[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Image Viewer-22

2013-03-26 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4032 Sugar Platform: 0.86 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28533/image_viewer-22.xo Release notes: * Fullscreen is useless #3704 * Update translations Sugar Labs Activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/25/2013 01:27 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: While I agree in theory with all this, we can improve our actual situation if we look at our resources, time and people. * Time: we don't have a schedule, then feature discussion can't start. We can improve if we have a clear path and start to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/25/2013 09:32 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Forgot to reply all... -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com Date: 25 March 2013 21:12 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews To: Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de On 25

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 10:53, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: That is bad of course. Could have been several reasons. Maybe the decoupling of patches and the bug tracker, maybe just felt of the table... Sometimes a ping is valid option. But yes, the easiest area to solve. I did try to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 11:13 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 26 March 2013 10:53, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: That is bad of course. Could have been several reasons. Maybe the decoupling of patches and the bug tracker, maybe just felt of the table... Sometimes a ping is valid option. But

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Quiñones
I would like to applaud the discussion. Yes, I think we are blocking too much, in regards to stuff that is out of bugfixing, and polishing the gtk3 port. This is indeed not good for the community. When I started in this project, my patches received reviews from many people, not only

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 12:21 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: I would like to applaud the discussion. Yes, I think we are blocking too much, in regards to stuff that is out of bugfixing, and polishing the gtk3 port. This is indeed not good for the community. When I started in this project, my patches

Re: [Sugar-devel] Features: Background image in Home View

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/3/25 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: 2013/3/25 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: My first impression is that this feature can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Features: Background image in Home View

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/3/25 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: Counter-proposal: add tiled backgrounds Mockup: http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/bg-mockup.png - let the user select a shape (star, football, animal footsteps, etc) - the

[Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello, we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I think we need to consider what our options are. If we had to release 6 months after 0.98.0, that would be the beginning of June, thus only 2 months and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 12:26, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 03/26/2013 12:21 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: I would like to applaud the discussion. Yes, I think we are blocking too much, in regards to stuff that is out of bugfixing, and polishing the gtk3 port. This is indeed not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I think we need to consider what our options are. If we had to release 6

Re: [Sugar-devel] Features: Background image in Home View

2013-03-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Replies to different questions and proposals: From the wiki page, I can't distinguish the good background examples from the bad ones I was using the backgrounds provided by fedora 18, as examples. They are no so good for us as you said. I see two ways to have good backgrounds: preserve the

[Sugar-devel] Scratch not in the Sugar AppStore ?

2013-03-26 Thread lionel
Hi all, Just for my information: is there any reason that the Scratch activity for Sugar is not downloadable from http://activies.sugarlabs.org ? Seems to be downloadable only from here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Scratch#Download Best regards from France. Lionel.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Scratch not in the Sugar AppStore ?

2013-03-26 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:27 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, Just for my information: is there any reason that the Scratch activity for Sugar is not downloadable from http://activies.sugarlabs.org ? It was removed about one year ago due to some issues with an incompatible

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 01:20 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I think we need to consider what

[Sugar-devel] Documents folder in sugar-build

2013-03-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
After install sugar-build, I can't see my Documents folder in the journal, and this issue produce other problems in palettes and different places. While some issues are solved, not having access to Documents folder difficult tests, and is a important regression. The first time I saw that, was when

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documents folder in sugar-build

2013-03-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Replying to my own mail: if I do outside of sugar-build: [gonzalo@localhost sugar-build]$ xdg-user-dir DOCUMENTS /home/gonzalo/Documentos but if I run sughar-buildd make run, and in the sugar terminal do the same [gonzalo@localhost]$ xdg-user-dir DOCUMENTS /home/gonzalo The solution is copy:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documents folder in sugar-build

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 16:33, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Daniel, If you can solve this issue in sugar-build better, if not should be good have this documented. Hi, it's a sugar bug and I think it should be fixed in sugar. See http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4396

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documents folder in sugar-build

2013-03-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I don't think so. The problem is sugar-build is looking at the file user-dirs.dirs in $HOME/ sugar-build/state/home/default/config/ instead of using the file from $HOME/.config/ Gonzalo On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: On 26 March 2013 16:33, Gonzalo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documents folder in sugar-build

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
It's looking inside the path pointed by the XDG_CONFIG_HOME environement variable, which can be set to any path. Running xdg-user-dirs-update at startup is necessary to ensure that user-dirs.dirs is created inside XDG_CONFIG_HOME, whatever that is. See the spec

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 12:21, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: When I started in this project, my patches received reviews from many people, not only maintainers. Many discussions went by. I don't see that happening anymore. Could it be because most patches are posted in trac now? I'm not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documents folder in sugar-build

2013-03-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Then you say we should run xdg-user-dirs-update at start up of every sugar session, right? Can be a solution, but if possible, I prefer avoid it, sugar start up is already slow, adding more stuff, not needed in the 99% of the cases is not a good idea. Can we run xdg-users-dirs in sugar-build?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Anish Mangal
I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can give my two cents (disclaimer: I'm sorry if I misunderstood facts or misquoted people): With dextrose, we had the same bottleneck problem, of patches getting stuck in the review queue, then the commit queue. One associated problem is that the longer a

[Sugar-devel] Google Summer of Code project ideas

2013-03-26 Thread Walter Bender
We have been accumulating project ideas for Google Summer of Code 2013 [1]. Please take a few minutes to add a favorite project or sign on as a co-mentor to an existing project. Also, feel free to help us refine the descriptions on the pages. (I've added a bit of text to the end of each project,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Ajay Garg
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Anish Mangal an...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can give my two cents (disclaimer: I'm sorry if I misunderstood facts or misquoted people): With dextrose, we had the same bottleneck problem, of patches getting stuck in the

[Sugar-devel] Language section debugging, use ICU?

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Quiñones
I have ongoing work on polishing the Language section of the Sugar settings panel. I'm sharing my findings to open discussion, to start bringing back discussions to the mailing list, and to encourage testing of my patches. First, an introduction of the issues, ordered by priority as I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documents folder in sugar-build

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 18:51, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Then you say we should run xdg-user-dirs-update at start up of every sugar session, right? Can be a solution, but if possible, I prefer avoid it, sugar start up is already slow, adding more stuff, not needed in the 99% of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documents folder in sugar-build

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Pushed a fix in sugar-runner. On 26 March 2013 20:32, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 March 2013 18:51, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Then you say we should run xdg-user-dirs-update at start up of every sugar session, right? Can be a solution, but if possible, I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 18:57, Anish Mangal an...@sugarlabs.org wrote: What could this mean in context of sugar/mainline: * Have one or two maintainers. Simon and Manuq are excellent. They are responsible for setting roadmaps, deadlines, and making releases. * Have multiple people with commit access

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documents folder in sugar-build

2013-03-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Thanks! Gonzalo On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Pushed a fix in sugar-runner. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Anish Mangal an...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can give my two cents (disclaimer: I'm sorry if I misunderstood facts or misquoted people): What could this mean in context of sugar/mainline: * Have one or two

Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Summer of Code project ideas

2013-03-26 Thread Jeff Elkner
Wow, the list of proposals pretty well covers the things I'd like to see happen as a classroom teacher! I will be waiting with anticipation for the Summer work to begin. In order to contribute, I have a student this Summer who will be completing his community college career studies certificate

Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Summer of Code project ideas

2013-03-26 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Walter, I am looking over this list. I am wondering about the requirements for a mentor. Thanks. Gerald On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Walter Bender wrote: We have been accumulating project ideas for Google Summer of Code 2013 [1]. Please take a few minutes to add a favorite

Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Summer of Code project ideas

2013-03-26 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, I am looking over this list. I am wondering about the requirements for a mentor. (1) be a member of the community (2) be willing to put in a few hours a week (a bit more time in the beginning) keeping

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/3/26 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com: On 26 March 2013 12:21, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: When I started in this project, my patches received reviews from many people, not only maintainers. Many discussions went by. I don't see that happening anymore. Could it be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Summer of Code project ideas

2013-03-26 Thread Martin Abente
I just added my proposal, if anyone wants to join as co-mentor is welcome! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, I am looking over this list. I am wondering

Re: [Sugar-devel] webservices patch (again)

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Some initial comments on 0001 * Did you post screenshots of this so that we can get designers approval? * An example of the json format somewhere would be useful. The icon property is a bit suspect (it can contain pretty different things). * There are several places where splitting up the code in

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for Android-GSOC Proposal?

2013-03-26 Thread John Tierney
Hi Daniel, Building off your and Lionel's conversation on HTML5 and Sugar to Android conversation and the comments on them being somewhat interconnected. Would it be possible for you to write up a project for GSOC coming from the Sugar to Android perspective? In our Sugar Marketing meeting

[Sugar-devel] New sugar contributions

2013-03-26 Thread Will Orr
Hello, Matt and I are taking the Humanitarian and Open Source development class at Rochester Institute of Technology. We need to pick a portion of the OLPC project to work on, and we chose to do development on Sugar itself. We were wondering if there were any projects or bugs that we could

Re: [Sugar-devel] New sugar contributions

2013-03-26 Thread forster
Hi You have looked at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ ? Tony Hello, Matt and I are taking the Humanitarian and Open Source development class at Rochester Institute of Technology. We need to pick a portion of the OLPC project to work on, and we chose to do development on Sugar itself.

Re: [Sugar-devel] New sugar contributions

2013-03-26 Thread Will Orr
Hello, Yep, we've been selecting bugs from there, as well as http://dev.laptop.org/. We were wondering if there was anything specific we could help work on for the next release. Thanks, William Orr fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi You have looked at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ ? Tony

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for Android-GSOC Proposal?

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi John, honestly my feeling is that we would need to do quite a bit of research work before being able to write up a project that would make sense for GSOC. There are several possible approaches and, as far as I know, they have not been investigated much yet. On 27 March 2013 00:41, John

Re: [Sugar-devel] New sugar contributions

2013-03-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Hi will, If you want help fixing bugs on activities, can be useful for you this page: http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/bugs_index.html There are other tasks where we can use help: * finish the port of TamTam suite to Gtk3 (volunteers and I started, but do not have time to finish) * Create a web