Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-22 Thread Vic Cekvenich
can we let the clients push us? I'm serious, dude! I know many unemployed developers right now. -Original Message- From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:59 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-22 Thread Erik Price
have been comoditized! -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:58 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? I'm serious, dude! I know many unemployed developers right now

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-22 Thread Sandeep Takhar
, 2003 2:58 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? I'm serious, dude! I know many unemployed developers right now. -Original Message- From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:59 PM

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-20 Thread Christopher Fox
2:58 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? I'm serious, dude! I know many unemployed developers right now. -Original Message- From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:59 PM To: 'Struts Users

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Erik Price
Yansheng Lin wrote: To them, Online spreadsheet data-entry is a reasonable request. They don't want to change their ways of practise, what can we do? They are paying us! Darn, life is so hard! Can you embed an applet that replicates spreadsheet functionality into a web page? Erik

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Mike Jasnowski
Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Yansheng Lin wrote: To them, Online spreadsheet data-entry is a reasonable request. They don't want to change their ways of practise, what can we do? They are paying us! Darn, life is so hard! Can you embed

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Yansheng Lin
they don't understand the difficulties/limitations. -Original Message- From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 18, 2003 10:18 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Yansheng Lin wrote: To them, Online

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread David Graham
--- Yansheng Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To them, Online spreadsheet data-entry is a reasonable request. They don't want to change their ways of practise, what can we do? This implies that they are currently using an online spreadsheet program. Are they, or do they want you to build

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Mark Galbreath
What's the issue? They paying you, aren't they? Be glad to have a job! -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:54 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? --- Yansheng Lin

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Raible, Matt
We had the same requirement from our client - and we actually implemented it! Using JavaScript and the DOM, we're able to add/delete rows, sort by columns, have tabs for different sheets - pretty slick IMO. Of course, it's an intranet app, so we require standards-compliant browsers

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Erik Price
Raible, Matt wrote: We had the same requirement from our client - and we actually implemented it! Using JavaScript and the DOM, we're able to add/delete rows, sort by columns, have tabs for different sheets - pretty slick IMO. That is cool. DOM is unwieldy, but it's an incredibly powerful

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Casey Forbes
We also had to write a web app which includes a spreadsheet-ish interface. The fun starts when they want cells that contain calculations. Welcome to javascript hell :) Casey On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Raible, Matt said: We had the same requirement from our client - and we actually implemented it!

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread David Graham
--- Raible, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had the same requirement from our client - and we actually implemented it! Using JavaScript and the DOM, we're able to add/delete rows, sort by columns, have tabs for different sheets - pretty slick IMO. Of course, it's an intranet app, so we

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Vic Cekvencih
baseBeans did it for a client we already built a MVC Struts app that grew. They wanted Excel to be the GUI as well (so same info in JSP and Excell) Design was PocketSoap (on baseBeans.com cheat sheets) via Excel VBA talking to Struts FormBeans via Axis. Nice to be MVC. They were very happy

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Yansheng Lin
Thanks Mark! You made me feel much better. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 18, 2003 11:11 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? What's the issue? They paying

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Yansheng Lin
- From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 18, 2003 11:29 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Raible, Matt wrote: We had the same requirement from our client - and we actually implemented it! Using JavaScript and the DOM

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Mike Jasnowski
- -Original Message- From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 18, 2003 11:29 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Raible, Matt wrote: We had the same requirement from our client - and we actually implemented

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Jing Zhou
://www.netspread.com - Original Message - From: Yansheng Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:28 AM Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? No, too slow(hope 1.5 will improve the start-up time). Beside we got

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Adam Levine
application. From: Yansheng Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:14:51 -0600 Haha, that's what I did with my table when I

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Mark Galbreath
I'm serious, dude! I know many unemployed developers right now. -Original Message- From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:59 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Thanks Mark! You made me

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Raible, Matt
, July 18, 2003 11:29 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Raible, Matt wrote: We had the same requirement from our client - and we actually implemented it! Using JavaScript and the DOM, we're able to add/delete rows, sort by columns

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Yansheng Lin
of the tremendously confusing collection of their technologies, more people are hired. Bah, endless argument! -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 18, 2003 11:45 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Yansheng Lin
Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? I'm serious, dude! I know many unemployed developers right now. -Original Message- From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:59 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject

RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Mike Jasnowski
SwingSet application. From: Yansheng Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:14:51 -0600 Haha, that's what I did with my table

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Rahul
Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Yeah I know. That's why I have been working to get that app out this week. But again, if we save money by making sane decisions, maybe a lot of our buddies

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread miguel angel rojas aquino
:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Somewhere about 6months ago I saw a demo, danged if I can remember who it was, for software that wrapped around your swing application and delivered it in html. was quite slick, it handled the conversion

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Adam Levine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:08:03 -0500 i guess you are refering to wingS http://wings.mercatis.de/ Mike Jasnowski wrote: I saw that product also, probably at least a year ago. But it's name and a Google search escape

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Kris Schneider
search escape me at the moment. -Original Message- From: Adam Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Somewhere about 6months ago I saw a demo, danged if I can

Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us?

2003-07-18 Thread Adam Hardy
again? JSP: jsp, stands for javaserver page. Javascript: nope, sorry buddy. Object not found - -Original Message- From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 18, 2003 11:29 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? Raible