Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Mike Dawson
Hi James, Well I've been working here in Afghanistan around 2 years on this one now. I am going to the schools, talking with kids, and meeting teachers etc. I live out here with not too many breaks back home! I have even gone to school in Kandahar... For those of us who are involved with OLPC

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I don't think you need to do any studies about whether kids want to customize their computers. This has been a constant message from deployments since day 1. The first thing kids did with the very first XOs fielded was slap stickers all over them to customize them. Unfortunately, kids have no

[Sugar-devel] customizing olpc-os-builder image

2010-11-02 Thread javed khan
Hi All can anybody tell me how to accomplish the following using olpc-os-builder 1: install new fonts 2: change the keyboard layout and default language 3: change the boot animation Regards -- Javid Alam Software Developer and Technical support Officer OLPC Ministry of Education Kabul

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Add new numbering scheme #2425

2010-11-02 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Adopt to new numbering scheme #2425

2010-11-02 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Reviewed-by: Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] Google Code-In

2010-11-02 Thread samir menon
I was just wondering if anyone knew if Sugar labs will be participating. I think it is a great way to encourage learners to help the Sugar community, and will prove to be invaluable to the Sugar community. The deadline for submission is , I believe, November 5th. Thanks!, ~Samir

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I don't think you need to do any studies about whether kids want to customize their computers. This has been a constant message from deployments since day 1. The first thing kids did with the very first XOs fielded was slap

Re: [Sugar-devel] customizing olpc-os-builder image

2010-11-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 11/02/2010 05:13 AM, javed khan wrote: can anybody tell me how to accomplish the following using olpc-os-builder 1: install new fonts 2: change the keyboard layout and default language 3: change the boot animation sugar-devel@ is not really the right mailing list for this question. You

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 12:40:13PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I wonder how it will turn out this time, maybe we've finally moved past some of the old bugbears. This is exactly the core[one of not many, at least] problem of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I think we should let the kids customize their machines easily -- certainly to change the colors. Changing the colors is just editing /usr/share/themes/sugar-72/gtk-2.0/gtkrc in a safe and reasonably upgrade-friendly way, right?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Mike Dawson
Hi, I guess the crux of the issue is the link between the developers (of whom some are working on deployments and dealing with features that are important to them) and the ground out in places like here. If we want to create something more inclusive I'm sure a lot of deployments would like to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:33:35PM +, Martin Dengler wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 12:40:13PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I wonder how it will turn out this time, maybe we've finally moved past some of the old bugbears.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 09:48:15PM +0430, Mike Dawson wrote: Hi, I guess the crux of the issue is the link between the developers (of whom some are working on deployments and dealing with features that are important to them) and the ground out in places like here. If we want to create

[Sugar-devel] SoaS 4 - Mango Lassi is out.

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, This is the non announcement announcement of the release of Sugar on a Stick 4 Mango Lassi is out. You can download both the 32 and 64 bit version from http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ There's an outline of some common bugs in Fedora 14 and hence Fedora 14 outlined here

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS 4 - Mango Lassi is out.

2010-11-02 Thread Thomas Gilliard
The About page still says third edition mirabelle Tom Gilliard Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, This is the non announcement announcement of the release of Sugar on a Stick 4 Mango Lassi is out. You can download both the 32 and 64 bit version from http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Change toolbar to enable the use in Sugar 0.86

2010-11-02 Thread James Cameron
Reviewed-by: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:07:21AM -0300, godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: From: Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org No commit message body, but the subject said it well. -activity_toolbar.insert(gobutton, 2) +

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH Pippy] Add EditToolbar and modify toolbars to support the older from sugar 0.86

2010-11-02 Thread godiard
From: Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org --- groupthink/sugar_tools.py | 23 +--- pippy_app.py | 87 +++-- 2 files changed, 94 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-) diff --git a/groupthink/sugar_tools.py b/groupthink/sugar_tools.py

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Change toolbar to enable the use in Sugar 0.86

2010-11-02 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Thanks James, and sorry by doing lost your time. When I worked with the second patch from Anish, I understand more changes needed. The new patch is http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-November/028511.html Gonzalo On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:39 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH Pippy] Add EditToolbar and modify toolbars to support the older from sugar 0.86

2010-11-02 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
This patch modify the last two patches from Anish to enable the use of the right toolbars in every Sugar version. There are screenshots here: http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/pippy-in-sugar-0.84.png http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/pippy-in-sugar-0.90.png Gonzalo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH Pippy] Add EditToolbar and modify toolbars to support the older from sugar 0.86

2010-11-02 Thread Anish Mangal
Hi, Thank you for the patch, however, * I'd prefer two patches for two different changes (layout compatibility fix, edit toolbar), as I mailed earlier. * Your patch moves the activity-exit button to the left for sugar 0.88+. This [1] is how it should look. * Regarding the layout-fix, your patch

[Sugar-devel] New gitorious test request

2010-11-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, It is a call to help with testing new gitorious. Please take a look to http://jita.sugarlabs.org/. It contains a *copy* or git.sugarlabs.org. This is also a call to test integration of gitorious with a Central Login system[1] that might be used for password based accounts on all SL

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm not certain that editing the existing gtkrc will be sufficient (although it would certainly be a good start). As my history briefly explained, Sugar was not designed to be 'colored' in the sorts of ways a kid might want. (We might care whether the text/icons are easily readable; they might

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Here's a mockup image using a blurred drop shadow for the icons and a simple wood texture desktop, yes it looks rather pretty, but it would consume perhaps 10% of memory on an XO-1, redraws and switching views would