Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] LWN article

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
Yes, a wonderful interview Walter! It's rare that a journalist quotes so much of what an interviewee says; it's a sign that the Sugar Labs education message is unusual and deserves to be heard. A very key point to me is the essential critical thinking issue. In ten years or so there will be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Let me finalize this What tags we should use for GCompris/Fructose/etc discussion :) New AMO version and incoming ASLO v3 version have collections feature https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections I think we can move tags GCompris and Fructose(Core, etc) to collections

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
ultimately, the question is: are there (or not) Activities common to every, or nearly every instance of Sugar? Browse Read Write etc. Sean On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 10 Jun 2009, at 18:24, James Simmons wrote: Martin, I phrased that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:51:24AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: ultimately, the question is: are there (or not) Activities common to every, or nearly every instance of Sugar? This is Fructose: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Taxonomy#Fructose:_The_set_of_demonstration_activities If you keep asking

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] LWN article

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:17:36AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: [Re: ttp://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/336910/3878a88c0c27f977/ ] [...] A very key point to me is the essential critical thinking issue. In ten years or so there will be thousands of young adults who started out with Sugar who will be

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:29:25PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: I meant the code. I really don't have time, but someone could do a benchmark since there is code for Browse-webkit. As rough as it may be. Ahh, I get it now .-) Firefox is still way behind, especially on embedded devices.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
hmmm thanks Martin for that I guess I'm confused because for me, a set of demo Activities is not at all the same thing as baseline Activities included in every Sugar deployment. I mean, to demonstrate online collaboration, I could choose a fancier or more advanced Activity than might be on a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:55:51AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I guess I'm confused because for me, a set of demo Activities is not at all the same thing as baseline Activities included in every Sugar deployment. I agree they're not exactly the same, but I think that's probably because baseline

[Sugar-devel] sugar collaboration session June 10th report

2009-06-11 Thread David Van Assche
Hi, I've published the report for our collaboration session which took place June 10th 2009. Please leave your comments, especially those who took part. http://www.nubae.com/collaboration-session-sugar-june10 thanks, David (nubae) Van Assche ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread David Van Assche
I recommend u take a look at the openSUSE offering. I took a careful look at the activities available and packaged those that seemed useful, relatively bug free, and fun. I think we have about 55 activities now. kind Regards, David (nubae) Van Assche On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:09 PM, James Simmons

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
Bert - many thanks, I understand much better now. We're expecting a traffic peaks at the end of the month with our media push, that's why this work on clarity/simplicity is important. I'm afraid Fructose as a left-hand category on ASLO is obscure, it really should be base or core or base

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
David - do you have a list, or a link to same? thanks Sean On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:57 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend u take a look at the openSUSE offering. I took a careful look at the activities available and packaged those that seemed useful, relatively bug

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Jun 2009, at 08:37, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Let me finalize this What tags we should use for GCompris/Fructose/ etc discussion :) New AMO version and incoming ASLO v3 version have collections feature https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections I think we can move tags

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I actually don't think it's that hard to set a list[...] 27 messages in this thread: http://n2.nabble.com/G1G1v2-Activities-td1096680.html thanks Sean Martin pgpokorRHRZMh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I actually don't think it's that hard to set a list[...] 27 messages in this thread: http://n2.nabble.com/G1G1v2-Activities-td1096680.html 20 comments on this ticket:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fructose activities (was Re: [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion)

2009-06-11 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Bert Freudenberg wrote: Basically calling Fructose demo activities was just a way to chicken out. Nobody wanted to impose a fixed set of activities on anyone, or label non-Fructose activities as less important. All the long-timers still understand that this is the basic set of activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Jun 2009, at 14:10, Sean DALY wrote: Bert - many thanks, I understand much better now. We're expecting a traffic peaks at the end of the month with our media push, that's why this work on clarity/simplicity is important. I'm afraid Fructose as a left-hand category on ASLO is obscure,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 16:22, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 11 Jun 2009, at 14:10, Sean DALY wrote: Bert - many thanks, I understand much better now. We're expecting a traffic peaks at the end of the month with our media push, that's why this work on clarity/simplicity is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
Over 50 responses on this thread :D But we are advancing I think :-) Sean On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I actually

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:01:27PM -0400, Bobby Powers wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Martin Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow

2009-06-11 Thread Steven M. Parrish
+1 for the ring We are on a tight schedule for the SoaS LinuxTag release and following the mega-thread on the subject we have narrowed the choice down to two variants: Progress Bar http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Animation_of_Eben.27s _Above_Design Ring of Dots

[Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread chirag jain
Hi, I proposed for the speech-synthesis in Gsoc 09. My proposal can be viewed at : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/speech-synthesis As a first phase of my development, I have implemented the speech and karoke style coloring of the text. A basic speech configuration manager has also been

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Walter Bender
Maybe Getting Started might be a better name? Just to complicate things, Nubae and I were discussing collaboration on IRC. It is another theme people may be interested in searching. Activities that a whole class can share, e.g., Browse, and activities that are designed as duets. -walter On Thu,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.06.2009, at 15:17, Walter Bender wrote: Maybe Getting Started might be a better name? How about Basics? - Bert - Just to complicate things, Nubae and I were discussing collaboration on IRC. It is another theme people may be interested in searching. Activities that a whole class can

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
I really like Basics... it is concise, and will be reassuring to teachers I think. Sean On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 11.06.2009, at 15:17, Walter Bender wrote: Maybe Getting Started might be a better name? How about Basics? - Bert -

Re: [Sugar-devel] upstream AMO update (ASLO)

2009-06-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
Josh, I've uploaded new AMO to http://activities-devel.sugarlabs.org/ could you update sugar.css For v2 I did something wrong with rebasing from upstream code and had to recreate slo-activities repo. `git pull` won't work in your local git repo so, you'll have to re-`git clone` it On Tue, Jun

Re: [Sugar-devel] upstream AMO update (ASLO)

2009-06-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:29:23PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Josh, I've uploaded new AMO to http://activities-devel.sugarlabs.org/ could you update sugar.css And I think we'll have to restore within box in search bar because new AMO can search only in addons or in collections not in both --

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread James Simmons
Chirag, I won't be able to try out your code for awhile, but I did look at it and noticed that while you refer to it as an activity it is not in fact packaged as an Activity. Even if you intend for this code to wind up being a part of Sugar itself, there is no reason you couldn't make it an

[Sugar-devel] French Help Activity

2009-06-11 Thread LASKE, Lionel (C2S)
Hi all, As you probably know, OLPC France has launch a French FLOSS Manual Sprint until the June 21th. I'm proud to announce that a large part of the work has already be done. More, thanks again to Adam Hyde, we have now a way to print the manual in French using the basic skin

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jainchiragjain1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I proposed for the speech-synthesis in Gsoc 09. My proposal can be viewed at : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/speech-synthesis As a first phase of my development, I have implemented the speech and karoke style

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:46:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jainchiragjain1...@gmail.com wrote: A basic speech configuration manager has also been implemented to alter the volume, pitch and rate of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jonas Smedegaardd...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:46:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jainchiragjain1...@gmail.com wrote: A basic speech configuration

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread James Simmons
Chirag, I still haven't run your code, but I did take a good look at it. I expected it to look quite a bit like the code I and Aleksey Lim came up with for Read Etexts. I was surprised to find that it didn't, but parts of it did look familiar to me because it looks like you're trying an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics Roadmap

2009-06-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 12 Jun 2009, at 00:23, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: Thanks for all the input. I got the icons ready but now I've found some bugs on the new buttons I coded. I would rather fix them before committing but maybe it's better to let everyone see what I'm doing. With this activity, bugs