:02 AM Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects Ok, so its not Friday, but Im always in the mood for tech-nostalgia... ;-) I remember teaching myself C back in 1990 on my Amiga 2000 (using

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Mark Kaye
-Original Message- From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Maybe I can generate some nostalgia as well : Here we go then! :) Can't go as far back as Apple II but my father bought a Iix which was my first introduction to the Mac. They were _expensive_ back then. My first Mac

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Darren Hill
As far as I can tell its not Friday ... but I do wish it was. -Original Message- From: Mark Kaye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 11, 2002 10:43 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects -Original Message- From: John Owen [mailto

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Chappell, Simon P
- From: Mark Kaye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:43 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects -Original Message- From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Maybe I can generate some nostalgia as well : Here we go

Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread John Owen
Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects -Original Message- From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Maybe I can generate some nostalgia as well : Here we go then! :) Can't go as far back as Apple II but my father bought a Iix which was my first introduction to the Mac

Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Bryan Hilterbrand
of my typing abilities. - Original Message - From: John Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects Maybe I can generate some nostalgia as well : My

Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Eddie Bush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would agree, I am a recent OS X convert (Windows is absolute crap, w2k is digestable.. Linux was my OS of choice, until OS X) Now we just need JDK 1.4 ! I am wondering why the Java Apple team, is so slow at getting a release out. Wow. I can't claim any great

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Mark Kaye
-Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Wow. I can't claim any great experience with Apple in the past (other than games). I know they're quite heavily used in publishing/graphic design, and probably other things I'm unaware of ... but what makes you

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Chappell, Simon P
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:25 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Wow. I can't claim any great experience with Apple in the past (other than

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Mark_StGodard
] To:Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects In my never so humble opinion, i would use an OS X workstation over Linux as a workstation about 10 times out of 10. At this point, I would still use either Linux or OpenBSD for my servers. I

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Schneider, Eric
a lot easier to cope with. e. -Original Message- From: Matthew Lehrian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:41 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects I've been very please with OS X as a Java development

Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Michael Lee
- Original Message - From: Mark Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects -Original Message- From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Maybe I can generate

RE: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects

2002-09-11 Thread Andrew Hill
you can think about the more complex tasks associated with graphics and GUIs and such like... -Original Message- From: Michael Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 01:07 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects My first