Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption!

2010-07-29 Thread Gary Martin
On 29 Jul 2010, at 00:21, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: (also filed as http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2132, but let's keep the discussion on the mailing-list, please). Today we figured out one of the possibly many ways in which the index of the datastore can get corrupted in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption!

2010-07-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 15:50 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:39:45AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 15:15 +1000, James Cameron wrote: Ugh. So Write has terminated before data is saved? That's bad. Should it not wait for data to be fully

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption!

2010-07-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 07:19 +0100, Gary Martin wrote: Meanwhile, we're working on a work-around that will hopefully fix all problems of this sort: a Rescan or Reindex item on the Journal palette. Unsurprisingly, a massive -1 from me, but you knew that was coming already! ;) This was

Re: [Sugar-devel] Changing bundle_id and version scheme for Etoys

2010-07-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 00:23 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: There's no reason to have both a filename and a dbus-like name for the same thing. The former must already be unique on both distribution sites and in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption!

2010-07-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 17:26 +1000, James Cameron wrote: How harmless is it? If quite harmless, why can't it be included in the startup of the datastore? Reindexing takes time proportional to the number of objects in the datastore. With a full journal, it can take 30-60 seconds on an XO-1. --

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption!

2010-07-29 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 03:53:56AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 17:26 +1000, James Cameron wrote: How harmless is it? If quite harmless, why can't it be included in the startup of the datastore? Reindexing takes time proportional to the number of objects in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] touchpad section for Sugar Control Panel

2010-07-29 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Paul Fox's message of Wed Jul 28 16:01:22 +0200 2010: sascha wrote:   Even your latest patch still contains code that is specific to OLPC builds and will break on other systems.   Of course

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-datastore component in trac

2010-07-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 10:06 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:13, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: I opened a new ticket (sl#2132) on the sugar-datastore component and it was automatically assigned to tomeu. I would have expected it to go to silbe instead.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption!

2010-07-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 19:15 +1000, James Cameron wrote: Does this block other activity, or can it be done without impact to user operations on the journal? The journal icon does not show up in the frame until the indexing is finished and no journal operations are possible. So, I guess, you

Re: [Sugar-devel] Audacity under Sugar

2010-07-29 Thread Daniel Castelo
In this page you could find a sugarized version of audacity http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/All I dont know if this bundle has all the feature of the last audacity. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Sean Linton s...@lpnz.org wrote: Dear All, I am working on a conference presentation on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption!

2010-07-29 Thread Gary Martin
On 29 Jul 2010, at 15:10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 19:15 +1000, James Cameron wrote: Does this block other activity, or can it be done without impact to user operations on the journal? The journal icon does not show up in the frame until the

[Sugar-devel] Home view activities layout

2010-07-29 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, At the moment Sugar's enabling the freeform and circle layouts, but the code (jarabe/desktop/favoritesview.py) also defines (and then comments out) triangle, box and sunflower layouts. The circle algorithm isn't scaling well as we install more and more activities. Any suggestions on an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Home view activities layout

2010-07-29 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, At the moment Sugar's enabling the freeform and circle layouts, but the code (jarabe/desktop/favoritesview.py) also defines (and then comments out) triangle, box and sunflower layouts.  The circle algorithm isn't scaling

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2010-07-29

2010-07-29 Thread Walter Bender
== Sugar == 1. Squeakfest Part II: The final day of Squeakfest as was uplifting as my first day at the conference. There were reports from the field using Etoys and many oh-the-things-you-can-do presentations by teachers who use Etoys in the classroom. There was a nice mix of projects built by

Re: [Sugar-devel] Home view activities layout

2010-07-29 Thread Gary Martin
On 29 Jul 2010, at 20:45, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, At the moment Sugar's enabling the freeform and circle layouts, but the code (jarabe/desktop/favoritesview.py) also defines (and then comments out) triangle, box and sunflower layouts. The circle algorithm isn't scaling well

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-92

2010-07-29 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27002/turtle_art-92.xo Release notes: fixed sharing bug introduced in v91 Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] touchpad section for Sugar Control Panel

2010-07-29 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:27 AM, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Paul Fox's message of Wed Jul 28 16:01:22 +0200 2010: sascha wrote:   Even your latest patch still contains

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption!

2010-07-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 19:21 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Here's an almost infallible recipe to reproduce it: 1. open Write 2. type something 3. close Write 4. wait a few seconds 5. kill -9 the datastore process 6. restart sugar (ctrl-alt-del) Your saved entry is gone. It still takes

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] touchpad section for Sugar Control Panel

2010-07-29 Thread Paul Fox
walter wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:27 AM, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Paul Fox's message of Wed Jul 28 16:01:22 +0200 2010: sascha wrote: Even your

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Remove hard-coded School Server URL when XOs register #sl1976

2010-07-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 10:33 +1200, Tim McNamara wrote: Hi there, Ref http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1976 Bevaviour of the software is now independent of the hardware that Sugar is running. All registrations will look for Jabber server settings from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Add cpu and memory resource indicator to frame

2010-07-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 01:12 +0530, anishmangal2002 wrote: This patch adds an icon to the frame, whose palette menu displays the memory and cpu resources. For computing free memory, the code reads the /proc/meminfo file (thanks quozl) and for computing cpu usage, the code reads the /proc/stat

Re: [Sugar-devel] Audacity under Sugar

2010-07-29 Thread Sean Linton
The audacity.xo download is not loading on the computer I have. Is it known to work elsewhere? I am on: build 802 Sugar 0.82.1 Firmware Q2E41 On 30/07/2010, Daniel Castelo dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: In this page you could find a sugarized version of audacity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Audacity under Sugar

2010-07-29 Thread Daniel Castelo
Try installing this package: *compat-expat1 * On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Sean Linton s...@lpnz.org wrote: The audacity.xo download is not loading on the computer I have. Is it known to work elsewhere? I am on: build 802 Sugar 0.82.1 Firmware Q2E41 On 30/07/2010, Daniel Castelo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore index corruption!

2010-07-29 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 05:01:32PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: We figured out that the datastore delays writes to disk by about 60 seconds. This braindead behavior appears to be a *designed* optimization! I recall encountering something like this last week. The test case was to start

Re: [Sugar-devel] Home view activities layout

2010-07-29 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 03:57:35PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: See http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar (towards the bottom of the page). +1 on the spiral. Also, that page suggests vi, but current builds include gedit which is much easier. The files have also moved. sudo gedit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Home view activities layout

2010-07-29 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 03:57:35PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: See http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar (towards the bottom of the page). +1 on the spiral. I like it too. I'm worried that it would scale badly, but Walter suggested just tightening the spiral, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Audacity under Sugar

2010-07-29 Thread Sean Linton
OK, that has Audacity loading as an activity icon. Great, Thanks. Any joy on the libmp3lame.so resolution? . . .Dependencies Resolved PackageArch Version RepositorySize

Re: [Sugar-devel] Audacity under Sugar

2010-07-29 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:19:59PM +1100, Sean Linton wrote: Any joy on the libmp3lame.so resolution? I'm curious. Have you tried http://www.rpmfusion.org/Configuration for Fedora 11? Running Transaction Installing : compat-expat1 [1/1] error:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Home view activities layout

2010-07-29 Thread Gary Martin
On 30 Jul 2010, at 02:00, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 03:57:35PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: See http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar (towards the bottom of the page). +1 on the spiral. I like it too. I'm worried that it would scale badly,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] touchpad section for Sugar Control Panel

2010-07-29 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: walter wrote:   On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:27 AM, pbrobin...@gmail.com   pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:   On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Sascha Silbe   sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote:   Excerpts from Paul Fox's

Re: [Sugar-devel] Audacity under Sugar

2010-07-29 Thread Sean Linton
Not sure about this: bash-3.2# yum localinstall --nogpgcheck http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm Setting up Local Package Process Cannot open file:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Home view activities layout

2010-07-29 Thread Frederick Grose
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 03:57:35PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: See http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar/ModifyingSugar (towards the bottom of the page). +1 on the spiral. I like it too. I'm worried that it

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] touchpad section for Sugar Control Panel

2010-07-29 Thread Paul Fox
walter wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: walter wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:27 AM, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote:

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Calculate-32

2010-07-29 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4076 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27003/calculate-32.xo Release notes: - New feature to display integer results in decimal, binary, octal, hexadecimal - True and False supported

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Problem with Pippy layout on =0.84

2010-07-29 Thread Anish Mangal
Pippy-36 [1] while running on xo1-0.84 (and lower) has a problem with its layout [2] where the Keep and Activity-Stop buttons drop off the main toolbar and the share combo box doesn't appear anymore (probably due to lack of space on the main toolbar). I wanted to get an opinion on what should be