On 7/15/07, Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This can and should be handled by the bundle unification system on
activity installation. For now just continue with the data files in your
bundle, the changeover to shared resources should be mostly automatic.
Agreed with Noah: activities
On 10/30/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AFTER we hit the Update.1 freeze on Friday, several things will happen:
* The current joyride build at the end of Friday will become the
Update.1
candidate build.
* New RPMs inserted into ~/public_rpms will _not_ get automatically
inserted
On 11/8/07, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The XO /tmp is **exactly** like a SunOS /tmp. It's in RAM.
Well, one difference: it was common to have only 8 MB.
Since when is SunOS the standard? The FHS has no such wording or requirement:
On Dec 8, 2007 7:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 9, 2007, at 1:18 , Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
So what I'm basically asking is what the exact requirements for the
MANIFEST file are as activities seem to work regardless of what it
contains.
Currently, the
On Dec 8, 2007 7:18 PM, Christoph Derndorfer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel and me are again having another weekend-jam working on the
activity handbook and we've just spent the past half hour looking at
different .xo packages from the git-repository to see how the MANIFEST
file inside the
Incidentally, from my review of the bundlebuilder code, it appears
that one of the reasons why MANIFEST files have been disappearing from
bundles is that bundlebuilder has mechanisms to synthesize the
MANIFEST from the git or svn repo contents. So in most cases, the
developer does not need to
On Dec 15, 2007 10:26 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 15, 2007 3:54 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moreover, I was very confused by the fact that we branched Update.1
from Ship.2 rather than from Joyride, which I still considered our
development
On Dec 22, 2007 9:33 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 09:15:02PM -0500, Marcus Leech wrote:
The activity that I fear the most from the point of view of getting
compromised (that is, remote-code-execution)
is Browse. And our band-aid is to de-isolate it.
On Dec 28, 2007 12:30 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I heard this also from C.Scott. It's not a problem for me
because I can keep developming in my own xtest builds, but
where are the other developers supposed to integrate their
work and make it available for testing?
This
On Jan 31, 2008 10:11 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2 - q2d11 OFW - to fix battery problems
We'll need a q2d12 to fix #6291, or plan for a update.1.1 for
deployments like Mongolia where we need to multicast-update large
groups of machines.
4 - UI fix for registration with the
On Feb 4, 2008 11:50 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/2/4 Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think this is way too much stuff for Update.1. We are in code freeze. We
have items 1 and 2 scheduled to go into RC2; I would suggest that we ONLY
pick up Spanish, where we really
These changes seem appropriate for the 'faster' build (see next
message on devel@).
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2008/3/3 Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I now see that this was never given a ticket, but has been hidden in the HIG
since the early days. I've opened ticket #6634 on the subject, generalizing
it as a way for content providers to tag any bundle as appropriate.
While we're talking about
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Charles Merriam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
New OLPC Process and Rules for Building Activities, Releases, and
Firmware Builds
I. Introduction
It's an exciting time at the OLPC Foundation! In the next few weeks
we will be releasing Update 1 and holding our
2008/4/3 Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. for version threading, what we need for an activity is not a claim like
I am a version of activity ID but My prior version was XXX and the
one before that was YYY. What is the granularity of XXX and YYY? I'd say, a
hash on the
2008/4/4 Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
present it yourself via the dialin number, that would be ideal; otherwise
someone else will present for you (though perhaps not as passionately) and
You haven't been sitting quite close enough to my corner of the office
if you still think that I won't
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For this reason, Sugar needs a wider basis, to run on more Linux platforms
and to run under Windows. We have been engaged in discussions with Microsoft
for several months, to explore a dual boot version of the XO.
Incidentally, this whole topic of getting Sugar to play nicely with
Linux was the *exact* topic of my talk at FISL this year. The slides
can be downloaded from
http://download.laptop.org/content/conf/20080417-fisl08/cscott/ ; I'm
under impression that the actual video will be available at some
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Marcus Leech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd be *very* interested to compare the distribution on a wired network.
It seems to me that given
the broadcast model, everybody should see everybody else in much
shorter time than the 55 seconds
shown in the outlying
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Marcus Leech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was playing in packet-radio circles long before 802.11 was even a
gleam in anyones eye :-)
Yes, my original response above was really meant for others on devel,
since I've found myself trying to explain wired-vs-wireless
On 5/22/08, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To begin with, could we pinpoint _what_ we are looking in such a person?
1.- obsessive openness, not subject to OLPC NDA
I actually want the opposite. You are welcome to have a non-OLPC
community liason, but *I* want someone *employed
On 5/22/08, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marco and I (as well as Dennis and Bernie) had some long chats at the
beginning of this week about how to work together to pull of the next
release. At Marco's request, I've posted one important chunk of this
conversation at
On 5/22/08, Waqas Toor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have changed fullscreen mode of Xephyr into 800x600, but now how to
change the size of frames and icons ?
I have tried changing sugar-xo.gtkrc file but nothing happens, any clues?
2ndly, the activities inside this small screen do not show
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Before we can ship power management, though, we should also fix:
* the SD corruption bug (#6532) -- if we can't fix it in time, we can
inhibit suspend when an SD card is plugged in.
* pushing wakeup decisions to the EC
Since a conversation on IRC got unexpectedly heated, let me restate my
personal philosophy for OLPC's relationships with upstream:
(a) I believe that we should put OLPC's goals *first*, and endeavor to
ensure that we are always meeting the actual needs of our clients,
forking whenever upstream's
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll be presumptuous and speak on behalf of upstream. Sugar
developers are cognizant of the needs of OLPC and will go out of their
way to make sure that the (by far) largest Sugar deployment is
successful. Has this been
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think we're all agreed that even small forks have large long-term
costs, and we'd prefer to avoid them where at all possible -- which we
all
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I spent a couple hours yesterday taking out Gecko from Browse, and
putting in WebKit. Luckily, this was made easy by some PyWebKitGtk
Just repeating in public what I leaned over and told m_stone and cjb:
I'd rather see us
A couple points:
a) SSL overhead being impractical? Come on. You can use SSL on the
browser today; there is no perceptible speed difference. I agree that
client certs may be impractical, but it won't be because the XO can't
handle the computation.
b) Many of the customization issues mooted
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We could add many more of the missing features to Browse if all the
developers weren't so busy with the rest of Sugar. Also, although most
of the sugar developers have occasionally hacked on Browse, we are far
from experts
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we just added a number of extensions to Firefox either in C++ or
JS, could we deliver as much to the kids that want to study and modify
the software on their machines?
Yes. Firefox has a much better integrated IDE for
2008/7/14 Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
There was an extensive discussion on this topic a while back on IRC, which I
unfortunately don't have a record of. There was also mention of this in the
mailing lists not too long ago, initiated by
Morgan:
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They don't get it? Or they don't get how a single integer is supposed to be
sufficient, and therefor use their own methods? Do you have examples of
specific random and bogus strings we can look at to see what's been tried?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure this satisfies me. It might accurately handle the use case of
updating when upgrading, assuming that activity developers are very careful
to add extra info about compatibility into the .info file. It doesn't
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this is still a whole bunch clearer than trying to convince someone
that version 5 is newer than version 10! (where 10 is a bugfix release to
what used to be version 4.)
You're undercutting your own points: what
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read on our wiki that the version number was supposed to be monotonically
increasing. If that were the case, doing as you suggest isn't valid, as I
Who wrote this? Did they mean it to be taken this literally, or just
as
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Version numbers are used to communicate API/ABI compat and degree/type
of changes to users. Later in this thread Eben suggests what everyone
else in the industry is using: major.minor - sounds good to me. Even
better -
2008/7/15 Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you have a better idea of how Glucose should handle these issues, please
share it. Simplifying assumptions are good, even if they're not 100% valid.
Versions in activity.info files are either plain integers, or
RPM-standard version strings,
2008/7/16 Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Two answers:
similar issues. This is going to be handled by the notification system,
which is in its infancy in the upcoming 8.2 release, but should mature and
I hope our alert system will use the freedesktop.org standard:
Lots of reasonable points made on this thread.
The two cents I'd like to throw in are:
$0.01: we shouldn't feel like shipping unsugarized apps is a failure:
better an working app w/ crappy UI than no working app at all!
$0.02: my suggestion to replace Browse wasn't to eliminate the
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:27 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hope our alert system will use the freedesktop.org standard:
http://www.galago-project.org/specs/notification/index.php
It is widely used
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I agree that this is a goal that makes a lot of sense.
Unfortunately, my experience says that the approach you are suggesting
won't be less work than what we are doing right now, because the
software components you
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:27 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
really surprisingly short. Each item on the list has been debated to a
stationary point over the last two years, so all that is left is to make a
final decision for the engineers to execute. Each task could be
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More to the point, I perform a number of actions as part of
installing a new build. Lately, if I forget to first set
'inhibit-idle-suspend', the XO is __suspending__ on me while
performing downloads (via yum) of modules
Please send me sugar logs for any activity update control panel
failures, along with details on what activity it was attempting to
download at the time. Please be sure you are using joyride-2266 or
later, and that you have suspend turned off.
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11 Aug 2008, at 15:13, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
Please send me sugar logs for any activity update control panel
failures, along with details on what activity it was attempting to
download at the time. Please be sure
I moved discussion back to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7480 ,
including citing Morgan's objections quoted above and proposing a
solution.
Does anyone want to implement an email-trac gateway, like debian's
bug tracker has? That would help a lot when discussion veers off into
email.
--scott
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On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A nice gateway would work by filtering emails with some flag in their
subject line, e.g. [TRAC #7480]. Is this how debian's bug tracker does
implements the gateway UI?
rt works like that. Debian's bug tracker uses a new
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
I moved discussion back to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7480 ,
including citing Morgan's objections quoted above and proposing a
solution.
Does anyone
A previous message (can't find it now to respond to it, sorry)
indicated that static docstrings were responsible for a significant
amount of sugar's runtime memory requirements.
The python interpreter's -O -O option specifically addresses this;
it removes docstrings from the running image. This
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:47 AM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 19:08 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
A previous message (can't find it now to respond to it, sorry)
indicated that static docstrings were responsible for a significant
amount of sugar's runtime memory
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody with python knowledge can comment on this? Would have expected
a significantly smaller number of objects in the GC:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar$ python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, May 7 2008,
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3.0 MiB + 277.5 KiB = 3.3
MiB /usr/bin/python2.5/usr/sbin/olpc-update-query--auto-s10
Normal build:
...
3.3 MiB + 333.0 KiB = 3.6 MiB python/usr/bin/sugar-shell-service
-
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scott,
From Robert Myers:
S Page sent me this:
Browse 95 on 8.2-757 was working reasonably well for me. Today I
ran Software update and now Browse version 96 won't start:
AttributeError: 'module' object has
In informal discussions here at 1cc w/ Chris and Michael, they seemed
very pro- anything-which-makes 8.2 significantly faster. I think the
general antagonistic tenor of the thread here so far has made it hard
to see what quick fixes we could do to improve performance without
throwing away journal
I'll just briefly mention http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7685 (patches)
which includes differently-shaped activity rings as well as a
'sunflower' layout I rather like.
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John Gilmore has been pushing us to get our licensing ducks in a row.
The one remaining problem has been activities and content bundles: we
can't legally distribute bundles that don't have a clear statement of
license.
I have added documentation to:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did a first pass on the planning pages for 0.84:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap/0.84#Goals
We are going to have quick, informal meetings in #sugar-meeting at 9am
UTC every morning, to keep
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
String addtions ?? Now ??
Three words: Triangle, Box, and Spiral.
I wonder if a compromise version of the patch might remove all the
words and just use icons for the three different layouts. The words
don't actually
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a bit confused. This is definitely a break in string freeze, and
yet, the patch mentions that string freeze is not affected. Was a
string freeze break approval asked for in this case ?
I think the idea was that
).
Rather than having two separate views for 'hierarchy' and 'journal',
this unifies them so achieve a more consistent and growable
interface: you don't have to discard everything you know and learn a
new metaphor and interface when you start to use 'folders'.
From irc:
(02:18:45 PM) C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marco and I have been discussing on how to make a window manager like
Metacity fit into the Sugar environment, and based on our current
discussions, as well as past discussions, it seems clear that we need
changes to
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah - I'm looking at the way this is done ib Ubuntu, and I think this
can work for us as well. Will we have support for installing extra
RPMs via the customization key in 9.1 ?
Rough notes: (some of this is from
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Hash: SHA1
We are talking about replacing Matchbox with Metacity in the XO build of
Sugar.
Right, I think that's where you're going wrong. You should be
considering replacing
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:43 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, if there's only one window, and it's stretchable, then your
decision is easy.
If it requests a fixed size, then you should probably
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you accept that tags can sometimes be ordered, so that a/b is
different than b/a (although both
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Two) to get at the thing you're looking for. So, again, I'm not
sure that order really matters.
Of course, if it DID really matter for a reason I'm not presently
considering, we could allow tags of the form:
A/B
To
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Metacity was provided just as an example. The issue here is that we
want to replace Matchbox with something which would let us support
normal desktop applications better, ideally without requiring any kind
of
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, any hints would be much appreciated as to what this last
remaining setup.py WARNING is trying to tell me?
WARNING:root:bundle_name deprecated, now comes from activity.info
I've not had much luck tracking
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Douglas Bagnall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we're sticking to activities with valid activity.info files, then
(AFAICT) we're limited to:
Actually, we can only ship activities with valid license= tags in the
activity.info files. I don't think many on your list
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lots of discussion -- but I'm not sure how much benefit the Sugar
*user* might receive.
Some users will want to use gimp. Some will want to use metacity.
To me, supporting multiple windows for one Activity is a much
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, of course, I
wanted to switch sugar to using the standard X activity startup
notification mechanism, and the standard desktop
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The case of b/a being distinct from a/b is necessary. You may call
it a necessary evil, but in any case is is necessary.
Surprisingly, it's not:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Experiments_with_unordered_paths
I still think
IMO, there is no technical reason why we can't support every X
application, no matter how baroque. Window manager technology is as
old as X. Given that we can, we *should*.
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On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sources:
http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.82.3.tar.bz2
News: Fix corrupted network-wireless-060.svg
Can you open a trac bug for this and put it in the 'approve for release' state?
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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C. Scott Ananian wrote:
| A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory
| traversal as well as tag space exploration is in the attached PDF
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scott, I thought you came to the conclusion that there was no use for
ordered tags. What changed your mind? Was it the abilty to browse
hierarchical systems with the Journal? I also thought you came to the
conclusion
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a
light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the Journal
tagging world can ignore it, and users who have know the hierarchical
world can
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
c. scott ananian wrote:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a
light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a little unsure what the Actions, Objects and Labels tabs do however.
They are alternate views, or ways of organizing, the data. The
action/object split is elaborated upon in the posted Journal designs.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
of an issue than resolving incompatibilities between libraries (The
Gimp pulls in all sorts of stuff and Inkscape tries to pull in
incompatible libraries, such as an old version of poppler),
No longer the case.
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 3:47 AM, S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Stone wrote:
I have decided to publish 8.2-765 as a signed Candidate
[...]
sudo olpc-update 8.2-765
led to
WARNING: You seem to be attempting to download an unsigned
[...]
sudo olpc-update candidate-765
is
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm, this is a really tough subject. I guess that we have to guarantee
some kind of backwards compatibility unless we are totally convinced
that we fix something broken. I think we have to discuss concrete cases,
with
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it would be a good idea for everyone (activity authors in
particular) to cross-check the changes in what packages are included
in the new stable release, in particular what packages are *going away*:
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:45 PM, S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BUT! after I disabled my developer key and ran
sudo olpc-update candidate-765
, my XO won't boot:
Trying nand:\boot\runos.zip
OS found - No signature for our key
Boot failed :-(
Hmm, two bugs potentially here:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've installed it on a secured XO with a dev key (that's my usual
machine); I'll have to try turning security off.
I mean, turning the *dev key* off.
--scott
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I encourage those interested in Journal issues to attend my talk @ 1cc
next Wednesday, or to view the video of that talk when it's posted.
Most of the journal issues have straight-forward solutions.
Yesterday, I heard from the IT manager for the city of Key Largo,
Florida; his 60-year old
OLPC needs to work out its priorities and goals for 9.1. Sugarlabs
needs to do the same for 0.84. We should do it together!
I suggest that sugarlabs organize an 0.84 planning meeting, to be held
at the same time/place as OLPC's 9.1 planning meeting in November. My
understanding is that SJ is
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Philippe Clérié [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I notice there's considerable cross posting occuring to the sugar and
devel lists. Perhaps they should be merged?
There's a subset relationship: often sugar stuff is relevant to
general developers, but there's also (say)
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Philippe Clérié [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then I guess I shall have to figure out how to deal with duplicates.
Your reply produced 3 of them. I'm using KMail. If you have tips...
1) install procmail
2) man procmailex
3) search for 'duplicates'
4) ...?
--scott
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It currently looks like the week of November 17 - 21 is our target for our
planning meeting, so as to avoid travel during the (following) US
Thanksgiving holiday week. I concur with Scott's suggestion of having a
sugarlabs
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to clarify: like our mini-conferences in the past, the plan is
to have at least three days full of talks and hacking, so that we all
Are you proposing something like:
17 - 21 Talks and hacking
24 - 25
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:41 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll be giving a demo of some next-generation journal ideas (and code)
at noon Wednesday at OLPC's 1cc offices. I'll make sure to have it
recorded, and you can expect it posted online shortly afterwards (for
all those
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would also like to stop calling this 9.1 planning. We need to plan the
development work we need to get done, regardless of whether that work will
be able to ship next March. At a certain point we will have some of this
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
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| Proposal (off the cuff, please poke holes in this): We might beef up
| the HIG in the area of tagging, and even suggest a set of canonical
| tags for various types of content. (Localized, of course.) Combining
|
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
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I chatted a bit with Eben on how to go forward on the Journal, and we think
it would be good to make it *the* topic for tomorrow design meeting. Are you
able to make it? It's at 11.30 your time, on irc.
There are
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not a fan of lots of little / characters everywhere (fine if a user want
to type them in the unified text search area to look somewhere specific),
but you could show entries that came (or are) outside of the local
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:15 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The slides from my talk are at:
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/journal2;a=blob_plain;f=journal2-talk.odp;hb=HEAD
PDF version
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been working on packaging Sugar for Ubuntu, and have looked forward to
what will be Sugar (and Ubuntu )'s next release cycle.
Per http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap , it seems that the first
release candidate
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