On 29/12/2003 03:40 Curtis Taylor wrote:
This brings up an interesting point (for me, at least): Is anyone on
this list developing under Linux w/XEmacs or Emacs? I'm curious as to
whether I'm living in the past or not...;-)
You're in good company g. I'm using Linux and Emacs/JDE. That's the nice
This is just marketing propaganda disguised as a technical article.
If you actually make it to the bottom, on the rate this article section,
you will notice that most of the votes are for 1 - very poor, with an
average rating of 3 out of 10.
Seems even those lined up in the MS camp can tell
Quoting Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 29/12/2003 03:40 Curtis Taylor wrote:
This brings up an interesting point (for me, at least): Is anyone on
this list developing under Linux w/XEmacs or Emacs? I'm curious as to
whether I'm living in the past or not...;-)
You're in good company
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Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:57 PM
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Subject: Re: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
Quoting Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 29/12/2003 03:40 Curtis Taylor wrote:
This brings up an interesting point (for me, at least): Is anyone
Quoting Hookom, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As a follow up to your by hand comment, isn't Sun developing a new GUI
development tool to wizard-ize JSF?
Yes: http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/jscreator/index.html
Even if it weren't a product coming from the company I work for :-), this one
'
Subject: RE: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
but still, I'm not dragging and
dropping html form controls (or struts-html.tld taglib controls) to a
designer screen, linking code and compiling.
I believe that various IDEs are beginning to allow this. I saw a demonstration
Frans Thamura, Intercitra wrote:
M$ only support people that want to support money, :)
I like money and profit too, a lot even; profit is good. But the less $
I give to a vendor, the more for me. The more money I save a client by
developing quick and saving them operating costs, the more the
,
-Martin Gainty
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From: Frans Thamura, Intercitra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 12:00 AM
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yah, M$ and Bill is arogan, they never give the fans a space
Hello all,
I've nothing against your debate between .NET vs Java ... but
does this kind of debate really belong in this mailing list?
;o)
Cheers,
Foux
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Subject: Re: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 23:57:08 -0500
I think this article will explain that Microsoft is not support
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
It's kind of a catch .22, I use struts on projects that make money for me.
If someone started taking my projects and replicating them for free, I would
probably have a problem with it :) Although in this case
This brings up an interesting point (for me, at least): Is anyone on
this list developing under Linux w/XEmacs or Emacs? I'm curious as to
whether I'm living in the past or not...;-)
- Curtis Taylor (no relation to Robert...;-)
On Sun, 2003-12-28 at 17:55, Nick Faiz wrote:
but still, I'm not
On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 07:40:34PM -0800, Curtis Taylor wrote:
} This brings up an interesting point (for me, at least): Is anyone on
} this list developing under Linux w/XEmacs or Emacs? I'm curious as to
} whether I'm living in the past or not...;-)
A few of us are still out here. Though it's
I develop with XEmacs on Linux and Windows. You're not living in the
past, you're spreading Light to the Great Unwashed. :)
I use JDE, tempo, speedbar, pl-cvs, etc.
On 2003-40-28 19:12, Curtis Taylor wrote:
This brings up an interesting point (for me, at least): Is anyone on
this list
I think this article will explain that Microsoft is not support Open
Source community, M$ only support people that want to support money, :)
Our War Money Chest is bigger than all of you all the Java guys
(including the Open Source).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] how can M$ have that money?
So, this mean
yah, M$ and Bill is arogan, they never give the fans a space, i think
they hurting us again, if we are using .NET offcourse.
THis case smiliar with mvps.org case, :) never supported by Microsoft,
even they are using Microsoft product.
So, how about you?
Joe Hertz wrote:
It was left handed
It is a complement that Microsoft is worried about the feature set of
struts. However, a lot of the stuff that comes in ASP.NET sounds good
compared to the java equivalents.
Edgar
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From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 6:16
It seems that Microsoft has a growing concern for open
source solutions. Recently, a Microsoft survey
targeted Linux users to find out:
*why Linux users have opted not to use Microsoft, *and
what Microsoft could do to improve their operating
system(s). See:
Just like everyone else.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnaspp/html/aspnet-aspnet-j2ee-struts.asp
This was fun to read, it puts a smile on my face. Somone has a chip on
their sholder.
Great article, Vic. First time there is some Struts-bashing from
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just like everyone else.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnaspp/html/aspnet-aspnet-j2ee-struts.asp
This was fun to read, it puts a smile on my face. Somone has a chip on
their sholder.
Great article,
It was left handed bashing. To paraphrase-
Bill was announcing .NET when Struts was only a glimmer in Craig's eye.
Microsoft is committed to .NET and therefore .NET is Windows. With
Struts/J2EE you are at the mercy of whoever develops the implementation of
the Servlet Container, et al, or
...
sigh/
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From: Joe Hertz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 26 December 2003 14:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
It was left handed bashing. To paraphrase-
Bill was announcing .NET when Struts was only a glimmer
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