[Sugar-devel] Technical Release - Sugar 0.110

2016-10-07 Thread Sam P.
Hi All, It has been a huge cycle and there has been lots of great work done by many members of this community. One sum of that work is the Sugar 0.110 release. Tonight I will be doing the technical side of the release - tarballs only. I'd like to take my time to properly summarize the

[Sugar-devel] Release Sugar 0.109.2

2016-09-21 Thread Sam P.
Hi All, This is this release of Sugar 0.109.2, a feature, string, api and UI frozen version on the road to 0.110. Please find the tarballs on download.sugarlabs.org in the usual places. Note that there are tarballs for only the following modules: sugar, sugar-toolkit-gtk3, sugar-toolkit. There

[Sugar-devel] Release 0.109.0.3 unstable

2016-08-03 Thread Sam P.
Hi All, Today I have released 0.109.0.3 unstable for sugar, sugar-artwork, sugar-toolkit-gtk3 and sugar-artwork. The tarballs are in the usual places on download.sugarlabs.org. And as always, the COPR is the easiest way to access the builds on fedora:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Thoughts on Collab

2016-07-28 Thread Sam P.
gt;>1. Re: Thoughts on Collab (Dave Crossland) >>2. Re: Thoughts on Collab (Sebastian Silva) >> >> >> ---------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 26 Jul

Re: [Sugar-devel] MIME type?

2016-06-21 Thread Sam P.
Hi Sebastian, We have Sphinx docs avbaliable online: https://developer.sugarlabs.org/sugar3/ Contributions to add more docstrings are always appreciated. Thanks, Sam On Wed, Jun 22, 2016, 04:53 Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 21/06/16 a las 13:32, Gonzalo Odiard

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)

2016-06-09 Thread Sam P.
Sean, I completely agree with everything you said. We seem to have such a leaky conversion funnel that advertising and social media would be a waste of money anyway. You are 100% right that content is key now. Thanks, Sam On Thu, Jun 9, 2016, 19:41 Sean DALY wrote: > I'm

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-06-07 Thread Sam P.
On 30 May 2016 12:36:37 PM AEST, Dave Crossland wrote: >Hi > >I want to return to this older thread because of James Cameron's >comment in >https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/688#issuecomment-222393275 : > >On the assumption that Sugar Labs is dropping support for XO-1, I'll

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.110 Release Cycle

2016-06-05 Thread Sam P.
Hi Thomas, Thanks for testing! The copr doesn't include activities yet. If any activity authors want their activities in the copr, please send me tarballs (and probably send them to Peter Robinson as well so that they get into rawhide). Thanks, Sam On 6 June 2016 8:02:12 AM AEST, Thomas

Re: [Sugar-devel] Release Sugar 0.109.0.0

2016-05-30 Thread Sam P.
I'm not sure if it will. Copr doesn't seem to support fedora 18 builds. What is the best way to setup a f18 rpmbuild? Does anybody have one? Maybe we could setup our own f18 repo? On 30 May 2016 4:47:28 PM AEST, Tony Anderson wrote: >Hi, Sam > >Does this mean that

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOC Day 3

2016-05-26 Thread Sam P.
On 27 May 2016 7:49:16 AM AEST, Abhijit Patel wrote: >Hi Sam, >I have fixed the keyboard input handler. > >Icons like blocksoff.svg in turtleart are preferable. What do you >think? Also, this may help you: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_iconify > >I am now

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOC Day 3

2016-05-26 Thread Sam P.
On 27 May 2016 7:49:16 AM AEST, Abhijit Patel wrote: >Hi Sam, >I have fixed the keyboard input handler. > >Icons like blocksoff.svg in turtleart are preferable. What do you >think? Yep, that box looks nice. > >I am now working on metadata for projects implemented

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSOC] Font Editor Next Steps

2016-05-24 Thread Sam P.
On 25 May 2016 8:45:53 AM AEST, Yash Agarwal wrote: >On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:18 PM Dave Crossland wrote: > >> On 23 May 2016 at 18:52, Yash Agarwal wrote: >> >>> >>>- Dave, Eli could you guys make a UI mock for the character

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSOC] Font Editor Next Steps

2016-05-16 Thread Sam P.
Lionel - we've already discussed this before. Python is objectively better for every activity; Gtk+ is more stable, has more stability, creates better code quality and supports collaboration. But for the font editor world, python has even more advantages. There are tonnes of libraries for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python code standards?

2016-05-16 Thread Sam P.
I think that we currently use the Flake8 standard. On 15 May 2016 2:25:28 PM AEST, Dave Crossland wrote: >Hi > >What code standards should we use today in 2016 for python code? :) > >Python 2.7 + PEP8? > >-- >Cheers >Dave > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] View Source Code [BROWSE]

2016-05-06 Thread Sam P.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, That feature is already kind of there. Open browse. Then open view source from the frame (ctrl-shift-v probably). The current HTML is displayed under "current activity source", the default tab. Thanks, Sam On 5 May 2016 5:20:08 PM AEST,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Screenshot of gnome desktop (OLPC OS)

2016-04-29 Thread Sam P.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 There is always social help for sugar related things. https://socialhelp.sugarlabs.org/ On 30 April 2016 12:21:11 PM AEST, Tony Anderson wrote: >Hi, Dave > >Not to my knowledge. This falls on the Gnome side. > >Gimp is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar On Broadway?

2016-04-26 Thread Sam P.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I believe that abstracting the x11 dependency will be beneficial beyond Broadway. It will help us when we move to Wayland for example. Thanks, Sam On 27 April 2016 9:31:38 AM AEST, Manash Raja wrote: >> >> You were?

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Sam P.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, I tested your website in portrait on my phone. Many of the text columns looked a little small. Please try to test with that too. When I went to your site, it seemed to be lacking in content. Please don't add dummy text now and do

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screenshot feature [GSoC Project]

2016-04-17 Thread Sam P.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dave is right. The my settings is the dominant and more flexable style. Maybe we could move the password prompt into the palette, or convert it to the better style? Isn't the journal full alert one of the most confusing things for users? Isn't

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #4906 Sugar NORM: No indicator when headphones are plugged in

2016-04-06 Thread Sam P.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 You could probably start at with simply changing the text, then send a later patch to add new icons. On 6 April 2016 10:36:09 PM AEST, Sugar Labs Bugs wrote: >#4906: No indicator when headphones are plugged in

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Aspirant

2016-03-12 Thread Sam P.
Did trac email you the validation token? We recently changed the email setup so it now sends emails properly. Please check all your folders if it is not in your inbox. On 13 March 2016 4:22:40 am LHDT, Nitin Jain wrote: >It is still showing the same error. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding crash of sugar!

2016-02-29 Thread Sam P.
/osbuild build sugar-runner > > Is this a better solution? > > On 29 February 2016 at 13:30, Sam P. <sam@sam.today> wrote: > >> Ah, this is one of the worst error messages of all time. Usually it has >> nothing to do with X, and is actually because jarabe (sugar shell)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding crash of sugar!

2016-02-29 Thread Sam P.
Ah, this is one of the worst error messages of all time. Usually it has nothing to do with X, and is actually because jarabe (sugar shell) crashed. Try viewing the sugar log. If you are using sugar-build, it will be in "sugar-build/home/dotsugar/default/logs/shell.log". Otherwise, it will be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse as a GSoC 2016 Project

2016-02-24 Thread Sam P.
>> like Firefox/Googles 3x3 array of dots to open up a more complete set of >> options including access to developer tools like 'show source page', and >> any like Firebug that can be made available. >> >> Tony >> >> >> On 02/23/2016 10:41 AM, Sam P. wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse as a GSoC 2016 Project

2016-02-22 Thread Sam P.
Hello, Please have a look at the pull requests and the 'webkit2' branch.. Testing and contributions are appreciated. I think this port is very close to done, so would you have enough to do in your project? Thanks, Sam On Tuesday, February 23, 2016, Utkarsh Tiwari

Re: [Sugar-devel] Download Manager ProgressBar [DESIGN]

2016-02-22 Thread Sam P.
d of 'progressIcon' & >> > 'ToolButton' by making some changes to the SugarToolButton code. Here is >> > how the download ProgressIcon @50% completion looks like -> >> > http://imgur.com/iBg4Ktr >> > >> > Waiting for your reviews :) >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] wiki problems

2016-02-20 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tony, The freedom issue is related to the Visual Editor function of mediawiki. Try using the edit source temporally, I will try and find what is wrong in the mean time. I'm not sure about the recapatcha though. Maybe it is a mixed content issue. Is there anything in your browsers console

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal status

2016-02-20 Thread Sam P.
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 6:00 PM Tony Anderson wrote: > Hi, Walter > > I have some concerns about the proposed GSOC tasks as well as some ideas > for new tasks. > > I agree that the Journal needs rethinking. Below are my thoughts > (re-thoughts?). > > Specifically, > > The

Re: [Sugar-devel] DESIGN TEAM Assemblage

2016-02-18 Thread Sam P.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:09 PM Ifeanyi Peter wrote: > Dear Sir, > > Yes, it sounds like marketing, but who designs what the marketing > department uses for their functions? It's the design team, that is the > point I am trying to make as well. > > How do I get

Re: [Sugar-devel] Need Assistance

2016-02-13 Thread Sam P.
Hello, If trac is not emailing you, try going to the forgot password page and getting it to reset the password email. Alternatively, maybe the solution is just to attempt to log in in spite of receiving the email. This seems to be an annoying trac issue as I haven't yet found a case that always

Re: [Sugar-devel] Download Manager ProgressBar [DESIGN]

2016-02-11 Thread Sam P.
ay need to find and fix any >> > bugs in ProgressIcon or ToolButton that prevent it. >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 11:31:28PM +0530, Utkarsh Tiwari wrote: >> > > Is there any way to use a ProgressIcon as a Toolbutton ? >> >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse, vulnerable

2016-02-02 Thread Sam P.
Hi James, Borwse could eaisly be ported now, as webkit 2.11.4 finally includes essential apis for functionality. Maybe this will be for next cycle? Will the newer webkit version be avliable downstream on OLPC OS, or will you use the older webkit1 browse? Thanks, Sam On Wednesday, February 3,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Download Manager ProgressBar [DESIGN]

2016-01-31 Thread Sam P.
Hello! Maybe just a large down arrow and fill it vertically? See 'emblem-downloads' or 'transfer-from' in sugar-artwork. Thanks, Sam On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Utkarsh Tiwari wrote: > How should the Icon for "Download Button" look like? Could you please >

Re: [Sugar-devel] embedding a Twitter "Follow" and facebook follow

2016-01-26 Thread Sam P.
Hi Samson, I think that you missed the point of what James said. Facebook engages in lots of tracking and questionable business practices, see the Stallman article on this subject [1]. Maybe adding a link could be acceptable (however do we want to send the message that we endorse facebook?),

Re: [Sugar-devel] activity instance directory

2016-01-20 Thread Sam P.
Thanks for the good analysis James! I don't think that deleting on startup is an optimal idea. It is counter-intuitive that the user must open every activity on their computer when they want to reclaim space. It is also bad in the case of infrequently used activities. I think that a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #4928 Sugar UNSP: keyboard control panel does not show

2016-01-20 Thread Sam P.
Can not reproduce on fedora 24 (rawhide if it is still that). Please specify the version that the issue occurs on. On Wednesday, 30 December 2015 3:14:52 PM AEDT, Sugar Labs Bugs wrote: #4928: keyboard control panel does not show

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting a few errors when following tutorials given in the Write your Own Activity page

2016-01-18 Thread Sam P.
Hi Mukund! On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 5:24 PM, mukund code wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am new to Sugar. I am currently going through the tutorial posted here: > https://developer.sugarlabs.org/activity.md.html > > I created a sample activity(using exactly the same instructions

[Sugar-devel] Default Collaboration Server

2016-01-18 Thread Sam P.
Hi All, Currently Sugar defaults to using "jabber.sugarlabs.org" as a collaboration server in Sugar on a Stick and other GNU distros (fedora, debian, etc.). However, I propose that we change the default (this release!) to use the local network (telepathy salut). This is a feature is that is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Approach

2016-01-09 Thread Sam P.
Hi Samson, They are interesting in a way, and they seem to have a nice presentation editor. Maybe that could be something to hack with the new collab text editor apis? But I disagree with their approach many ways. I was chatting with some people about this and struggled to see pedagogical use

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcing] UNSTABLE 0.107.1 release (feature freeze)

2016-01-04 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tony, This is serious. If an activity wants to work in collaboration mode on a NEW version of telepathy gabble, it needs to be ported not to use tubes. However, your activity will still work on OLPC OS 13/14, Fedora 21 and before and on the current Debian (???). Your activity will still

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcing] UNSTABLE 0.107.1 release (feature freeze)

2016-01-03 Thread Sam P.
Hi Peter, There was an email thread going around on the status of the collab work on sugar-devel. That may be of interest to you. TL;DR All activities need to be ported, and there will be a very small toolkit change. The toolkit change has not yet landed. Thanks, Sam On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN RFC] In-Sugar Introduction (was: Onboarding)

2016-01-03 Thread Sam P.
t > appreciated by users. > > Kudos to all involved in champion work on www.sugarlabs.org btw. > > All the best in 2016, > > Iain > > > On Sun, 2015-12-27 at 17:20 +1100, Sam P. wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Sugar has a novel user interface, with lots of beauti

Re: [Sugar-devel] "Another osbuild instance is running" error

2015-12-30 Thread Sam P.
Hi Shraddha, I think that the easiest plan of action is just to delete the lock file. If the issue persists, you can delete the lock file again as a workaround and file a bug or make a patch. Thanks, Sam On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Shraddha Barke wrote: >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN RFC] Onboarding

2015-12-30 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tony, Thank you for the comments on the proposal. (For context, by onboarding I refer to the users first run experience. Similar to [1]. Specifically something that helps them understand the basics of sugar) >From an implementation perspective it is important as you note to bind to widgets

Re: [Sugar-devel] display blocker errors in f24 (rawhide) Soas live in koji

2015-12-28 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tom, I'm running rawhide now and it looks like a mess due to the huge changes this gtk cycle. I attempted to patch some things [1], and that fixed some issues. However, the changes are simpily massive this release [2]. I think that we are going to need to have gtk3 and gtk3.20 with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of collaboration work

2015-12-26 Thread Sam P.
Hi Gonzalo, I agree with your perspective that we do need to make the wrapper the best it can be before locking ourselves into it. That is a good plan. I'm not sure what you mean about adding a parameter to the setup method. Could you please elaborate? Thanks, Sam On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of collaboration work

2015-12-26 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tony, Sorry that I was a bit vague in the previous email. The collab wrapper is not yet merged into sugar-toolkit-gtk3, however can be used by activities by copying a script and including it in their activity. The collabwrapper script is available here:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of collaboration work

2015-12-26 Thread Sam P.
Hi James, On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 2:28 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Thanks all for the thread and replies. > > I'm not sure I understand the situation fully yet, but I'll make some > comments regardless. Hopefully any disconnect between my comments and > your understanding will

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN RFC] Onboarding

2015-12-26 Thread Sam P.
Hi All, Sugar has a novel user interface, with lots of beautiful and logical things. However, there are some important elements (such as the frame or journal) that are not familiar or intuitive to new users. This is an issue, as sugar currently relys upon exploration as our only user onboarding

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of collaboration work

2015-12-23 Thread Sam P.
Hi Martin, On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Martin Abente < martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have been reviewing the current state of the collaboration proposals and > I am afraid it is still too early for merging it. We need to explore more > use cases, and this

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of collaboration work

2015-12-23 Thread Sam P.
i: http://people.sugarlabs.org/sam/docs-collab-wrapper-try2/sugar3.presence.wrapper.html Thanks, Sam > > Tony > > > > > On 12/24/2015 12:34 AM, Sam P. wrote: > > Hi Martin, > > On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Martin Abente < > martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com> wrote: &

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-build on F23

2015-12-07 Thread Sam P.
Hi, Broot is disabled by default on fedora these days. Did adding the folder fix that? Thanks, Sam On Tue, Dec 8, 2015, 2:24 AM Walter Bender wrote: > Yes. I didn't disable broot. I'll test again and try to get you a log file. > > -walter > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Membership deadline.

2015-11-30 Thread Sam P.
Hi James, On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:17 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:34:11PM +0300, Dan Tenason wrote: > > [...] Secondly there are six candidates for seven open positions on > > the oversight board. [...] > > I can't find good evidence of that. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcing] UNSTABLE 0.107.0 release

2015-11-27 Thread Sam P.
Hi Peter, For porting browse activity, we need upstream changes. Part of them are written, but not the bindings. We need a new api to save and restore state. I should chase that up at some point. Otherwise, the port will be very easy. I'm not sure why we ship webkit2 though, because I'm not

Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command

2015-11-24 Thread Sam P.
ovember 23, 2015 at 8:33 PM Free Dom <freedompop123...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Is there an alternative since I am on Fedora 23? > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Free Dom <freedompop123...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] AbiWord 3.next release plans

2015-11-24 Thread Sam P.
Hi Hubert, I cloned the abiword repository (r35148) and built abiword with the following options: ./configure --enable-collab-backend-sugar --enable-plugins="collab" This triggers no compilation errors, only deprecation warnings about Gtk. The gtk deprecations are from the zebra striping

Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command

2015-11-23 Thread Sam P.
<freedompop123...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I am on Fedora 23. >> >> ./osbuild shell >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. <sam@sam.today> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What distribution are you on? I don't know

Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command

2015-11-23 Thread Sam P.
Hi, What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on fedora because broot is not used. You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. Thanks, Sam On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom

Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command

2015-11-23 Thread Sam P.
Please file a bug describing how you encountered that issue. For a quick fix "rm .lock .lock*" On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:36 PM Free Dom <freedompop123...@gmail.com> wrote: > What if another osbuild instance is running? > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Sam P. <sa

Re: [Sugar-devel] AbiWord 3.next release plans

2015-11-21 Thread Sam P.
Hello Hubert, (Sorry about the reply formatting, I saw this post on the archive and I suppose this is how to reply to things) > Proposal: > -I'd like to deprecate the collab plugin: for AbiCollab, we don't have the server. For the other protocol, we can't maintain them. Deprecation would go by

Re: [Sugar-devel] System alerts ui in sugar [DESIGN]

2015-11-02 Thread Sam P.
Hi James, On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:58 AM, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > Summary: counter proposal, use modal alerts. +Subject-tag [DESIGN]. > > On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 02:59:46PM +1100, Sam P. wrote: > > In sugar, some subsystems need to show an alert to th

[Sugar-devel] System alerts ui in sugar

2015-10-31 Thread Sam P.
Hi All, In sugar, some subsystems need to show an alert to the user wherevever they are. Right now, we have 2 systems; the max activities limit and Quozl's force power off alerts. Currently these are alerts that show in some places but not others. They are not system wide alerts, so the user

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue setting up sugar-labs dev-env

2015-10-27 Thread Sam P.
; File > "/home/mayukuse/sugarlabs/sugar-build/build/out/sandbox-host/install/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/index.py", > line 277, in find_requirement > raise DistributionNotFound('No distributions at all found for %s' % > req) > DistributionNotFound: No

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue setting up sugar-labs dev-env

2015-10-25 Thread Sam P.
Hi, Are you running behind a proxy? What did the pip debug log say? Thanks, Sam On Sun, Oct 25, 2015, 9:24 PM vinay khandelwal wrote: > I was trying to setup the developer environment following instructions > from https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html

Re: [Sugar-devel] Error while Setting up development environment

2015-10-22 Thread Sam P.
Hi Vinay, What distribution are you running? If you're running Fedora, you can use MODE NONE. Try applying this patch: https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-build/pull/31 Thanks, Sam On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 6:24 AM, vinay khandelwal wrote: > I was following the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Error while Setting up development environment

2015-10-22 Thread Sam P.
Oh, I found where those files where living. I'm copying them across now. It should be working again soon. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Sam P. <sam@sam.today> wrote: > Hi Vinay, > > What distribution are you running? > > If you're running Fedora, you can use MOD

Re: [Sugar-devel] Add more components to bugs.sl.org

2015-10-11 Thread Sam P.
Hi Ignacio, I think that BSLO isn't just for developers - users need to write reports and users shouldn't need to understand the barriers between the components. What is the use case for them anyway? Thanks, Sam On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 1:00 pm Ignacio Rodríguez wrote: Can

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Super key as frame key

2015-10-07 Thread Sam P.
Hi All, Sugar makes no use of the super key for any short cuts. This makes sense in the context of the XO, because of the lack of the key. However, on normal computers with SoaS, the super key is often in a more convenient spot than the function keys, epically on computers than require the Fn

[Sugar-devel] How bad is Sugar (software)?

2015-10-04 Thread Sam P.
Hi All, I'm running an annon. survey about Sugar, and I am interested in hearing everyone's perspective. It will only take a minute or so to complete. "How bad is Sugar (software)?" https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1MFs8qXpMP2udjuPdFa13DamkijNk_3_KwrtTgshD1Bg/viewform I will use your responses

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread Sam P.
Yeah, collaboration is broken in newer (20+? IDK) fedora versions. That is because of telepathy api changes. We will attempt to fix this in the coming release (0.108/1.0?). That seems to the the consensus about the coming release. Thanks, Sam On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 7:04 pm Peter Robinson

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug 1240354 - SoaS live x86_64 20150706 does not login from live system user

2015-09-04 Thread Sam P.
Hi James, On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:44 AM James Cameron wrote: > @All, what is main.py and where are lines 1818 and 2637? > > src/jarabe/main.py is much smaller, only 425 lines. > That is the only main.py there is :) Maybe it is an issue with gir? It isn't something that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug 1240354 - SoaS live x86_64 20150706 does not login from live system user

2015-09-03 Thread Sam P.
Hi James, On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 4:34 pm James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 01:21:19AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > > > On September 3, 2015 at 12:38 AM James Cameron wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 12:11:38AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug 1240354 - SoaS live x86_64 20150706 does not login from live system user

2015-09-01 Thread Sam P.
No, that is exactly the same issue. If you open the log attached < https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1048658> you'll see "GLib.Error: g-invoke-error-quark: Could not locate acme_volume_alsa_new: 'acme_volume_alsa_new': /lib64/libsugar-eventcontroller.so.0: undefined symbol:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Spell checker, Grammar checker for Write

2015-08-30 Thread Sam P.
Hi Lionel, I think it is an abiword config thing. On my Fedora laptop, both abiword and Write Activity have a spell checker. I don't think you need a plugin. Thanks, Sam On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, An OLPC France teacher working on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-install-bundle in 13.2.5 is slooow

2015-08-29 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tony, Do you have the logs of these installs? Is there anything in the logs? Looking back at the commit logs, the change in 0.104 was to use the bundle registry to install bundles if sugar is running [1]. Maybe that has done something or maybe it is a different change down the line!

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-install-bundle in 13.2.5 is slooow

2015-08-29 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tony, Should we make disabling install via bundle registry (SUGAR_PROFILE) a flag? There are use cases when it makes sense to install via bundle registry (updating the activity list) so it is not good to outright disable it. Thanks, Sam On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:51 pm Tony Anderson

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Flappy Birds-1

2015-08-28 Thread Sam P.
Quoting Quozl: Installed on Sugar 0.104 on an OLPC XO-4. Tested. Works well. There are a few things that I'd want to fix before I added it to a deployment build: a. the activity icon is coloured, it should be in the style of other activity icons instead, so that the Sugar user colours can be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Speech synthesizer in sugar web

2015-08-20 Thread Sam P.
Hello Yander, Sugar uses webkit to run web activities. On sugar-build it is via WebKit2 (same as GNOME Web/Ephipany, Apple Safari) and WebKit(1) on XO. Neither of these platforms support the speech api, infact neither of them support many of the flashy new stuff :) Sugar however has tts built

Re: [Sugar-devel] Language Support

2015-08-12 Thread Sam P.
the entries represent countries where the language is spoken or represent dialects? I suspect the lists were copied from earlier releases. They're just the system languages, so that is an issue for the distribution. Tony On 08/12/2015 01:38 PM, Sam P. wrote: Hi Tony, The control panel is very

Re: [Sugar-devel] Language Support

2015-08-12 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tony, The control panel is very simple. The left column is the language and the right column is the region/dialect. Maybe that should be a column header? Also, there is no conflicting + and add buttons. The dropdown for the language selectors in a up or down arrow, while the add a new

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Background selection in Journal

2015-08-05 Thread Sam P.
Hi Ignacio, On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 7:46 am Ignacio Rodríguez igna...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi everyone. Finally I got time for start to work on the features/patches that I submitted time ago. (Too much time in school, but well, worth it :) ) In this case I would like to discuss the selection of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Error on trac reading a bug #4863

2015-07-30 Thread Sam P.
=9961537 On 28/07/15 19:48, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 07/28/2015 09:27 AM, Samuel Cantero wrote: Hi All, On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Sam P. sam@sam.today mailto:sam@sam.today wrote: Hi Bernie, On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 2:12 PM Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Error on trac reading a bug #4863

2015-07-28 Thread Sam P.
for a while, software for doing (1) and (2) certainly exists already :-) On 27/07/15 22:32, Samuel Cantero wrote: I didn't shut it down. The trac container was already off when I checked it. On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Sam P. sam@sam.today mailto:sam@sam.today wrote: Did you

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Error on trac reading a bug #4863

2015-07-27 Thread Sam P.
Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Thanks Sams :) On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Samuel Cantero s...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi All, I just recently check this email. The good news is that Sam P already dockerized this service and now we have the 1.0.7 Trac version. Greetings, On Fri

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-07-21 Thread Sam P.
Hi David, 2GB should be an OK size for a soas stick. I think you'd get 1GB of journal storage if your lucky. What operating system are you trying to create the sugar stick on? If your on windows, maybe try the win32 disk imager program [1]. If your on Linux, try using the plan dd command.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] 13.2.5 simple tests

2015-07-17 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tony, I tested installing slides on Quozl's 106/XO4 build. * ASLO install works automatically via the journal * NewASLO zip does not include any html files when installed via the journal * ASLO and sugar-install-bundle works. I just wget the download url then sugar-install-bundle the file.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [road to 0.108] developing team meeting

2015-07-17 Thread Sam P.
, Martin. On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: +1 from me On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: @Sam: 21 UTC works for me! Does it work for everybody else? On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Sam P. sam

Re: [Sugar-devel] [road to 0.108] developing team meeting

2015-07-14 Thread Sam P.
Hey Martin, I can't do 14 UTC. Would 21/22 UTC be ok for you? Otherwise, I'm always happy to write emails :) Thanks, Sam On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 12:00 am Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Now that Sugar 0.106 has been released, it is time to think about

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.106 Video

2015-07-07 Thread Sam P.
Sounds like a very good way to do it! On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 7:55 AM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I cannot speak for the tools that Sam may have, but a method for internationalisation is to: - write down what Sam said, - translate to Spanish, - play the video with sound muted,

[Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.106 Video

2015-07-05 Thread Sam P.
Hi, So the 0.106 release is tomorrow, which is pretty awesome. I have made a video summarizing the features since we did that last release and it seems like a good idea: https://youtu.be/PXFaXAGIw04 Thanks, Sam ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Change request: Fix open with API

2015-07-03 Thread Sam P.
Hi Tony, I think you have misunderstood the capabilities of the api. The api does not support launching with uris (which is something to look into for 108) or activity ids. The api supports bundle ids (open a new terminal activity) and object ids (open this memorize set). This allows for many

Re: [Sugar-devel] adding gtk as a dependency on sugar-artwork

2015-07-02 Thread Sam P.
Hi Gonzalo, Testing without your patch it appears that the journal background didn't get broken - so most of the breakage must have been fixed later in the Gtk+ 3.17 cycle! Using your patch (the 1st one), it fixes the log tree view and the journal still works fine. I will send a patch. Next

Re: [Sugar-devel] adding gtk as a dependency on sugar-artwork

2015-07-02 Thread Sam P.
Patch: https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/pull/67 On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 9:15 PM Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Great! On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Sam P. sam@sam.today wrote: Hi Gonzalo, Testing without your patch it appears that the journal background didn't

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration

2015-07-01 Thread Sam P.
Yeah, it looks pretty scammy. It references CorprateSocialResponsibility, engaging with youths and is from Facebook not email - making it look like a mass campaign not somebody targeting sugarlabs. Maybe we should just say: SL is a volunteer run, not for profit organization. We are always

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues

2015-06-26 Thread Sam P.
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:48 PM -05:00 from Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org: On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote: IDK about the election but. Hopefully somebody who knows about that can respond. Here's a status report: I asked the board to appoint me election committee

[Sugar-devel] GCI 2014 Wrapup

2015-06-26 Thread Sam P.
Hi All, Ignacio and I recently went to San Fransisco as our GCI 2014 prize [1]. San Francisco was a beautiful city and seeing Google (and a little Mozilla and Twitter) was a really amazing experience. But it wasn't just about San Fransisco. Walter was also in San Fransisco which was amazing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-24 Thread Sam P.
Hello Dan, On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:44 AM Dan Tenason dan.tena...@mail.ru wrote: It was impressive to see how quickly Mr. Innocenti updated the infrastructure once he was made aware that the servers had gone down. Some other problem areas have not been dealt with as quickly. We're all

Re: [Sugar-devel] libflashplayer.so and WebCam issue

2015-06-13 Thread Sam P.
Hi, I doubt that webrtc support (HTML5 camera access api) will come soon. Firstly, it appears to be a driver issue for Firefox. Fedora 20 ships with Firefox 25, and webrtc (getUserMedia) was introduced as early as in Firefox 17. But Browse does not use Firefox/gecko anymore. Browse uses

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration: Server Name change

2015-05-29 Thread Sam P.
Hello, Could you please attach the log file? Thanks, Sam On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:51 PM tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: I am running 13.2.4 for XO-1 (build 16) with Sugar 0.104.1. When I go My to Settings Network and try to add a Server name I notice I could not save a name of my choice

Re: [Sugar-devel] Docker in Sugar/XO laptop

2015-05-23 Thread Sam P.
Hi, I'm not sure why docker is a requirement for developing web applications. Setting up a docker image requires lots of storage space and lots of download - docker stores a full os to chroot or whatever into. Even with there cool CoW file systems, docker still needs to store a least 1 Linux

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